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does global esport deserve to be a franchise?

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Tayo

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dongrumble
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Tbh No

Edit - I'm talking about as an org... not the team

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mayo

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wizardbot
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Its org who are getting franchised not teams. If you want to talk about deserving fpx and optic should be in

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JiangLi
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probably yes because of India fanbase

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Olofboost
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No
An organization which never changes its roster for better players, keeps 30 yo washed boomers who must've retired long time ago, doesn't belong in franchise

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Ullyr
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No honestly

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based on VCT 2022 result i said NO

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rival
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Only if could understand what franchising actually means

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SuzyVLR [#8]

based on VCT 2022 result i said NO

You know franchising is about orgs and not the roster right?

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dongrumble [#2]

Tbh No

Edit - I'm talking about as an org... not the team

Why? They're rich and already have infrastructure . Also have the support of Indians which have high viewership

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Only if could understand what franchising actually means

Exactly, riot wants to do it to make sure about the viewers and all, not about how much deserving a team is, this is the sad reality

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SuzyVLR [#8]

based on VCT 2022 result i said NO

Okay so may i know why GenG and T1 made into franchising and Optic and fpx didn't?

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wizardbot [#11]

Why? They're rich and already have infrastructure . Also have the support of Indians which have high viewership

Being rich is different than being profitable plus crypto shit + not established like other orgs in franchise(other games brand deals etc)

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Disappointing so many fans when they had750k views in yt for apac qualifiers ge vs vlt , it would be another csgo where India is ignored besides they are bringing Indian Agent too

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wizardbot [#11]

Why? They're rich and already have infrastructure . Also have the support of Indians which have high viewership

Only thing going for them is the viewership they'll bring in....
I just hope it doesn't fall if GE goes with a not fully SA roster

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dongrumble [#2]

Tbh No

Edit - I'm talking about as an org... not the team

BOYCOTT THIS GUYS, HATERS INDIA

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No

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dongrumble [#14]

Being rich is different than being profitable plus crypto shit + not established like other orgs in franchise(other games brand deals etc)

Crypto is the pet project of their owner it has nothing to with their org lol. They don't have any crypto sponsers. They have brand deals what are you on about? You aren't Indian and it seems like all you know about them is reading stupid bits from vlr which are untrue. Also they're established in the esports that matter in India, how would they be established in esprts like lol or cs if it doesnt even have any scene here. They also have had teams in every t1 esports before when they were relevant here, had a korean roster for owl and fortnite iirc

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no- but they are putting in the efforts and their participation in this is crucial for the region itself since so much effort has been put into this game from them and without chances they will just break apart- rito will only not give a slot to GE or to any other team of SA if they simply don't care about the existence of minor regions like ours. This franchise system is damaging and forcing minor rosters to shut down due to them not being selected for this and I think that at least handful of teams of each region/subregion should have a chance

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Nahboo [#17]

BOYCOTT THIS GUYS, HATERS INDIA

Stfu. Why are you obsessed with Indians lol

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dongrumble
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wizardbot [#19]

Crypto is the pet project of their owner it has nothing to with their org lol. They don't have any crypto sponsers. They have brand deals what are you on about? You aren't Indian and it seems like all you know about them is reading stupid bits from vlr which are untrue. Also they're established in the esports that matter in India, how would they be established in esprts like lol or cs if it doesnt even have any scene here. They also have had teams in every t1 esports before when they were relevant here, had a korean roster for owl and fortnite iirc

good brand deals not rooter or some shit

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wizardbot [#19]

Crypto is the pet project of their owner it has nothing to with their org lol. They don't have any crypto sponsers. They have brand deals what are you on about? You aren't Indian and it seems like all you know about them is reading stupid bits from vlr which are untrue. Also they're established in the esports that matter in India, how would they be established in esprts like lol or cs if it doesnt even have any scene here. They also have had teams in every t1 esports before when they were relevant here, had a korean roster for owl and fortnite iirc

What other esport was GE t1 in?

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dongrumble [#23]

What other esport was GE t1 in?

Cs, dota 2

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wizardbot [#24]

Cs, dota 2

GE in cs was t1????? Lmfao

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dongrumble [#22]

good brand deals not rooter or some shit

And why is rooter a bad deal? They also have other sponsors but im curious whats your basis on calling them shit lmfao. They are putting a lot of money in India, how is their streaming service being shit make them bad sponsors?

