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team_liquid_fan

what if 100t, envy, g2 and gambit are just better than sen now? what if sen have already reached their full potential? no team dominates forever, but it looks like you don't accept sentinels losing. this is my just opinion, believe what you want

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ciro
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Watch them mention liquid

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ShadowisBAD
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i wouldnt mind
i know sen will lose eventually
no teams stays on top forever

I respect all teams and players

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Heiro
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Tbh, Sentinels in this tournament didnt really look like themselves.
They had a lot of fundamental mistakes which they don't usually have
their spacing was horrible and couldnt get trades as often where as they used to get trades insantly before.
It mustve been comms issues or maybe they just couldn't focus and felt pressured after the loss agasint g2
but i feel like they will bounce back and do really well in Champions with all the time they have to prepare for it.

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ShadowisBAD
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Heiro [#4]

Tbh, Sentinels in this tournament didnt really look like themselves.
They had a lot of fundamental mistakes which they don't usually have
their spacing was horrible and couldnt get trades as often where as they used to get trades insantly before.
It mustve been comms issues or maybe they just couldn't focus and felt pressured after the loss agasint g2
but i feel like they will bounce back and do really well in Champions with all the time they have to prepare for it.

u are right bro
sen didnt look like themselves
the whole time i was like
is this the same sentinels who was dominating na and won iceland ?

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Hanji
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ShadowisBAD [#5]

u are right bro
sen didnt look like themselves
the whole time i was like
is this the same sentinels who was dominating na and won iceland ?

All good, hopefully they get a coach, it definitely is needed at this point

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yana-banana
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Heiro [#4]

Tbh, Sentinels in this tournament didnt really look like themselves.
They had a lot of fundamental mistakes which they don't usually have
their spacing was horrible and couldnt get trades as often where as they used to get trades insantly before.
It mustve been comms issues or maybe they just couldn't focus and felt pressured after the loss agasint g2
but i feel like they will bounce back and do really well in Champions with all the time they have to prepare for it.

And I think it showed that Shahz should give the jett role fully for TenZ. He both struggled on Icebox and Split, he didn't get so much value out of the agent and also missed a lot of easy op shots. He need to realise he can't do this and be the igl as well...

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Hanji [#6]

All good, hopefully they get a coach, it definitely is needed at this point

shaz said i nthe conferance that they are 100% getting a coach before champs

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ShadowisBAD
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Heiro [#8]

shaz said i nthe conferance that they are 100% getting a coach before champs

wait fr? YAY

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Heiro
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yana-banana [#7]

And I think it showed that Shahz should give the jett role fully for TenZ. He both struggled on Icebox and Split, he didn't get so much value out of the agent and also missed a lot of easy op shots. He need to realise he can't do this and be the igl as well...

I don't agree with this.
Shaz is a fantastic player, he was called by many as the best icebox player out there.
It was just a bad tournament by him, he will bounce back.
His oping consistency is pretty much unmatched.
His playstyle on split was read by most teams,
he tried doing the same "contact push mid and wait for defender to get peak into his crosshair for info" which didnt work becuz everyone anti stratted them like mad and never gave him the space nor the peaks he wanted.
Just unfortunate really

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Heiro
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ShadowisBAD [#9]

wait fr? YAY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-Da91OFego
he said it in this, im too lazy to find the exact time stamp but its a good watch :)
just watch the whole thing

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kickstar
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Yeah they lost. They got outplayed. But I dont get why ppl are making such a big issue out of it. They had to loose one day or the other. They won 3 of NA's regional majors this year, then won Iceland too. And then went out in the quarters of Berlin. Thats some magical stats for any team. Just cz they lost doesnt mean people have to trash them. Winning and losing are part of the game. It was Envys day, they played better, ggs to them.

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Heiro [#10]

I don't agree with this.
Shaz is a fantastic player, he was called by many as the best icebox player out there.
It was just a bad tournament by him, he will bounce back.
His oping consistency is pretty much unmatched.
His playstyle on split was read by most teams,
he tried doing the same "contact push mid and wait for defender to get peak into his crosshair for info" which didnt work becuz everyone anti stratted them like mad and never gave him the space nor the peaks he wanted.
Just unfortunate really

best icebox player??? hes not even the best icebox player NA, Asuna is the best icebox player at least in NA. Sentinals are pretty abysmal on icebox.
i agree with the rest tho.

