Because alot of people aren't nice either

and if you instalock you should perform no? otherwise you're just throwing by not playing for team

Can you use the amount of kills a player has as an argument for when they are toxic and you have to call them shit.

Or just people who instalock phoenix and then go 2/10 in the first half? can you talk shit at them for it?

I havent kept track of TL's games but weren't they like number 2 team after fnc. i only watched FNC vs TL but what happened to them? I thought their team was good... but they weren't at madrid or shanghai right?

you can't say that

how is Navi even in the top 5?

i mean i guess yeah. It just feels... unsatisfactory now. Like we know they can get top 3. if they just win 1 it would be such a blessing

i meant that as in if they won, that their win wasn't pure luck. That they showed actual skill, Strategy and some IQ points

I think they will be actual contenders for Champs. They look amazing against TH already so even if champs is a no for them. They'll be ready next year

why PRX, I think they haven't won anything right?

I just really don't like the ORG for some reason or the team. Just TH in general. idk why tho

Has performed the best overall of valorant's tournaments. Preferably not just throphy count but also how good the ORG was at the time of winning

And which ORG peaked the highest

If for example FNC end up winning Shanghai. Not saying they will.

i'm just curious if a team from a certain region wins if the region then becomes good. Because people are flaming all of EU for what TH are doing rn.

Karmine corp

I absolute hate the french, if they all suddenly died i'd throw a party. if i had the ability to i'd throw a nuke onto their country

never heard of this guy for some reason

lucky win, they played good for 1 game and then got 3-0'd, Every team can have a lucky game. Lev defo wasnt in form that game and made too many mistakes

i'm saying they are amazing as in i like them, not that they are amazing as in good.

I like their players and the team name, its also why i said they wont win masters. but if they have good practice and aren't nervous they might do better then you expect.

FNC beat TH with miniboo so they'll win when he is not there for sure.
100T won 3-0 to G2. only Lev should be closer to them, g2 is dogwater
PRX look great and 100T has very little experience playing against them so they will struggle at the very least.
EDG could beat G2 and possibly FUT (Depending how in form they are when they play)
DRG are my under dogs tbh

All in all its not that bad, i think fut should go to 7, LEV to 6 and then have edg at 8

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he gon fry himself

Honestly i don't think they will win the entire event but at least get to top 4.

DRG is just fucking awesome to be honest

so Zekken's 101 kills at Madrid was also just a lifegame right? he's also just mid and had a life game.

he's done well regionally at kickoff, at Madrid (even though everyone complains about it being a shit masters.) and now he's still doing well in Stage 1. I'm not saying he's better than Aspas, i dont even like Aspas but if Texture does well at Shanghai i think we can at least say he's currently in the top 3 duelists.

Bait used to be believable.

Moron didn't even do his placements but ended up in 'immo'

top tier input LoL

SEN only screwed if g2 and lev do very well at Shanghai. doesn't top 4 in points qual to champs

Kru didnt make it to champs so even if g2 and lev overtake them they'd be in the top 4.

if SEN dont get any points in stage 2 and C9 + Kru do very well in stage 2 would they really be in danger i think.

KC isn't a bad team at all though, first seed of group A so its not like FNC had it easy.
Navi also lost against BBL during groups, if they didn't they'd have gotten first seed and went straight to double elim.

The format wasn't even that bad, if NAVI was so good they'd have beaten TH or any opponent they come across.
FNC did beat TH in the end with Leo being sick. So they deserve to go

Texture broke the record of most kills in a BO5 did he not? so why try to take away from a clearly good player?
he still performes amazing and is doing very well

I don't think Shazh, Pancada and Dapr were treated that badly.

it's shit that Shazh found out through a tweet but SEN probably didn't mean for him to find out like that. they probably wanted to tell him in person. So thats not even there fault, unless the CEO or a coach told this Geddes guy.

Pancada was just unlucky, Zellsis was a way better fit for the team and the performance of the team without Pancada was such an improvement that they would be dumb to put Pancada back into the team

Dapr stuff isnt something i really know much about so i can't say much about this.;

But again its very different from other ORGs, EG still threw away a winning team, other orgs do just as much dumb shit or keep players trapped for an entire season with insane buyouts.

OW doesn't, call of duty mostly has upward recoil and not really set patterns

OW doesn't, call of duty mostly has upward recoil and not really set patterns (wrong reply whoops)

Why are they hating on a good org? in terms of just the org its been amazing. they treat their players well, dont randomaly collapse, they aren't a shit org like EG who just ditch a great team for their salaries.

I get SEN fans can be little shits but there's also those that just like SEN and act normal.

To be honest if they change it now after so long it'll probably ruin the game for alot of people. since they'd suddenly have to change everything they have known for 3 years. That and it'd be even more of a cs go rip off if they use the same spray patterns

so you're saying there is no skill in aiming rn?

they cant win on round diff...

liquid needs 28 to go +7 which is impossible in 2 maps. since 13-0 and 13-0 is still only 26. And if they go to 3 maps FNC wins in map diff anyways

NA:
C9 (i like runi)
100T it would be nice to see them again with a better team.
G2 it would be sick if the ascension team made it there.
EMEA:
FNC if they manage to pick themselves up. otherwise they'll be boring in shanghai
FUT they look good and would have close matches
TH would make good matches too
APAC:
DRX look amazing and i like seeing them do well
PRX Jingg is back so i look forward to seeing him play again
Gen.G mostly to prove Madrid wasn't a fluke.
CN:
EDG kangkang is always fun to watcg
FPX look good
DRG i think they can actually do well if they get some international experience

FNC winning the entire thing would be cool cuz i'm a fan and from europe. (cope tho they dont look great)

how tf do you see them making playoffs? G2 and NRG would have to lose 0-2 with horrible round differentials...

i don't think there are tie breaker matches

what? as long as a team got 2 wins they get their spot in each group.

So unless you mean in group Alpha if C9 loses.

because c9 is 4-1 and the other two are 3-2

NVM i thought you meant G2 would qual. i cant read

If Kaplan is doing that then they dont give a shit about going to Shanghai. its just weird. they didnt just look bad. they looked like shit, pure shit.

As a SEN fan wouldn't you want to see a better version of them even with old comps that people can anti strat? i'd rather see them make a real attempt at Shanghai and dont get to play offs there then what now happened

its useless to think about what strats they are saving. whats the use of saving them if you cant make it to Shanghai.
Unless they dont care about Shanghai en just want to make it to champs which is basically guaranteed.

Its just stupid to save strats, they could have use 1 new comp to just win 1 more game to give them more of a safety net. now they lost to EG and the worst LOUD we have ever had

Sen cant win anymore. as in they have no way to make it to playoffs

Furia and MIBR worse then top 3 challengers teams

Mibr and Furia look worse than most challengers teams tbh. i think M80, Oxygen and MxS could easily beat them.

Kc and TH didn't make it out of groups in what everyone calls the worst tournament to date...

you should keep in mind that they only look good in their region. EDG can look like Gods in CN and fail in internationals.

Same goes teams like Kc and TH they were amazing in EMEA but didn't make it out of groups

you can also say its not fair if they get a 1 win minimum. its just 1 less match than group Alpha, so everybody would be guaranteed to go to playoffs. The problem is that almost all good teams are in Alpha with execptions like Loud (even though they didnt win a map. they were thought to be good before now).

if you switched C9 and Mibr then it would have been better imo. or Furia aswell since they also suck.

Nrg should win right?

if EG goes 1-4 does that mean their spot for play offs goes to the other group? so group Alpha?