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PROBABLY EMEA FRANCHISED LEAGUE 2023

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#1
RiveraRBB

The EMEA franchising/partnership league could have these 10 teams:

· KOI
· LIQUID
· FNATIC
· NAVI
· BBL
· KARMINE CORP
· VITALITY
· G2
· HERETICS
· BIG

Source: https://twitter.com/univalorant/status/1553863059302760448
They did this 10 teams list with anonimotum, who leaked the teams that advanced to next round of VALORANT EMEA partnership process (https://twitter.com/anonimotum/status/1553078540656058369)

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number1_MIBR_hater
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Common Riot L

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hiyo
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cringe

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minte
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FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCKKKKKKKKK

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jackb2016
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No offense to KOI and Heretics...but why??? They aren't super big orgs (especially KOI). The other 8 are very good choices however.

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riot so bad fking for only 10 teams

on the bright side all of those orgs are respectable

i would like fpx and guild to stay in the scene even if its tier2, theyve got the best roster management out of any orgs

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jackb2016 [#5]

No offense to KOI and Heretics...but why??? They aren't super big orgs (especially KOI). The other 8 are very good choices however.

heretics is like the 2nd most established spanish org after g2

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where heroic and rogue? they should let them get it, they have money to invest and can bring viewership

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I wish Riot change their minds and make it to 14 or 16 teams. EMEA is huge region but only 10 teams, same with Americas and Asia. In LoL, they have NA League, BR League, and LATAM league, they have EU league , Turkish League, CIS League but in Val, they want to merge all into 2 leagues (EMEA and America) but only 10 teams ?

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no_noise_979 [#7]

heretics is like the 2nd most established spanish org after g2

id say Team Queso is more established, and giants

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jackb2016 [#10]

id say Team Queso is more established, and giants

Queso are only established when it comes to mobile games and they definitely couldn’t afford an LEC slot like Heretics

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jackb2016 [#10]

id say Team Queso is more established, and giants

maybe you are right. i only looked at twitter followers not other things

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jackb2016 [#5]

No offense to KOI and Heretics...but why??? They aren't super big orgs (especially KOI). The other 8 are very good choices however.

KOI or Heretics would’ve made more sense in my opinion, but it is what it is. Heretics have been making moves recently and KOI has a massive audience, so you can see why Riot would want to include them

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Not bad tbh
all of these orgs have the financial conditions to make good teams and be competitive

Sad for fpx tho, the org may go to Asia Franchising

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valulrantefanboy [#9]

I wish Riot change their minds and make it to 14 or 16 teams. EMEA is huge region but only 10 teams, same with Americas and Asia. In LoL, they have NA League, BR League, and LATAM league, they have EU league , Turkish League, CIS League but in Val, they want to merge all into 2 leagues (EMEA and America) but only 10 teams ?

yeah i hope rito increase the number of spots in the next years, even at Americas only 10 teams is too little

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RiveraRBB
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jackb2016 [#5]

No offense to KOI and Heretics...but why??? They aren't super big orgs (especially KOI). The other 8 are very good choices however.

No offense but KOI has the highest viewership of Spain and the highest twitter engagement of Europe (https://twitter.com/KOI/status/1511784855805308935)

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RiveraRBB
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Thiag0_ [#14]

Not bad tbh
all of these orgs have the financial conditions to make good teams and be competitive

Sad for fpx tho, the org may go to Asia Franchising

Yeah, and I agree with your FPX thought

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RiveraRBB [#16]

No offense but KOI has the highest viewership of Spain and the highest twitter engagement of Europe (https://twitter.com/KOI/status/1511784855805308935)

I'm more surprise with Liquid Valorant is there but not Liquid Offical lol

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RiveraRBB
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iMyw_ [#8]

where heroic and rogue? they should let them get it, they have money to invest and can bring viewership

All teams I mentioned have money to invest, but what teams can bring less viewership than Rogue or Heroic?

It's a question because I don't know exactly every fanbases

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RiveraRBB
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valulrantefanboy [#18]

I'm more surprise with Liquid Valorant is there but not Liquid Offical lol

I checked it, the liquid official has less average likes/rts than liquid valorant lol

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RiveraRBB [#19]

All teams I mentioned have money to invest, but what teams can bring less viewership than Rogue or Heroic?

