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Acend>>>>>>>SEN copium lmfao

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#1
Aris

EU think Acend can beat SEN lmfao

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Itsover
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Gambit destroyed sen and dapr stole nats setups

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cxrsedval
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could go either ways ngl, acend could beat sen

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Acend are like the TSM of EU. They depend on their jett op to carry them and when they run into a team that doesn't give them free picks, they struggle

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only thing bad about acend is if cned is having off game they will lose just like fnatic depend on derke

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Itsover [#2]

Gambit destroyed sen and dapr stole nats setups

scrims.... anything happens in scrims and they dont rlly matter. vikings beat sen in scrims and yeah... they were not close to sen's level in real play

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Pigguman [#5]

only thing bad about acend is if cned is having off game they will lose just like fnatic depend on derke

i mean quite true but doma and mistic can pop off sometimes

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Pigguman [#5]

only thing bad about acend is if cned is having off game they will lose just like fnatic depend on derke

He isn't having an off day imo, Gabmit knows how to actually play around him. Acend is way too one dimensional

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But the cned ace on ascent was nice

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cxrsedval [#7]

i mean quite true but doma and mistic can pop off sometimes

yeah same with zeek and starxo tbh

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WebscaleMongo [#8]

He isn't having an off day imo, Gabmit knows how to actually play around him. Acend is way too one dimensional

first W take of the day

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RRoadRRunneRR
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You know every map SEN played against fnatic was very very close and this Teams you see here ran or would ran over fnatic like they are a bunch of Golds. Gambit, SMB, ACE all can beat SEN imo. We had really 2 bad EU Teams representing EU and this Time the real Deals are showing up there.

You guys talk like only 1 Team is allowed to beat SEN...

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RRoadRRunneRR [#12]

You know every map SEN played against fnatic was very very close and this Teams you see here ran or would ran over fnatic like they are a bunch of Golds. Gambit, SMB, ACE all can beat SEN imo. We had really 2 bad EU Teams representing EU and this Time the real Deals are showing up there.

You guys talk like only 1 Team is allowed to beat SEN...

Copium
sen 100t and envy are all new and improved

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yana-banana
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RRoadRRunneRR [#12]

You know every map SEN played against fnatic was very very close and this Teams you see here ran or would ran over fnatic like they are a bunch of Golds. Gambit, SMB, ACE all can beat SEN imo. We had really 2 bad EU Teams representing EU and this Time the real Deals are showing up there.

You guys talk like only 1 Team is allowed to beat SEN...

There's new meta, new prices, ultimates, agent buffs and nerfs. Everything is constantly changing that's one of the reason why valorant never gets boring.
Also the teams are catching up to the top ones. In EMEA, NA any other region. Which makes the scene more competitive and more enjoyable for us, viewers. :)

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Itsover [#2]

Gambit destroyed sen and dapr stole nats setups

Nrg won against sentinels 40-8 in scrims (according to bang and Asuna) and they have been struggling in vct. Scrims are good for practice only and are not meant to be taken too seriously.

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ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8
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hkim [#15]

Nrg won against sentinels 40-8 in scrims (according to bang and Asuna) and they have been struggling in vct. Scrims are good for practice only and are not meant to be taken too seriously.

well clearly gambit are not only good in scrims anymore, so this doesn't make any sense

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ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8 [#16]

well clearly gambit are not only good in scrims anymore, so this doesn't make any sense

If scrims would matter Sentinels would be the worst team according to Shahz. Losing a scrim means you can see what you have done wrong and what you need to work on individually or as a team.

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cxrsedval [#7]

i mean quite true but doma and mistic can pop off sometimes

yep, mistic can definitely pop off
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pop off that flash in his teammate's face lmao

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ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8
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yana-banana [#17]

If scrims would matter Sentinels would be the worst team according to Shahz. Losing a scrim means you can see what you have done wrong and what you need to work on individually or as a team.

no shit.. i'm just saying what he's postulating literally is disanalogous

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yana-banana [#14]

There's new meta, new prices, ultimates, agent buffs and nerfs. Everything is constantly changing that's one of the reason why valorant never gets boring.
Also the teams are catching up to the top ones. In EMEA, NA any other region. Which makes the scene more competitive and more enjoyable for us, viewers. :)

that might be true but the top teams do stay consistent. SEN has been on the top since almost a year. They have adjusted to all the meta changes etc.
So I don't think it's fair to discredit Gambit's success to meta changes and buffs and nerfs. They are just better than FNATIC, TL and the likes with or without meta changes.

