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#23
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then what exactly is real community according to you?

#24
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cs is unique in terms of esports because its mainstream but still has a really long history,it was established by the community and kept alive by it trough out all these years despite valve not giving a fuck about it,you cant replicate a community like cs anymore,the history and passion for the game just runs way deeper than any other mainstream game

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You never really explain what makes cs community better than league or any other esport other than."its old and mainstream".
cs wasn't remotely main stream before csgo came out the viewership numbers were tiny.
the only thing I agree with are fans being passionate and the game having a lot of history largely due to being old.
val isn't like that due to

  1. the game's esport scene is literally like 3 years old
  2. most val players are playing an fps for the first time and are watching esports for the first time as well.
    3.the fan base is a lot more casual for the above reasons but within the next 5 years the games fan base will be leagues better than today
#31
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cs fans are more passionate than val fans will ever,cs scene has a extremely deep history for a esports that no other esports matches,that is the difference, and that makes the fans and players way more passionate about the game and its history aswell,valorant is just another popular game like ow,you see how that game died just because the devs didn't care

#33
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cs having a deep history has no fucking correlation on whether val will have a passionate fanbase or not.
infact val already has fans that are just as passionate as cs except the numbers are very small in comparison as the scene is new and the players are still very casual in comparison to cs.all it needs is time and nothing else.
league had very casual fans at the start as well just like val and today has one of the most passionate fanbases of any esport

#34
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are you dense lol,lets compare this with sports clubs because the same thing kinda applies there too, would you say in football psg or man city have a better or more passionate fanbase than man united or arsenal for example despite man city and psg being more mainstream,exactly,you cant buy or manufacture real history and fans,and cs has history that no other game can match no matter how many years it lives from now,and that history and passion for the game itself is what makes the fanbase/community more real and passionate

#37
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lol you seem like you have brain damage and like to live in the past.man city and arsenal have history because they were good teams that are also really fucking old. cs has that history as it was one of the very first fps games that was actually good.val is a new type of fps with a new playerbase like league was compared to dota. given enough time 5 to 10 years the scene will create its own home grown talent and fanbase assuming that riot manages it well. which they do have a history of doing

#38
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exactly and thats why cs fans are way better lol,what are you even talking about,league community is trash af despite being old and popular,like i said popularity doesnt have anything to do with how good the fans are,also val vs cs playerbase is nothing like league vs dota lmfaoo,riot doesnt even keep it public so how do you know the playerbase,the way cs's history is is the reason the fans are so passionate you cant replicate it,unless you go back to 1999 and make valorant back then

#39
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"league community is trash af" lmao arguing with you is a waste of time blud is trying to pass his opinion as some sort of fact most league fans can say the same about cs and dota XD like I said a game being old and having history doesn't mean another game can't have its and create its own history and passionate fan base. anyone who says other wise is retarded

#40
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never said anything like that so i guess im completely fine,but valorant will never match was cs has because of that history,ofcourse games can have passionate and real fans but i said cs is simply unmatchable in that because its so old and iconic

#35
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bruh also comparing val and overwatch is crazy lmaooo.the player base of overwatch is far far more casual than val which is why it was so mainstream as well.also the esports scene didn't die cuz devs stopped caring??? what are you on
they actively fucked up the entire game and scene and lost all players and viewership due to it

cs would literally die in 2 weeks if valve even remotely change the base mechanics slightly lol

#36
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cs already changed the mechanics slightly and even a lot muliple times and they change a bit again with cs2 lmao,and ur just straight up objectively wrong again,when cs source was released a lot of people didnt like it back then but instead of quitting the game they just played 1.6 still,and at the start of GO the game and mechanics were garbage and people still played trough that,also val target audience isnt really far away from ow theres no way ur saying val community is "way more passionate" lol

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