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dongrumble [#25]

GE in cs was t1????? Lmfao

I said they had teams in t1 esports, not that their teams were t1. Read again

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wizardbot [#26]

And why is rooter a bad deal? They also have other sponsors but im curious whats your basis on calling them shit lmfao. They are putting a lot of money in India, how is their streaming service being shit make them bad sponsors?

brand has a value that it comes with.... it's a fucking brand
Just pouring in money won't make it a good brand deal

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wizardbot [#27]

I said they had teams in t1 esports, not that their teams were t1. Read again

By that logic every other sea org deserves the slot more than ge

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dongrumble [#28]

brand has a value that it comes with.... it's a fucking brand
Just pouring in money won't make it a good brand deal

Then ftx is a shit deal for tsm evwn though it gave them 210M fucking dollars and was lauded as landmark deal in esports

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dongrumble [#29]

By that logic every other sea org deserves the slot more than ge

none of them are from a region with highest viewership and no slots? they also don't have any infrastructure in kr. you have 0 clue about what youre talking about from the start, im just gonna stop responding

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dongrumble [#29]

By that logic every other sea org deserves the slot more than ge

brother go make your case to riot. they are the one's deciding it.

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dongrumble [#29]

By that logic every other sea org deserves the slot more than ge

but thy r not from india

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wizardbot [#31]

none of them are from a region with highest viewership and no slots? they also don't have any infrastructure in kr. you have 0 clue about what youre talking about from the start, im just gonna stop responding

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All g man, I'll be happy if ge makes it tho
It will help esports in india

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dongrumble [#16]

Only thing going for them is the viewership they'll bring in....
I just hope it doesn't fall if GE goes with a not fully SA roster

Also have bootcamp in Korea

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wizardbot [#31]

none of them are from a region with highest viewership and no slots? they also don't have any infrastructure in kr. you have 0 clue about what youre talking about from the start, im just gonna stop responding

bro stop wasting your time man we good if they get slot. Dont waste yo time explainig shit to some vlr user

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bruddah [#32]

brother go make your case to riot. they are the one's deciding it.

I'm not saying that don't give it to GE

SA needs a slot

But on the other hand it's not that good of an org... but it's probably the only good enough from SA so nbd

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wizardbot [#30]

Then ftx is a shit deal for tsm evwn though it gave them 210M fucking dollars and was lauded as landmark deal in esports

Did rooter give them 210m ?

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Zeon_pd [#35]

Also have bootcamp in Korea

All teams probably will have to get a makeshift bootcamp at some point as seoul is where the matches will be played so

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dongrumble [#22]

good brand deals not rooter or some shit

FYI rooter isnt their sponsor
Their sponsors are Twitch,ZOTAC/RTX,one gaming chair company I idk its name and they have their own production studio

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Parichay
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dongrumble [#22]

good brand deals not rooter or some shit

rooter was there sponsor not anymore its twitch now

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Olofboost [#6]

No
An organization which never changes its roster for better players, keeps 30 yo washed boomers who must've retired long time ago, doesn't belong in franchise

they hold on to that roster made an indian team dominated the entire SA region for 1.5 years without even a single change. This is a miracle done by global esports. Even though other teams had better aimers judging by there performance in the past from CSGO and then valorant

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dongrumble [#2]

Tbh No

Edit - I'm talking about as an org... not the team

It's the exact opposite of it
As an team he'll no as an org maybe yes

#44
Klause
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Many people have GE hate boner here.. So it is for sure that except indians many will say they dont deserve this.

But clearly on a economical point of view.. It has to happen
India as a region could offer much more to riot in terms of views or economics.

#45
Enamul_Huq1990
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Not really.

#46
dongrumble
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Stax_rb_op [#43]

It's the exact opposite of it
As an team he'll no as an org maybe yes

More like
As an org - No
As a team - Never

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https://valorantesports.com/news/the-teams-for-the-2023-pacific-league-revealed/en-sg

This is the reason why GE get slot

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Zeon_pd [#47]

https://valorantesports.com/news/the-teams-for-the-2023-pacific-league-revealed/en-sg

This is the reason why GE get slot

For last ones:
Founded in 2017, Global Esports (GE) owns and operates 12 teams around the globe across 9 games. Regarded as one of the premier VALORANT Esports organizations in South Asia, they have been very active in the competitive scene in the region since the game's launch and have also made a mark at the APAC stages in the VCT circuit

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