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Jay "sinatraa" Won

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#1
kudos

Has sinatraa been blascklisted by Riot this whole time and is he banned from franchising due to a PR high risk factor?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4fEPMPMomE

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kaesra
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yes

#3
zardinez
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Good!

#4
ouim9
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Rare RIOT W

#47
hekzy
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this

#6
andrewdamf
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no he isnt
its just that orgs are pussies and are scared

#7
reycac
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he wouldnt get a team anyway,hes like drone ,good at the start when no one else is playing then falls off

#8
BraindeadWalker__
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Where this conclusion coming from???

#10
andrewdamf
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actual NPC
sinatraa is still one of the best flex in NA and drone is literally a top 5 initiator lmfao. hes just not a good info initiator tho

#15
reycac
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dick ridaaaaaa

#17
andrewdamf
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ur stupid so i understand why you cant comprehend that

#26
gordonramsay
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Beans on bread 🤣🤣

#27
swayway
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lmfao npc sinatraa cock muncher

#11
LouBag
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I watched him in the qualifiers and was amazed he was still so good.

Watch the video. I never knew he was that good in overwatch.

No one plays like him. I have no doubt that if this never happened he would be a top 5 player in NA.

Insane what accusations can do to you.

Be careful who you get involved with.

#16
reycac
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he cant even beat tier 3 NA teams with a world champ on his team come on bro 💀💀💀💀

#25
kingpedrog
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They were playing with prod so doenst really help having a world champ

#52
weakest_marved_enjoyer
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not tryna dick ride, but if you dont think that team (even with PROD) couldnt qual with a coach and real strats youre delusional

#42
kudos
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Damn nice frags man how do you do it?

#9
pullupthen
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he's bad anyway

#23
SiYK
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better than the whole of mexico combined

#53
Alpac4
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fr fr

#33
avepalto
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cope lmao

#12
SAMPV6
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Riot playing moral police here fuck them tbh

#34
Mortadelo
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That's not playing moral police bruh that's protecting their product. It's literally the same they did with Carlos for example

#65
Ryuji
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lmao carlos got cancelled for no reason

#79
pullupthen
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SEEK HELP

#13
weakest_marved_enjoyer
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i mean its kinda unlucky for him. assuming hes innocent (not saying he is, just assuming so) it sucks he cant compete - even if he wanted to - because of the whole situation. thats how it is though, and honestly i dont think hes losing that much sleep over it cuz streaming is probably better for his "idc" attitude

#59
Tooker
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I think it's worth noting that it's not confirmed that he's blacklisted. During the time he was suspended, he wasn't playing in any tournaments. I believe prior to the LCQ, his only competitive noteworthy thing was being trialed in scrims. It's possible no teams wanted to take a risk on him going into franchising, especially when there wasn't exactly a clear person to replace with him. I think if somehow he isn't picked up by any teams next year, franchise or tier 2, it's safe to say he's been blacklisted from franchising.

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Dybala21
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Makes sense, but still it's a speculation for now

#18
Lovestoclickheads
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Sinatra competed only because he wants to and not because he has to. Only pro players who rarely stream/don't stream at all have to compete because it's their primary source of income.
Sinatra has already had successful careers in 2 fps titles and he has created a success Twitch channel based on it. He couldn't care less if he didn't get into franchising.

#19
kudos
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What events did he win with SENtinels again?

#49
koromast
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masters NA

edit: nvm thought he got benched after tbh but he did won tourneys with same value before against same teams as masters NA.

#20
redlight
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I’ll be real: he himself doesn’t have MUCH brand risk, but his legion of fans does. If he joins X team and they lose, the fans are going to blame that team’s players.

Unless the verdict comes out of what happened that night or during his relationship, I don’t see him joining a team. Yes, he was impressive (individually) at LCQ but there will always be another upstart making waves that will overtake him or any other player. It's a perpetual cycle.

#39
FNEGGS
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We all know he is good but I doubt he will ever go back to playing pro

He makes at least a million a year off streaming maybe even more I dont think he would sacrifice ~80k a month from twitch for ~25k from a org

#51
b0learr
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incredibly based take

#21
pullupthen
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tater totes living in the past, they still think sinatra is good lmao. good in rank sure

#28
Phamous
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He was good in quals too.

#29
capital_d_colon
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versus who?

#31
Phamous
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We can nitpick all day but, in a competitive tournament environment he performed well. You can go look at his games and do the research if you like. I watched his stream, and he was top dog lol. And according to them with very little to no practice.

He’s a solid pro. Hate it or love it.

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capital_d_colon
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i mean hes probably still decent but using open quals as a reason why hes still a "top player" doesnt work

#78
Phamous
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Never said top player but, based on his history and current performances he’s definitely tier 1 ready.

#22
SwimmingWeebsPogChamp
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Sorry, for me sinatra still a bad guy

#30
Number_1_Sheydos_Fan
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because of?

#24
SiYK
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after effects of an allegation :( what if he is innocent?? all these years gone in vain...

