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NRG chemistry issue?

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#1
extan

listening to their comms in the Furia game they honestly seem to be talking over each other more than other top teams do and just generally doesn’t seem as cohesive as Loud, Sen, Fnatic, etc

against Furia and C9 with their shallow playbooks the chaotic comms may not be as big of an issue but against better drilled teams with layered utility we might see this become a major problem

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KAPPA

If you listen to other team’s comms you would know they are far cleaner

Their comms are chill, clean, and concise

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u do know that even while they talk over each other very rarely was anyone yelling and it was very calm and direct. its literally wat u want from comms

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moshimoshiman24 [#3]

u do know that even while they talk over each other very rarely was anyone yelling and it was very calm and direct. its literally wat u want from comms

Championship comms from a championship team

Don’t know what this guy is waffling about

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Asuna_Yuuki [#2]

KAPPA

If you listen to other team’s comms you would know they are far cleaner

Their comms are chill, clean, and concise

sure maybe compared to 100T or some shit

listening to Sen comms in particular they clear by far

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Asuna_Yuuki [#4]

Championship comms from a championship team

Don’t know what this guy is waffling about

no real IGL = messed up Comms

you lose FNS you lose structure

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u can take your time lying to no one if u want but the match is only 3 days away bro, just wait if u really wanna see NRG fail

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extan [#5]

sure maybe compared to 100T or some shit

listening to Sen comms in particular they clear by far

yea but people cant accept that their daddies the optic core can be bad and might have fallen off without FNS at the helm IGLing, I mean look at yay, no one other than FNS has ever used his skills that efficiently even on ABX right before he moved to NV he wasnt that good

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ItsHunter [#8]

yea but people cant accept that their daddies the optic core can be bad and might have fallen off without FNS at the helm IGLing, I mean look at yay, no one other than FNS has ever used his skills that efficiently even on ABX right before he moved to NV he wasnt that good

????? He was already that good an ABX wdym?

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Karmine_Org_WhispeR [#9]

????? He was already that good an ABX wdym?

oh he was so good to the point he was called the greatest player in the world? He was getting constant 1v3 and 1v4 clutches? Damn maybe i just have bad memory cause I dont think he did ANY of that on ABX
fuck ABX couldnt even qualify for the circuit bruh tf psychedelics you on

#11
sussybaka
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stop making things up

#12
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extan [#6]

no real IGL = messed up Comms

you lose FNS you lose structure

tbf tho it didnt sound hectic at all if anything SEN comms are far more hectic and theyre such a cohesive team. IDK man I think you just aint cookin with this one

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cartixuzi [#7]

u can take your time lying to no one if u want but the match is only 3 days away bro, just wait if u really wanna see NRG fail

thats fr what im sayin x_x so many NRG glazers so many SEN doomers, JUST WAIT FOR THE MATCH. People were saying we would lose to Lev too before any of this tournament started. Everyone said Loud would be washed, everyone said C9 would be crazy good and 100T would shit the bed but literally every since one of those claims are pure falseties and have all been proven wrong.

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These comms aren't bad just all over the place but if everyone's on the same place should be good, SEN and NRG have 2 styles SEN more calm and NRG more chaotic but very informative.

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ItsHunter [#13]

thats fr what im sayin x_x so many NRG glazers so many SEN doomers, JUST WAIT FOR THE MATCH. People were saying we would lose to Lev too before any of this tournament started. Everyone said Loud would be washed, everyone said C9 would be crazy good and 100T would shit the bed but literally every since one of those claims are pure falseties and have all been proven wrong.

Who said c9 would be crazy good? 💀

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Every single day there's always going to be one NRG doubter making delusional takes on vlr. I swear if they win the Madrid people will say it's rigged or a Mickymouse tournament because (their favorite team) didn't get qualified. Smh

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envyz [#14]

These comms aren't bad just all over the place but if everyone's on the same place should be good, SEN and NRG have 2 styles SEN more calm and NRG more chaotic but very informative.

what are yall talking about x_x NRG comms are literally fine and they sound just like they did on Optic. SEN is way more chaotic than NRG and we can see the ridiculous chemistry SEN have with each other so clearly this is a 0 point that doesnt prove anything

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0fcuZ [#16]

Every single day there's always going to be one NRG doubter making delusional takes on vlr. I swear if they win the Madrid people will say it's rigged or a Mickymouse tournament because (their favorite team) didn't get qualified. Smh

NRG arent winning Madrid little bro x_x
Its happening for both sides my guy, at the very least SEN has already shown that theyre a world class team. Weve seen NOTHING out of NRG and yall are already glazing them like they already won 3 tournaments back to back and that SEN have 0 chance at winning. Just wait for the match bro

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ItsHunter [#17]

what are yall talking about x_x NRG comms are literally fine and they sound just like they did on Optic. SEN is way more chaotic than NRG and we can see the ridiculous chemistry SEN have with each other so clearly this is a 0 point that doesnt prove anything

what? NRG's comms are literally 3 people talking over each other constantly SEN's comms arent like this, Zellsis John and Zekken are the main voices never watching their latest video did i hear them speaking over eachother during matches like NRG did, SEN have more playful comms during pauses.