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Vegito [#13]

best icebox player??? hes not even the best icebox player NA, Asuna is the best icebox player at least in NA. Sentinals are pretty abysmal on icebox.
i agree with the rest tho.

Trust me, before Berlin, shaz was known as the best icebox jett player.

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ShadowisBAD
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Heiro [#14]

Trust me, before Berlin, shaz was known as the best icebox jett player.

they really underperformed in berlin
idk what happened Behind the scenes

also before berlin sen was the best team in the world .. ( AT THAT TIME )

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viper699mw
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Vegito [#13]

best icebox player??? hes not even the best icebox player NA, Asuna is the best icebox player at least in NA. Sentinals are pretty abysmal on icebox.
i agree with the rest tho.

Asuna is a beast on Icebox. Rope buff fr.

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ShadowisBAD
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Yeah they lost. They got outplayed. But I dont get why ppl are making such a big issue out of it. They had to loose one day or the other. They won 3 of NA's regional majors this year, then won Iceland too. And then went out in the quarters of Berlin. Thats some magical stats for any team. Just cz they lost doesnt mean people have to trash them. Winning and losing are part of the game. It was Envys day, they played better, ggs to them.

Finally someone understands
Respect to u my friend

#18
ItsMeDio
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viper699mw [#16]

Asuna is a beast on Icebox. Rope buff fr.

yeah, but using reyna..not jett

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Mkin11
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Yeah they lost. They got outplayed. But I dont get why ppl are making such a big issue out of it. They had to loose one day or the other. They won 3 of NA's regional majors this year, then won Iceland too. And then went out in the quarters of Berlin. Thats some magical stats for any team. Just cz they lost doesnt mean people have to trash them. Winning and losing are part of the game. It was Envys day, they played better, ggs to them.

we are relishing in the tears of sen fans, I mean it is impossible not to after all the mocking to other teams

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smoking that sen pack. all good

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#21
zyk
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Yeah they lost. They got outplayed. But I dont get why ppl are making such a big issue out of it. They had to loose one day or the other. They won 3 of NA's regional majors this year, then won Iceland too. And then went out in the quarters of Berlin. Thats some magical stats for any team. Just cz they lost doesnt mean people have to trash them. Winning and losing are part of the game. It was Envys day, they played better, ggs to them.

its mostly because of the twitter guy, he seems to cocky, never talks about lost games but if they win he makes cocky tweets but only with that I don't have problem but then when you lose don't just disappear, because of him I don't hate the team but I cheer against them and I think I'm not the only one with this

and even some of the players like zombs "better seed secured" its that hard to write GG G2 Esports you guys were better, its that hard?

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deathlyclaws
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ShadowisBAD [#3]

i wouldnt mind
i know sen will lose eventually
no teams stays on top forever

I respect all teams and players

+1 you are a true Sen fan

#23
tRONGOD
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I mean they were literally dominating NA right until the last month so i don't think they just became bad in a month it's just they got a reality check by G2 too late which any NA team weren't able to give them before and just now they realised, all their strats have been countered already, literally the coach diff.

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aotdstix
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yeah seems fine i guess

#25
RickyIndian
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just how the game goes... not every team can be the best forever. tsm is a perfect example

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yana-banana
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Heiro [#10]

I don't agree with this.
Shaz is a fantastic player, he was called by many as the best icebox player out there.
It was just a bad tournament by him, he will bounce back.
His oping consistency is pretty much unmatched.
His playstyle on split was read by most teams,
he tried doing the same "contact push mid and wait for defender to get peak into his crosshair for info" which didnt work becuz everyone anti stratted them like mad and never gave him the space nor the peaks he wanted.
Just unfortunate really

I understand your point and accept it. Yes, he got read hard and the team as well but I remember when they played icebox first against G2 he missed so many op shots and had so many questionable decisions. Ngl he only looked good when he first played against G2 on split. But me honestly would have like it more if they would have played meta comps and not forcing TenZ to play raze. Yes he isn't really flexible but it's a team play, they should have figure out something. Like I like that NV integrated Yay and he is the jett duelist. I know it's a different situation, but if something is not working you need to realize it. That's why they need a coach.

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