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Navi/Fpx were always mid

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#1
DeyahAlAjarma

We know how navi this year and last year were mid af, but some say in 2022 they were a top team when in actuality they were always mid.
Reykavik 2022-some say they would have won if they attended but scrims never match results. Remember when Lev was thought to be the best team in 23 because they owned in scrims? Remember Icy 'scrim demon' being the worst on his team? Remember NRG 'owning' scrims? Remember sen w/pancada beating champs teams? Remember 100T being called a superteam in 23?
Copenhagen 2022-Almost lost xxerxia and beat northpeion in groups (both mid af) Lost to trash fnc, beat mid guild, drx out of form (they had rb on jett), barely beat mid fnc, lost to optc trolling comps (wtf is this, and only beat mid prx with benkai because they choked
Champs 22-LOST TOO XSET WITH DEPHH AYRIN AND SYKKO (inexcusible), qualed to playoffs by beating shit kru twice, got destroyed by drx, beat mid lev, WOULDVE LOST TO XSET AGAIN if the turret bug didnt happen, got completly destroyed by drx.

This is your top team?

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number1_cned_hater
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Mr. Yapper, they were a good team they just fell off a lot with meta change and stuff. They might have not won in 2022 but they still would have been top 4

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chsnvictr
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they would def have competed for top 3 at iceland

but 2023 and 2024 navi isnt a top 3 emea team, based on finished (5th in EMEA by end of 2023, 4th at midseason) and again 4th this year

super overrated currently and underrated in the past

#10
number1_cned_hater
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not saying Navi was good saying FPX was good and the event they didn't go to they would have gotten top 4. Navi overrated team in current meta

#3
NexusNomad
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L+ratio+allat

#4
disagree
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drx vs fpx (map 1) is one the best games ever

#5
rtg9000
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holy brainrot

#6
number2_cNed_fan
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Yeah, FUT will clear FPX.

#7
TheAceGamer30
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Fpx/Navi would’ve destroyed optic in Iceland 2022

#17
Agx192
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No they would've lost to drx for the 10th time

#27
Ballacks2
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Nuh uh

#8
Conceit
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Nah you gotta give them Copenhagen, they deserved it. They were probably the third best team that year, which I would definitely not call "mid". Fell off heavy after that though

#11
DeyahAlAjarma
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3rd best team got destroyed by drx twice at champs, got beat by xset once almost twice if not for the bug

#15
Conceit
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I can't believe you're making defend FPX right now. All of the maps vs DRX incredibly close except one. DRX were good, I'm not sure why you're acting like they weren't. Xset were also really good at champs.

Regardless, they were still the best team in EMEA all year and won Copenhagen, plus they still got 4th at Champs, it's not like they did bad. If you call them mid, then almost every team was "mid" that year except like Loud and Optic I guess, which makes no sense.

#34
Overlay
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except for the bug

bro did they not replay that round and it went to OT?

#12
trikecycle
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They would’ve won that bo3 against any team other than heretics they’re still good just had to play single elim qual vs heretics both times

#19
DeyahAlAjarma
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nah they lost to bbl drizzy esports theres no coming back from that

#13
Cromawarrior48
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chokers

#14
woofee99
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We’re Envy/Optic/NRG ever good?

Envy lost to Gambit 3:0, Acend 2:0, and X10 2:1
Optic lost to Guild, Xerxia, and can only beat chokers DRX and teams from their own region.
NRG are 0:4 against BLG and are now 9th in Americas.
Y0y washed, M0rved washed, Trashies washed, C0cktor washed, FNS retired. 🤣🤣

#18
Vividogre
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Bait used to be believable.

#20
BoF7ooM
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its all believable.

#31
Er3ngenes1s
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nah what he said is very believable

#16
Agx192
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Ain'tnoway bro just discovered this 😱😱

#24
Dorszlol20
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flair 🫵😂

#32
Er3ngenes1s
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bro has the worst combo ever. syria and prx flair 💀

#21
amedy
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Are you fucking kidding me?

The reason so many people fell in love with NAVI during and after Copenhagen 2022 was because they pulled of the craziest lower bracket run in the history of Valorant. Apparently you weren't around to watch, because they played with Seider for the matches up until they had to play Guild, and that's when the run began, when Suygetsu came back into the team. He absolutely activated and played insane. That 72 bomb against FNATIC in the lower semis says it all.

The cinderella run for FPX after facing so many challenges through that year, not qualifying to Reykjavik and then having to play with a sub for half the tournament and STILL looking better than the rest of the world, is why this team will always be top in the region even when they get bad matchups or get fucked by the format. They have demonstrated peak player quality, insane strats, ahead of the meta thinking, and overall a fun and entretaining playstyle. Their form hasn't looked as peak as back then, I'll give you that, but to claim the team that pulled of the craziest run up to EG Champs is absolutely braindead behavior.

By the way, I love how you say "lost to optic trolling comps" when half the time FPX themselves are trolling their comps. You say Neon on Icebox is troll, but nothing on Ange1 playing Fade? Choose what argument you're gonna use, and stick to it, you buffoon. And what's funny is that that's a single map where OPTIC decide to pull a surprise pick, and honestly it's justifiable considering the Neon meta at the time plus Victor having crazy movement on the ropes.

I think you just have a bad case of brain damage, or are a low tier baiter. Either way, you can do better than this!

#22
amedy
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You cooked him bruh 💀️‍🔥

#23
amedy
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Thanks Amedy!

#29
DSGFan
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not gonna lie, you were cooking until you decided to schizo complement yourself

#25
DeyahAlAjarma
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wow what a crazy lower bracket run against checks notes a mid af guild with two shit igls whos whole strat was to play retake every round, a mid drx with buzz underperfoming the whole tourney and Rb on jett, FNC with mistic and enzo (you cant tell me this fnc was all that when BOASTER was the third best player), optic who trolled comps, and prx who are always destined to get 2nd. What a lower bracket run guys.

#26
woofee99
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Btw I hope you know the power ranking during Copenhagen was like this:

  1. FPX
  2. PRX
  3. Guild
  4. Fnatic
  5. M3C/Acend/Liquid
    Gap
  6. OPTIC
  7. LOUD
  8. DRX
  9. LEV
  10. KRU
#28
DeyahAlAjarma
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Listen im pretty delusiinal sometimes but you might be the dumbest motherfucker ive ever met

#33
DSGFan
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nah, if Navi are mid, then that means the entire world was worse than mid during copenhagen. If you think everyone is mid, then why are you bothering watching this esport at all?

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