It's a question because I don't know exactly every fanbases

Rouge and Heroic don't have big ''org fanbase'' (like G2, Fnatic, KOI, KC , other tier 1 orgs) and also hasn't invested anything in Val from beginning to establish Val fanbases. So I don't think they have better viewership than any of these orgs

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Its a shame for fpx and guild, but the list looks good overall

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RiveraRBB
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number1_MIBR_hater [#2]

Common Riot L

Bruh why? Most of the teams I mentioned can bring a lot of viewership and will surely make competitive roster

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Regions covered:
Spain - KOI, G2, Heretics
UK / Nordic - Fnatic
Ukraine / Russia / CIS - NaVi
Turkey - BBL
France - KCorp, Vitality
Dach - BIG

Regions missing:
Eastern Europe
MENA

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rito games at its best. i understand the point of franchising, but not givin a slot for a top1 emea team wtf is this list x D

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RiveraRBB
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valulrantefanboy [#21]

Rouge and Heroic don't have big ''org fanbase'' (like G2, Fnatic, KOI, KC , other tier 1 orgs) and also hasn't invested anything in Val from beginning to establish Val fanbases. So I don't think they have better viewership than any of these orgs

Totally agree with you!

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RiveraRBB
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moowari [#22]

Its a shame for fpx and guild, but the list looks good overall

FPX could go to APAC and Guild to regional league, but their players will be picked up by a franchised org so I'm happy about them

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Looks like FPX, Guild, M3C, and Acend are about to be picked apart for players

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I know that EMEA is a good region on valorant, but, it's the most boring league by far. I'm so more hyped for Americas e Asia. This league don't has historycal confronts, or big rivalries

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no_noise_979 [#24]

Regions covered:
Spain - KOI, G2, Heretics
UK / Nordic - Fnatic
Ukraine / Russia / CIS - NaVi
Turkey - BBL
France - KCorp, Vitality
Dach - BIG

Regions missing:
Eastern Europe
MENA

Thanks for this info! I only know exactly Spain and France region (G2 sorry but it's not Spanish, its central office is in Germany)
From what I've heard, the MENA team (Falcons) is on waiting list, but what are the eastern europe principal orgs?

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RiveraRBB
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tyforfreesiteENZO [#25]

rito games at its best. i understand the point of franchising, but not givin a slot for a top1 emea team wtf is this list x D

It just depends on brand and fanbase, and FPX doesn't have a lot of fanbase (u could see it in this last master) like other teams I mentioned, that's why it's not on this list (but who know what Riot does)

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RiveraRBB
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Sprouts [#28]

Looks like FPX, Guild, M3C, and Acend are about to be picked apart for players

For sure! We will see a "BIG ROSTERMANIA" after champions

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trash list

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RiveraRBB [#31]

It just depends on brand and fanbase, and FPX doesn't have a lot of fanbase (u could see it in this last master) like other teams I mentioned, that's why it's not on this list (but who know what Riot does)

i understand how it works. and even if its like this, they have to give some spots to the best teams (maybe 2 best teams overall each region) even if they r not super popular. otherwise its just retarded.

its a competitive scene, not some wrestling show. if some teams were working hard and became the best in game. plus fpx is gonna have more fans after masters obviously. and still not havin a spot in this franchise stuff then wtf is this, what was the point to compete then?

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RiveraRBB
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divisionbell [#29]

I know that EMEA is a good region on valorant, but, it's the most boring league by far. I'm so more hyped for Americas e Asia. This league don't has historycal confronts, or big rivalries

Some examples:
G2 - FNATIC
KOI - KC (probably the biggest rivalry in terms of fanbase)

But bro, we are talking of a lot of teams with big fanbases. Right now there is no org similar to SENTINELS fanbase/hype (for example), but teams like KOI or KC can grow a lot with the international league

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I hope they make at least 12 slots for America

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tyforfreesiteENZO [#25]

rito games at its best. i understand the point of franchising, but not givin a slot for a top1 emea team wtf is this list x D

How many times does this needs to be explained? Rosters doesn’t matter when it comes to franchising. You can have the best roster now and 6 months later the players get poached and leave. Franchising is about the quality of the orgs and what they bring to the table, not the players. The best players will get into the league no matter what. Try and use your brain please.

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RiveraRBB
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tyforfreesiteENZO [#34]

i understand how it works. and even if its like this, they have to give some spots to the best teams (maybe 2 best teams overall each region) even if they r not super popular. otherwise its just retarded.

its a competitive scene, not some wrestling show. if some teams were working hard and became the best in game. plus fpx is gonna have more fans after masters obviously. and still not havin a spot in this franchise stuff then wtf is this, what was the point to compete then?

best teams are players, not orgs

It's pretty simple: if an org is the best in Valorant but it can't make a big fanbase around, that org is not making things good as an org (u can see the perfect example with Acend, poor fanbase after winning worlds)

Yes, more people follow now the winner of master, but do they do that because of the players or the org? I'm pretty sure they are big fans of the roster, and that won't be a problem in franchising because that roster will be picked up by a franchising org, so fans can keep following their fav players

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RiveraRBB
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Victorie [#37]

How many times does this needs to be explained? Rosters doesn’t matter when it comes to franchising. You can have the best roster now and 6 months later the players get poached and leave. Franchising is about the quality of the orgs and what they bring to the table, not the players. The best players will get into the league no matter what. Try and use your brain please.

