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EMEA 4th slot

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#1
Simp4S0m

This is just so sad. Everyone knows Americas deserves way better. Hell I’d rather see 4th pacific team than emea. Pacific has better teams too imo like GenG, Team Secret and Zeta. I think they will be more entertaining to watch than any of the emea teams

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hekzy
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Did Tokyo end already?

#3
TipTop
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I bet you all I have Giants clear zeta geng and secret togehter

#4
capital_d_colon
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Brother every vct region gets 4 slots at champs

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Simp4S0m
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TipTop [#3]

I bet you all I have Giants clear zeta geng and secret togehter

Flag and flair = biased kkkkk

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TipTop [#3]

I bet you all I have Giants clear zeta geng and secret togehter

Giants: https://www.vlr.gg/184051/giants-gaming-vs-team-heretics-champions-tour-2023-emea-league-w6

#7
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Just fucking win for fuck sake
Quit crying

Everytime NA is put in a little disadvantage you cry about it the whole time and use it as an excuse
But at the same time demand that EMEA gets put in a huge disadvantage

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hekzy [#2]

Did Tokyo end already?

we all know this is gonna be FNC. I don't think anyone can take a bo5 from them
which is sad, nobody wants one more EMEA slot

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Simp4S0m
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capital_d_colon [#4]

Brother every vct region gets 4 slots at champs

I meant 5th

#10
EWW_EU_EWHO
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personally i watch Americas collegiate tournaments than EMEA region 1. Thats how bad it is

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Cat4clysma [#8]

we all know this is gonna be FNC. I don't think anyone can take a bo5 from them
which is sad, nobody wants one more EMEA slot

i do

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mrGoudas
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Pacific has better teams 💀 ☠️ 💀 ☠️ 💀 ☠️ 💀 ☠️ 💀 ☠️ 💀 ☠️ 💀 ☠️

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TipTop [#12]

https://www.vlr.gg/167349/detonation-focusme-vs-giants-gaming-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-alpha-ro16

LMAO FLEXING A WIN VS A 0-9 TEAM
I mean, the worst franchised team 💀💀💀

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Cat4clysma [#8]

we all know this is gonna be FNC. I don't think anyone can take a bo5 from them
which is sad, nobody wants one more EMEA slot

I honestly want the 5th slot

Americas fans are crying bitches so an extra slot for them would be a waste

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yuzukaze [#7]

Just fucking win for fuck sake
Quit crying

Everytime NA is put in a little disadvantage you cry about it the whole time and use it as an excuse
But at the same time demand that EMEA gets put in a huge disadvantage

Well Fnatic will win it and they are the best in the world, no denying that. Be honest tho, even you would rather see 5 Americas team than 5 emea teams kkkkkkk

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6vine
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Try winning maybe?

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Simp4S0m [#16]

Well Fnatic will win it and they are the best in the world, no denying that. Be honest tho, even you would rather see 5 Americas team than 5 emea teams kkkkkkk

Nah I don't care about Americas teams at all
There could be the biggest roster changes in the entire Valorant history and I wouldn't even notice

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Simp4S0m [#16]

Well Fnatic will win it and they are the best in the world, no denying that. Be honest tho, even you would rather see 5 Americas team than 5 emea teams kkkkkkk

Not everybody wants to see the goofy ahh clout orgs bro

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yuzukaze [#15]

I honestly want the 5th slot

Americas fans are crying bitches so an extra slot for them would be a waste

nah, you're wrong. Americas have better teams overall. Just because EMEA top 1 is better than all Americas, doesn't mean that one more slot for EMEA makes the game more enjoyable to watch.
For as much as you want to bait or whatever, you know that Americas seed 1~5 are way better than EMEA 2~5. You may deny it, but we know that you know

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FoechiGG [#19]

Not everybody wants to see the goofy ahh clout orgs bro

Meanwhile you’d be watching Americas LCQ instead of emea LCQ kekw

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Simp4S0m [#21]

Meanwhile you’d be watching Americas LCQ instead of emea LCQ kekw

Not really. It's pointless. C9's winning it

#23
FoechiGG
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Simp4S0m [#21]

Meanwhile you’d be watching Americas LCQ instead of emea LCQ kekw

Im watching both as far as i can because i dont hate on entire regions

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Cat4clysma [#20]

nah, you're wrong. Americas have better teams overall. Just because EMEA top 1 is better than all Americas, doesn't mean that one more slot for EMEA makes the game more enjoyable to watch.
For as much as you want to bait or whatever, you know that Americas seed 1~5 are way better than EMEA 2~5. You may deny it, but we know that you know

i'll come back with an answer in two days

#25
FoechiGG
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Cat4clysma [#20]

nah, you're wrong. Americas have better teams overall. Just because EMEA top 1 is better than all Americas, doesn't mean that one more slot for EMEA makes the game more enjoyable to watch.
For as much as you want to bait or whatever, you know that Americas seed 1~5 are way better than EMEA 2~5. You may deny it, but we know that you know

Alright hear me out. When comparing the regions right now, nobody bothers taking FNATIC into consideration because they seem to be clearly above every other team. But when you take one regions top team out of consideration you have to do so with the other region as well. So i wont get into EGs performance and lets take a look at what we are left with. There is Loud that got send out even quicker than NaVi and FUT and there is NRG, who made it pretty far tbh. But they still dropped maps vs EMEA and pacific teams and they even needed an absolute throw from liquid to take the match. Im not saying they dont deserve their spot but there was no big gap between them and the teams they beat. So this whole Americas is so much better thing is straight up copium for now at least.

#26
lilcheese
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Americas dead region, 0 good teams🥱

#27
Simp4S0m
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FoechiGG [#23]

Im watching both as far as i can because i dont hate on entire regions

If 1 emea team that’s not Liquid or Fnatic make it out of groups in champs maybe I’ll admit I’m wrong kkkkkk

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Cat4clysma
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FoechiGG [#25]

Alright hear me out. When comparing the regions right now, nobody bothers taking FNATIC into consideration because they seem to be clearly above every other team. But when you take one regions top team out of consideration you have to do so with the other region as well. So i wont get into EGs performance and lets take a look at what we are left with. There is Loud that got send out even quicker than NaVi and FUT and there is NRG, who made it pretty far tbh. But they still dropped maps vs EMEA and pacific teams and they even needed an absolute throw from liquid to take the match. Im not saying they dont deserve their spot but there was no big gap between them and the teams they beat. So this whole Americas is so much better thing is straight up copium for now at least.

Mmmmmm fair point but I still disagree.

We're not taking FNC out and comparing to the others just because it's convenient. We do so, because FNC is clearly too much better, not only better than EMEA, but better than every team in every region.
And we're not taking the others top1 bc the other leagues top1 are closer to top 2, 3 etc.
I understand that TL beating FNC on EMEA grandfinals is a strong argument against the "EMEA is a 1 team region" narrative, but the narrative doesn't come from FNC being better alone. It comes from how each franchise happened in parallel.

VCT Americas was much more twisted and crazy (which doesn't make VCT EMEA not crazy, I'm just saying Americas was more).
So, what I'm trying to point out here is that Americas is much more homogeneous, while EMEA looks waaaaaaaaaaaay more heterogeneous. And this homogeneity in Americas makes it look like there's a blurry cloud of Americas teams in a position that seems to be slightly better than EMEA's heterogeneous teams.

It is as if it were like

  1. FNATIC
  2. blurry cloud of 4~5 Americas teams + TL
  3. all the rest of EMEA
#29
waterfall3444
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Halleluhwah [#11]

i do

really difficult considering fnatic gets 2 map bans

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