#32
Glaciate05
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I don't know how he can be innocent when he didn't even directly deny the claims made aginst him AND he interferred with RIOTS INVESTIGATION, the latter being the real reason he got banned for a year from competting. He may not neccessarily be a bad person now but he justifiably a brand risk. If I were team owner I wouldn't lose a drop of sleep over finding someone else over him.

#36
3cmtotal
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cuz cleoh dropped the accusations and started a only fans

#38
ambo69
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ok so correct me if im understanding this wrong...

sex workers cant get raped, abused, or taken advantage of (proof of all of this was in the docs)

and ill quote from Glaciate05 since you may have missed this part "he didn't even directly deny the claims made aginst him AND he interferred with RIOTS INVESTIGATION, the latter being the real reason he got banned for a year from competing"

#40
3cmtotal
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yeah your understanding is perfect

#41
ambo69
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why?

#58
SiYK
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the question here is, why did she drop the case like nothing ever happened?? She literally just kept tweeting and asking riot to investigate... like anyone would know that the cops need to be involved in such serious shit..

#76
Glaciate05
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Do you think it's easy to fight and win a case like this in court, whatI bet happenned is she went to her lawyers and they said, "you can fight this but it'll drag on for years and even with evidence there is no guarantee you win, also if you don't win you open yourself up to counter-suits."
All I want you to think about is that the process is not a safe system, evidence does not equal a guranteed conviction

#60
Tooker
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The funny thing about this is there's actually a statistic that most people that go into sex work have been sexually abused in the past.

Not saying that makes him guilty.

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Glaciate05
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she didn't drop the accussations, that's just a blatant lie...

#35
Mortadelo
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Innocent so what? That's not how it works, it didn't even take Carlos to do something ilegal either to get banned from riot stuff. They're protecting themselves and seems fair to me in both cases

#57
SiYK
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if destroying careers in name of protection is considered okay, it's a huge L

#37
Dokka
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Good, glad the asshole can't compete

#45
Tentativas
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Damn actually rent free

#64
Dokka
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fym rent free lmfao, the thread is literally about sinatraa

and my response to the thread being happiness that sinatraa isnt allowed to compete

#48
hekzy
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dokka how can you be so based?

#50
GravityMalware
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Best user no cap

#63
CRAZY_CHAINSAW_MAN_FAN
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w then

#43
Kr1zt
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If riot is actively doing something against sinatra, he can suit them for harassment and discrimination, if he win in open qualifiers or make franchise, they have to follows the owns rules

#61
Tooker
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On what grounds lol? Even if he was verifiably innocent, Riot could still blacklist him from the league just because he was associated with SA allegations in the past, nothing illegal about it.

#46
Beldro_vlr
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this is what a bitch can do to your life, choose well your partners boys

#54
iooeaa
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maybe just dont rape your partner and u will be fine?

#66
acels2
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HOLY BASED

#72
Beldro_vlr
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voce provavelmente deve ser um escravoceta.

#55
kudos
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Have you even followed the case and listened to the recorded audio or are you just blowing smoke out your ass?

#67
LouBag
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Yes.

I have no doubt he did what she said.

She was knowingly being filmed. (That says a lot.) she said “no” in a baby voice.

I have no doubt that Sinatraa is a dickbag and was terrible to her. I’m have no doubt that he pressured her into having sex. (I have had sex with my partner when I didn’t want to… because that’s what parters do. They sacrifice.)

He was a kid that treated his girlfriend like shit. Probably said things like “if you don’t won’t have sex with me I can find someone that will in 10 seconds.”

She did things for him that she didn’t want to because he had the upper hand. Then he burned her and she got even.

Sinatraa is without a doubt a dick bag. But he’s not a rapist.

#68
kudos
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Yeah well it really doesn't matter an allegation of that magnitude alone makes him a black sheep on top of being perceived to have not taken his "professional conduct training" seriously and for that he'll never play on a franchised team he's just too much of a liability.

#69
LouBag
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That’s the only reason he ain’t on a team.

People think he isn’t good enough for t1. I watched lcq.

He IS!

It’s the baggage.

Gonna go way off topic and non PC

The Americas league is weaker because we don’t have him. He may not be top 5 now because of the time off he has taken, but he would… without a doubt… be a top 5 player in his role, possibly top10 player in NA, if he was never forced to take a break.

#73
Un1ty
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U ever dealt with narcicism before in your life? It's a slippery thing. When honest I see allot of red flags in him.

#74
Asphyxia
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Having sex when they don't want to... That's called non-consensual sex, or rape(or at least sexual assault)...

#56
Imwrong
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worst video I've seen all year

#62
Tooker
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Felt like 95% of it was just speculation. There's no reason to believe that Sinatraa was blacklisted because Riot would've just made it an indefinite ban. That would've just generated infinite good pr for banning him "permanently,". They literally gained nothing by making it only a 6-month ban.

#70
OzyMeister
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surprises me why people still care the guy makes millions and doesn't give 2 shits about grinding and competing anymore

#71
knd
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nice video

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