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RRoadRRunneRR [#12]

You know every map SEN played against fnatic was very very close and this Teams you see here ran or would ran over fnatic like they are a bunch of Golds. Gambit, SMB, ACE all can beat SEN imo. We had really 2 bad EU Teams representing EU and this Time the real Deals are showing up there.

You guys talk like only 1 Team is allowed to beat SEN...

The matces (SEN V FNC) were pretty close . But I 'd like to remind you that Fnatic was the best team along with Team Liquid from EU at that moment ..These current EU best teams didn't even qualified for VCT Master Reykjavik . You believe it or not it depends on form of the team....Nobody can deny that Team Liquid was once the best team in EU and where are they now ? Fnatic was also .....Recently the team that is in good form from EU is Acend .Believe me even Fnatic can easily beat Acend if they play like their old forms ...But here we go there is a team that always is in form and that is SEN from NA .....So I believe this recent pro team Acend can never beat SEN even they use their full potential....You can compare recent Acend team to the older Fnatic( in Reykjavik) ....Both are same I guess ....In total Acend is overrated and can beat Sentinels in the dreams of EU fans and Sentinels haters lmao ><>>>>>>>.>>>.

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Sentinels loses to BBG LUL

#23
yana-banana
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anshul [#20]

that might be true but the top teams do stay consistent. SEN has been on the top since almost a year. They have adjusted to all the meta changes etc.
So I don't think it's fair to discredit Gambit's success to meta changes and buffs and nerfs. They are just better than FNATIC, TL and the likes with or without meta changes.

Ohh don't get me wrong I won't take away anything from Gambit they are a top team for sure.
Fnatic kept changing so many things and for TL they have so many holes they need to fill its not even worth to talk about anymore.
I am just saying I like the constant changes that the games provides. Also teams just like you have mentioned are not able to keep up with that.

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kocunar [#22]

Sentinels loses to BBG LUL

Lul that was match of 4 months ago lullllll]

#25
NaHiaN
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Actions will speak louder than words in Berlin ...

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kocunar [#22]

Sentinels loses to BBG LUL

BBG > Fnatic sadly

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i dont get why eu dont use astra on some maps she is extremely strong, if they dont adapt before berlin i dont see them winning

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Pigguman [#11]

first W take of the day

all my takes are W, EU fans are just too blinded by bias to see the truth

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Ascends map pool is there biggest weakness i think ...against a team like sentinel's (there map pool is soo good) they will have a problem

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kocunar [#22]

Sentinels loses to BBG LUL

Fanatic didn't even make it lul

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ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8 [#19]

no shit.. i'm just saying what he's postulating literally is disanalogous

This person's argument was heavily based on scrim results. I'm not saying that they aren't good enough to beat sen, I'm saying that you shouldn't be using scrims as your reasons that gambit will destroy sentinels.

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ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8
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hkim [#31]

This person's argument was heavily based on scrim results. I'm not saying that they aren't good enough to beat sen, I'm saying that you shouldn't be using scrims as your reasons that gambit will destroy sentinels.

I don't think he used it to infer, that gambit will destroy sentinels, just that they have the capacity to do so. In NRG's case we know they can't from officials. There is a difference between an unknown and a known. He is speculating. Scrims can be used as pieces of information to speculate, but they don't override official results.

Yes, scrim results alone are very poor predictors. You have no idea what the intentions behind the teams scrimming are, whether some are testing their limits, learnring new strats, trying to get their protocols down etc.. But still they do communicate something. Especially when multiple teams say, that X team is really good and now they show it in officials too, the potential is there for sure in my opinion.

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ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8 [#32]

I don't think he used it to infer, that gambit will destroy sentinels, just that they have the capacity to do so. In NRG's case we know they can't from officials. There is a difference between an unknown and a known. He is speculating. Scrims can be used as pieces of information to speculate, but they don't override official results.

Yes, scrim results alone are very poor predictors. You have no idea what the intentions behind the teams scrimming are, whether some are testing their limits, learnring new strats, trying to get their protocols down etc.. But still they do communicate something. Especially when multiple teams say, that X team is really good and now they show it in officials too, the potential is there for sure in my opinion.

I think we just ended up interpreting what the original commenter meant differently.

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deathlyclaws [#29]

Ascends map pool is there biggest weakness i think ...against a team like sentinel's (there map pool is soo good) they will have a problem

They are good on all maps except fot ascent i think

#35
mave
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cxrsedval [#34]

They are good on all maps except fot ascent i think

nah their ascent was pretty good in the past they just struggle a bit on it at the moment, but acends split was always really bad

#36
Itsover
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hkim [#33]

I think we just ended up interpreting what the original commenter meant differently.

I meant that losing to gambit does not mean that the team that lost cant win vs sen, gambit are scary af.

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