Thanks for explaining this again, totally agree with you!

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I really hope they don’t pick BIG. Hopefully that football club who applied is Schalke and they get them in.

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VAL_OMEGALUL_RANT [#36]

I hope they make at least 12 slots for America

I hope if they make a league with 12 slots, every 3 leagues has 12 slots too!

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RiveraRBB [#38]

best teams are players, not orgs

It's pretty simple: if an org is the best in Valorant but it can't make a big fanbase around, that org is not making things good as an org (u can see the perfect example with Acend, poor fanbase after winning worlds)

Yes, more people follow now the winner of master, but do they do that because of the players or the org? I'm pretty sure they are big fans of the roster, and that won't be a problem in franchising because that roster will be picked up by a franchising org, so fans can keep following their fav players

well yea i get it now. still its gonna be good if some orgs r gonna buy full rosters, but i doubt that.

ig they just gonna buy out some best players from m3c guild acend fpx and left other players out, and for me its shit. but i understand ur point

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Ripped off mena again

Stop calling it emea riot you pice of shit

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RiveraRBB
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Styling911 [#43]

Ripped off mena again

Stop calling it emea riot you pice of shit

Bro chill, from what I've heard a MENA team (falcons) is on waiting list, so there still is a chance

When the phase 2 orgs of partnership get updated there will be another lists

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BIG ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

-Supernova The King of Valorant

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RiveraRBB
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supernova [#45]

BIG ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

-Supernova The King of Valorant

Yes... I know it's the org with less fanbase of the list, but it's the "biggest" representation of Dach region...

What org would u put instead Supernova?

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RiveraRBB [#46]

Yes... I know it's the org with less fanbase of the list, but it's the "biggest" representation of Dach region...

What org would u put instead Supernova?

SMB, FPX or bring back GAMBIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-Supernova The King of Valorant

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supernova [#47]

SMB, FPX or bring back GAMBIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-Supernova The King of Valorant

In dach region you knucklehead. Navi is better than gambit(in terms of org+politics), bbl is better than smb, and fpx really isn't known in Europe until valorant and even then they couldn't bring big viewerships(as shown by the record-low viewership of masters Copenhagen)

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10 is so little fuck

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Trash

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RiveraRBB [#16]

No offense but KOI has the highest viewership of Spain and the highest twitter engagement of Europe (https://twitter.com/KOI/status/1511784855805308935)

My apologies then. KOI just is only in one other esport. Thank you for telling me now

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RiveraRBB [#30]

Thanks for this info! I only know exactly Spain and France region (G2 sorry but it's not Spanish, its central office is in Germany)
From what I've heard, the MENA team (Falcons) is on waiting list, but what are the eastern europe principal orgs?

there are not any big eastern european orgs so its understandable they didnt include any, but entropiq and illuminar are 2 of the more notable ones i think

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minte [#4]

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCKKKKKKKKK

cant wait to poach koldamenta!

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number1_ScreaM_fan
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hiyo [#3]

cringe

fpx will probably drop roster and move back to china possibly since some of these orgs dont have rosters

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monitar
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big L if its true, 3 world champions couldn't make it, what a joke.

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I heard riot was moving to 12 instead of 10

Acend is already confirmed out

Gambit/m3c roster probably gonna go to a new org

FPX is still in the running so im sure they make it

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RiveraRBB [#23]

Bruh why? Most of the teams I mentioned can bring a lot of viewership and will surely make competitive roster

Job security. Situation would be so clueless for FPX players, Guild players, M3C players.. (just to mention a few)

Yes these orgs have clout, I just really hope there will be a massive rostermania before the 2023 season to ensure competitive integrity instead of prioritizing clout

Also clarification on t2. But I know we’ll get that

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minte [#57]

Job security. Situation would be so clueless for FPX players, Guild players, M3C players.. (just to mention a few)

Yes these orgs have clout, I just really hope there will be a massive rostermania before the 2023 season to ensure competitive integrity instead of prioritizing clout

Also clarification on t2. But I know we’ll get that

Rostermania and player swaps feels unavoidable however you flip it. Many T2 players on T1 rosters will get "filtered" unfortunately. Just hope players will be smart about their contracts and protect themselves from uncertainty.

In the long run, I do believe this is a good move, and I will root for league expansions as more orgs establish themselves in Valorant.

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