sova + kj vs fade + cypher

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very interesting match up.
kj ult has high value
the sova pick is good for countering the kj ult.

what do you guys think is better?
kj + sova imo
might be map dependent though

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kj + sova is better but suygetsu is the one playing cypher so i'll give it a pass

#3

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FADE >
she's just better

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The more sova is played to counter kj, the more cypher will be played. but when more cypher is played fade gets better with the prowler for the trips, and when fade gets picked more kj will be picked more as she cant ult the lockdown, but this makes sova again viable. I imagine it will become a never ending cycle.

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I like the rock paper scissors idea here.
but navi wouldve known that lev would play kj here.
maybe they argue that fade provides a higher value on the offense (which many team struggle with on ascent)

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I think it has to do with how familiar you are with shooting the darts/eyes. If you are used to (on ascent) look at sova dart spots to shoot, you might be caught off guard when the other team is using fade. I'd say the same goes for cypher, the less familiar people are with the trips and cam the more effective they will be. NaVi have done this often, they pick slight off-meta agents to challenge teams with agents they have never seen before. (cypher on icebox). and they are quite succesfull with these offmeta picks because teams are all of a sudden faced with maybe slightly suboptimal strats that they have never seen before and dont know how to react

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I think it goes back to each team's strat but I'm a fan of kj + sova in the team.