Forsaken express interest to join FNATIC/M3C

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ItsMeDio

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I say one thing, you instantly assume I'm shitting on the other. I say PRX lost to ZETA because of lack of discipline, you say I NEVER appreciate ZETA? Are you high or something?

are u fuckin idiot or what? i said ZETA COUNTER STRAT THEM (ZETA COUNTER STRAT THEM BY PLAYING PRX ANTI-STRAT), and MINDFREAK LOST SO MANY DUELS. im sure if they play again, they would win, and MY OPINION based on overall their performance, including apac & master. NOT JUST ONE MAP OR ONE MATCH. im from apac bro. i watched all of their matches

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Sure, there were some elements of anti-strat, but I wonder if you know anything about what goes into anti-stratting. It's not as simple as "PRX exec on A site like this" - it goes down to even stuff like analysing playstyle and playing differently.

ZETA COUNTER STRAT THEM BY PLAYING PRX ANTI-STRAT

The most uninformed thing I have ever seen. I guarantee you have never touched anything close to professional Valorant or have coached a team or even gotten a high rank.

NOT JUST ONE MAP OR ONE MATCH. im from apac bro. i watched all of their matches

You act like I've never watched PRX either lmao. I guarantee if ZETA plays PRX again, they would win even harder.

#65

ItsMeDio

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no
they even can't win against northception bro
wdym?

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Are you implying Northeption is bad or something lol?
Do you think ZETA is a bad team to have lost to Northeption or something lol?

#71

ItsMeDio

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yes
they are not getting better than master 1
master 1 zeta >> zeta right now

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agree on that part, but Northeption is still a good team lol.

#75

ItsMeDio

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hey, let me clear my statement

let's just go back to the first statement
u said,
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f0rsakeN's playstyle wouldn't really mesh well on either team imo. Fnatic are super strat/exec heavy, and M3C play a slow.

i dont think this is true. okay. forsaken gameplay is undiscipline because its ranked, benkai let f0rsaken and jinggg to do whatever they want that, and that's their gameplay right now. that's how they are playing right now. i think he can adapt well if the igl told him to discipline.

fnatic has literally ZERO reason to adapt to f0rsakeN's gameplay. of couse zero reason.

this is just hypothetically. they "can adapt" if they want. just hypothetically , okay

Lack of discipline is extremely big
again, i think it's their gameplay & how they are playing & just a matter of time, he can adapt imo

How is it that his teammates are shit vs ZETA and DRX when it's the same team that 2-0 G2 and Guard?

ever heard of bad day? also, i already said zeta had 1 week preparation. it's "maybe" just maybe a fluke run, also they read their gamestyle

I say PRX lost to ZETA because of lack of discipline

i respectfully said yes and no. Yes, their are undiscipline, but ZETA read their gameplay and game style. that's their gamestyle. undiscipline is also part of their gamestyle. they lost to zeta, because zeta read their "undiscipline" gameplay.

okay, this is my final thought. sorry about the grammar lol

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we kind of made the same type of comment at the same time LOL

i understand your comment, don't worry about the grammar, your grammar is fine.
I respectfully disagree with everything except this:

Lack of discipline is extremely big
again, i think it's their gameplay & how they are playing & just a matter of time, he can adapt imo

I would like this to happen and can see it happening. but currently, taking f0rsakeN right now and putting him in either team, i don't see it working.

#70

MomGoSky

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bro as an indonesian urself, don't you want forsaken to continue playing in SEA? Loss of great talents in the SEA scene is really bad. Why keep fighting about whether forsaken deserves to join fnatic? It is just not worth it, just ignore the north korean guy.

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f0rsakeN has expressly said he would be open to joining NA/EMEA teams after Jinggg leaves for his service.

With love, "the north korean guy"

#74

ItsMeDio

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no. i always want f0rsaken playing his team with his nationality first. my bad tho. i shouldn't getting an online debate like this. there's no winner.

also, i really think his thought is so wrong when he said f0rsaken can't mesh with fnatic/m3c gameplay just because saw f0rsaken gameplay right now.

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Listen, I'm tired of arguing. It's clear that both of us think we're in the right. I don't know your qualifications, and you don't know mine, but I am confident in what I'm saying. I'm also kind of convinced you're not understanding my point. Maybe there's some small language barrier.

he said f0rsaken can't mesh with fnatic/m3c gameplay just because saw f0rsaken gameplay right now.

I think it's true - what has been shown onstage in competitions, f0rsakeN is not the kind of player like Derke or Alfajer, he plays differently. Maybe in the future, he could be that player. He is young, after all. But from what has been shown since VCT Berlin until now, this playstyle of f0rsakeN does not fit with Fnatic/M3C.

You can sum up your final point here and just leave it as is.

#79

ItsMeDio

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welp gg

#81

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LOL

#78

Primion

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no other strong player beside to replace jingg, if yes its harder to find out, and its harder to keep on top without strong player too