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ItsHunter [#18]

NRG arent winning Madrid little bro x_x
Its happening for both sides my guy, at the very least SEN has already shown that theyre a world class team. Weve seen NOTHING out of NRG and yall are already glazing them like they already won 3 tournaments back to back and that SEN have 0 chance at winning. Just wait for the match bro

What have we seen out of SEN?

They are extremely shaky and have been getting stomped at least 1 map per series with the exception of MIBR

Way too many holes in their game NRG clears

My Kings at NRG would not lose to G2 and drop maps to teams like 100t

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ItsHunter [#18]

NRG arent winning Madrid little bro x_x
Its happening for both sides my guy, at the very least SEN has already shown that theyre a world class team. Weve seen NOTHING out of NRG and yall are already glazing them like they already won 3 tournaments back to back and that SEN have 0 chance at winning. Just wait for the match bro

So we will just going to pretend like NRG players are from tier 2 huh? They are literally a super team like Fnatic last year. Sure it's only been two games that they have played and yes some maps got really closed but this team will get better and better the more times they get, I PROMISE you on that. They are literally built to win with many different kind of coaches that you may or may not heard. It's insane to me, that people can't at least acknowledge this facts plus even more disappointing to see most of the other na fellows doubting/hating on this team.

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envyz [#19]

what? NRG's comms are literally 3 people talking over each other constantly SEN's comms arent like this, Zellsis John and Zekken are the main voices never watching their latest video did i hear them speaking over eachother during matches like NRG did, SEN have more playful comms during pauses.

We clearly aint watching the same videos cause im playing these 2 back to back and SEN have way more hectic comms and yes they are talking over each other constantly.
NRG are way calmer more clean and when it gets hectic its only 2 or MAX 3 people screaming something in the comms. Again weve seen that sen is crazy cohesive so idk why this is even a point of discussion. Its a false claim by the OP and clearly doesnt matter.
Idc what the comms are during pauses either, that isnt the conversation.

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Boy, looking at last year's EG and comparing it to this year's NRG, I don't know, this team lacks "glue", they seem very vulnerable, especially noticeable in the Furia and C9 game, it seems like they make very silly mistakes, visibly due to the lack of an official IGL

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0fcuZ [#21]

So we will just going to pretend like NRG players are from tier 2 huh? They are literally a super team like Fnatic last year. Sure it's only been two games that they have played and yes some maps got really closed but this team will get better and better the more times they get, I PROMISE you on that. They are literally built to win with many different kind of coaches that you may or may not heard. It's insane to me, that people can't at least acknowledge this facts plus even more disappointing to see most of the other na fellows doubting/hating on this team.

its not even comparable to fnc bro, fnc had and still have the best in role players in VALORANT HISTORY apart from boaster. NRG does not other than Demon1 and maybe you could argue ethan. Crashies isnt equal to ethan, leo, caua, and other top initiators. Vic isnt even a sentinel main but in both the flex and sentinel role he isnt competing against people like shao, suygetsu, chronicle, alfa, forsaken, or less. marved hasnt reached the best controller ever since iceland tho i will say hes still definitely really good and close to being one of the best still.

Im not saying theyre garbage but again theyve been together for 1 month and they just arent the superteam people are claiming that they are. If NRG are a superteam SEN current Loud PRX Navi and many other teams would also count as superteams and honestly the only real superteam thats ever been made in this game is FNC and PRX with Jingg

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Ic4rusYam2 [#23]

Boy, looking at last year's EG and comparing it to this year's NRG, I don't know, this team lacks "glue", they seem very vulnerable, especially noticeable in the Furia and C9 game, it seems like they make very silly mistakes, visibly due to the lack of an official IGL

What silly mistakes do they make?

Apart from that one ascent round

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Asuna_Yuuki [#20]

What have we seen out of SEN?

They are extremely shaky and have been getting stomped at least 1 map per series with the exception of MIBR

Way too many holes in their game NRG clears

My Kings at NRG would not lose to G2 and drop maps to teams like 100t

Did you even watch the loss against G2? Sen steamrolled G2 on Sunset and already qualified and didnt need to try anymore. 100T is also a really good team so idk why youre making it seem like theyre trash, hell 100T could probably beat NRG too especially if the Map vetos were in their favour.

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Asuna_Yuuki [#25]

What silly mistakes do they make?

Apart from that one ascent round

"what silly mistakes do they make, apart from the silly mistakes they make?"

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Asuna_Yuuki [#25]

What silly mistakes do they make?

Apart from that one ascent round

fr they dont really make any mistakes and play well off each other. If anything only u can criticize is that sometimes their attack side is sus when they r just running around the map like headless donkeys.

