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Lack of good coaches in NA

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Aperture

Thats the main reason they lost, has to be, it's not like NA players lack skill, because they have some of the best raw aim. IMO they don't hack coaches who give them original ideas, Take SEN for example, after they dominated at Iceland, many NA teams stole their agent comps and strats, that's an indicator that the NA teams either didn't have a "good" coach who was making strats for them or they were just lazy.

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potter

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crazy_igel_fan
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As a professional shittalker on vlr they should really hire me

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valulrantefanboy
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''some of the best raw aim'' lmao. Aim at high level mean shit :)), everybody can click heads

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Almost nobody has good coaches this is a new game, in CS for example the best coaches were pros themselves and are now retired. Only actual good coach I can think of in all of valorant is sliggy.

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valulrantefanboy [#4]

''some of the best raw aim'' lmao. Aim at high level mean shit :)), everybody can click heads

exactly, that's why I said it's not like their aim is a factor to them being trash rn.

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valulrantefanboy [#4]

''some of the best raw aim'' lmao. Aim at high level mean shit :)), everybody can click heads

You seen zombs? Acend guys other than cned/zeek? Obviously not everybody can...

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Azaqa [#7]

You seen zombs? Acend guys other than cned/zeek? Obviously not everybody can...

zombs :)), I mean proper pro :))

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Azaqa [#5]

Almost nobody has good coaches this is a new game, in CS for example the best coaches were pros themselves and are now retired. Only actual good coach I can think of in all of valorant is sliggy.

TL Sliggy, FNC Anderzz, GMB Enghh was good for Masters Berlin.

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Azaqa [#5]

Almost nobody has good coaches this is a new game, in CS for example the best coaches were pros themselves and are now retired. Only actual good coach I can think of in all of valorant is sliggy.

gambit coach

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Aperture [#9]

TL Sliggy, FNC Anderzz, GMB Enghh was good for Masters Berlin.

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I dont think Ive seen anything unique FNC do, they just have solid gameplay

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Azaqa [#11]

I dont think Ive seen anything unique FNC do, they just have solid gameplay

Their Fracture gameplay is the best in the world rn, taking control of the orbs, their site execute and retakes. Did we watch the same Fnatic??

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Aperture [#9]

TL Sliggy, FNC Anderzz, GMB Enghh was good for Masters Berlin.

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GMB Enghh, FNC Anderzz and KRÜ ONUR THE GREAT.

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Azaqa [#11]

I dont think Ive seen anything unique FNC do, they just have solid gameplay

Having solid fundamentals and teamplay are things that good leadership and coaching leads to...

Pretty contradictory statement from you.

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sundaymondaytuesday
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Aperture my guy

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ShiroNekoX
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Maybe so much copium but if rawkus gonna continue his career as a coach, he will become a good coach and will be at same level as sliggy or maybe better because the only coach that have a experience in tier 1 valorant pro scene is him.

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ShiroNekoX [#16]

Maybe so much copium but if rawkus gonna continue his career as a coach, he will become a good coach and will be at same level as sliggy or maybe better because the only coach that have a experience in tier 1 valorant pro scene is him.

It will be a while till Rawkus gets to the level of Sliggy imo, but yes it would be great to see.

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Aperture
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Having solid fundamentals and teamplay are things that good leadership and coaching leads to...

Pretty contradictory statement from you.

What are you on about thats not what a coach does, a coach helps fix tactical errors, creates tactics. An igl is the one who needs to know the proper timings for things, to read the situation and come up with the response, to improve how well the team play together and to determine what things work for the team and what things dont.

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Azaqa [#7]

You seen zombs? Acend guys other than cned/zeek? Obviously not everybody can...

bonecold had a 45% Headshot percentage against NV on map 2

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Azaqa [#5]

Almost nobody has good coaches this is a new game, in CS for example the best coaches were pros themselves and are now retired. Only actual good coach I can think of in all of valorant is sliggy.

VS have a retired pro as their coach, their former player, glow

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Azaqa [#18]

What are you on about thats not what a coach does, a coach helps fix tactical errors, creates tactics. An igl is the one who needs to know the proper timings for things, to read the situation and come up with the response, to improve how well the team play together and to determine what things work for the team and what things dont.

So i say the coach helps with teamplay and then you type a paragraph about how the coach helps fix teamplay errors and create cohesion between the team and say im wrong?

You do realize that there can be overlap in what the coach and IGL do right? They can both strive towards fixing the same problems at times. They can both work on tactics they can both adjust things so that there is less mistakes.

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Mdkns [#19]

bonecold had a 45% Headshot percentage against NV on map 2

headshot percentage on 1 map=good aim, yep. Map 1 he had 7%. Reminder that both maps he was playing horrible letting zeek/cned carry him and either at the bottom of the scoreboard or close to it.

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So i say the coach helps with teamplay and then you type a paragraph about how the coach helps fix teamplay errors and create cohesion between the team and say im wrong?

You do realize that there can be overlap in what the coach and IGL do right? They can both strive towards fixing the same problems at times. They can both work on tactics they can both adjust things so that there is less mistakes.

tactics=teamplay for you? hahahahaha ok

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Azaqa [#23]

tactics=teamplay for you? hahahahaha ok

Youre braindead man. The IGL and Coach are both working towards the same goal. Having the team play better as a unit and working on better strategies. They both watch demos/vods both of their own team and future opponents and come together to create a winning plan. You just come off as a butthurt argumentative devils advocate loser. Grow up

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Youre braindead man. The IGL and Coach are both working towards the same goal. Having the team play better as a unit and working on better strategies. They both watch demos/vods both of their own team and future opponents and come together to create a winning plan. You just come off as a butthurt argumentative devils advocate loser. Grow up

sure man!

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Azaqa [#25]

sure man!

No proper reply as i thought. Stay mad you know nothing about team structures

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X10 vs NV was basically an aim diff.

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Aperture
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rdmz1 [#27]

X10 vs NV was basically an aim diff.

I agree somewhat as X10 did have some really well planned executes and retakes, but most of the time Envy dealt with it, except for when a player from x10 popped off.

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Aperture
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How do you even judge a coach? I feel like most of their impact is behind closed doors. Even with starts, we don't know who came up with a specific strategy, whether is was the igl or a player. Even with antistrating we don't know their impact. Then when it gets to midrounding, its even harder to see a coaches impact because things become more adaptive.

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SharubuNguvu [#29]

How do you even judge a coach? I feel like most of their impact is behind closed doors. Even with starts, we don't know who came up with a specific strategy, whether is was the igl or a player. Even with antistrating we don't know their impact. Then when it gets to midrounding, its even harder to see a coaches impact because things become more adaptive.

most of the time it's the strategic coach, thats what the role is for, but yes I agree sometimes it may be the igl.

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Aperture
Son of Oil, Father of QueueK and Causer of Arguments

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