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old nth vs new nth

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#54
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"And you assume that ACS is a better metric? In terms of all valued stats (Kills, K/D differential, FK/FD differential) Seoldam did better than JohnOlsen map 1. Even with your supposed ACS diff, it's not even a huge gap - only 20."
johnolsen had better ADR, had same FK, and more deaths mean you're doing your job as jett. i still stand with my point, johnolsen is a little better than seoldam.

"Ignoring the fact that I mentioned Meiy, TENNN, and SugarZ3ro? Ignoring the fact that I also agreed with f0rsakeN?" broski you can have a korean pride bias and also supporting other players in jp, also the f0rsaken comparison is obvious, you literally have to agree with it or you're delusional, f0rsaken >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seoldam. you're clueless, having a korean pride bias is fine but i'm telling you that your bias is pushing towards seoldam>johnolsen and saying astell is carrying CR seems delusional as fuck.

"Team diff does not mean anything in regards to a player's individual skill. TL vs C9B Champs Quarterfinals, Leaf had more impact than anyone in the game, getting two aces. TL still won 2-0. You don't know what you're talking about." when the comparisons are pretty equal you narrow it down to little things like who led the team to win. not to mention, johnolsen had insane popout performances in other matches of the lcq against damwon and nuturn. you are without a doubt undermining his impact by a lot.

"Very reputable team with good talent scouting and actual infrastructure decided that Seoldam was a viable player to join their roster." the comparison was johnolsen vs seoldam, we all acknowledged that seoldam was a good player, who knows what johnolsen had been offered behind the scenes?

"You can't even say primes, Seoldam never played as a professional in any game and Northeption was his first team. JohnOlsen has a history in CS." do you understand what primes mean? "a state or time of greatest strength, vigor, or success in a person's life." in valorant context, most success and best performance of a player. it doesn't matter whether seoldam have had a history in other games, he's also been in Nth since february of 2021.

"FS winning was not because of JohnOlsen" he was CLEARLY the x factor, performed really well in 3 maps and performed solid in the other 2

you used to have great takes but recently even in other threads you became really delusional, sure you may have different opinions but saying Nth would've done better than FS in champs is an awful take, undermining FS' win in the most important series of the lcq and saying a team that lost to them would've done better is dumb, like fucking win then?

probably my last reply, you can disagree with whatever you like but the stats and impact of johnolsen in the bo5 was clear.

#56
KoreanOverlord
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the only thing ur right about is astell being mediocre

however u are 100% delusional about seoldam being worse than johnolsen

#58
archetype
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i read everything, just wanted to let you know youre not gonna go ignored

you used to have great takes but recently even in other threads you became really delusional

i appreciate that you respected my view on the scene and the game.
I personally don't believe it's an awful take to say Nth would have done better in Champs, because individually Nth were the better team and it was kind of obvious FS was a PTC/JohnOlsen show. TENNN, Meiy, and SugarZ3ro performing the way they have kind of provides a great case for this.

And yes, the stats and impact of JohnOlsen in the bo5 are clear for anyone to interpret, and also compare :)

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imo meiy wasn't really comfortable with the flex role but he's a beast on jett and his aim is really good, lammysnax on the other hand is quite underrated with his util. FS almost took breeze from c9 but i doubt that nth would go any futher considering it's their first lan event (as far as i know) and they were really young (besides astell).

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