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ItsHunter [#24]

its not even comparable to fnc bro, fnc had and still have the best in role players in VALORANT HISTORY apart from boaster. NRG does not other than Demon1 and maybe you could argue ethan. Crashies isnt equal to ethan, leo, caua, and other top initiators. Vic isnt even a sentinel main but in both the flex and sentinel role he isnt competing against people like shao, suygetsu, chronicle, alfa, forsaken, or less. marved hasnt reached the best controller ever since iceland tho i will say hes still definitely really good and close to being one of the best still.

Im not saying theyre garbage but again theyve been together for 1 month and they just arent the superteam people are claiming that they are. If NRG are a superteam SEN current Loud PRX Navi and many other teams would also count as superteams and honestly the only real superteam thats ever been made in this game is FNC and PRX with Jingg

Right a team with 0 international trophy is somehow a super team but somehow a team with 5 international champions along literally last year champ MVP is not... You're more than delusional bud ICANT.

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Ok so lets just start, I disagree. But the thing I don't understand is, (No disrespect to U the OP) but FNS watched the comms video on stream and he said in his words "this is what i expected... im not surprised". Basically he was saying their comms are so good and he was alrr expecting this. He also said "Uhhh the comms are too good". But now you're saying that their comms are kinda hectic and talking over each other. No disrespect to you but FNS has played with 3/5 of those guys on that team. He was a pro for awhile as we all no. I watched it myself and to me it didnt sound bad/all over the place. If i'm just a random person i'm probably going to go with the person who has played at the T1 level for like 2-3 years AND has played with half of that team. If he says they are good comms they prob are. And i watched it before i saw FNS's reaction and i alr was thinking the comms were really good.

What makes u say the comms were bad? I geniunely just don't get it. like yeh at times it may have seemed like they got "hectic" but if u pay close attention, one guy would say a com and the other guy would say it in the next half a sec. They are not overcomming or anything of the sort. They just say a com and the other guy happen to say it aswell, and when that com gets communicated, they move on to the next most important information.
Idk where u got chaotic from but that just my POV.

#31
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I wouldnt read into this, I remember a post about louds comms last year and it was everyone talking over each other as well. We know that they did not have chemistry issues and performed very well last year

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PoloSway [#30]

Ok so lets just start, I disagree. But the thing I don't understand is, (No disrespect to U the OP) but FNS watched the comms video on stream and he said in his words "this is what i expected... im not surprised". Basically he was saying their comms are so good and he was alrr expecting this. He also said "Uhhh the comms are too good". But now you're saying that their comms are kinda hectic and talking over each other. No disrespect to you but FNS has played with 3/5 of those guys on that team. He was a pro for awhile as we all no. I watched it myself and to me it didnt sound bad/all over the place. If i'm just a random person i'm probably going to go with the person who has played at the T1 level for like 2-3 years AND has played with half of that team. If he says they are good comms they prob are. And i watched it before i saw FNS's reaction and i alr was thinking the comms were really good.

What makes u say the comms were bad? I geniunely just don't get it. like yeh at times it may have seemed like they got "hectic" but if u pay close attention, one guy would say a com and the other guy would say it in the next half a sec. They are not overcomming or anything of the sort. They just say a com and the other guy happen to say it aswell, and when that com gets communicated, they move on to the next most important information.
Idk where u got chaotic from but that just my POV.

Well written.

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0fcuZ [#29]

Right a team with 0 international trophy is somehow a super team but somehow a team with 5 international champions along literally last year champ MVP is not... You're more than delusional bud ICANT.

let me put back the acend roster so we can say theyre a super team since they all won a champions

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ItsHunter
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PoloSway [#30]

Ok so lets just start, I disagree. But the thing I don't understand is, (No disrespect to U the OP) but FNS watched the comms video on stream and he said in his words "this is what i expected... im not surprised". Basically he was saying their comms are so good and he was alrr expecting this. He also said "Uhhh the comms are too good". But now you're saying that their comms are kinda hectic and talking over each other. No disrespect to you but FNS has played with 3/5 of those guys on that team. He was a pro for awhile as we all no. I watched it myself and to me it didnt sound bad/all over the place. If i'm just a random person i'm probably going to go with the person who has played at the T1 level for like 2-3 years AND has played with half of that team. If he says they are good comms they prob are. And i watched it before i saw FNS's reaction and i alr was thinking the comms were really good.

What makes u say the comms were bad? I geniunely just don't get it. like yeh at times it may have seemed like they got "hectic" but if u pay close attention, one guy would say a com and the other guy would say it in the next half a sec. They are not overcomming or anything of the sort. They just say a com and the other guy happen to say it aswell, and when that com gets communicated, they move on to the next most important information.
Idk where u got chaotic from but that just my POV.

yea the dude seems to just be looking for any flaw whatsoever cause he even compares it to sen comms which id say are crazy hectic and yet is claiming that it isnt at all.

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dead org with a dead coach.
only NA team to lose to china. lol dude

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