add MaKo too. 3c?

LMAO no jus messing with you dexter, i was w/ u but saw this thread yesterday and thought it’d be funny if it actually happened

this aged really well

crazy win for EG

lud said mxm has no plans on leaving val either, unlike DSG. even more respect

thanks lud and moist for coming into the scene you all did great considering the other teams o7

flyuh is a bit of a demon btw

no EG needs 100T to lose to MIBR to make playoffs

teams will probably start investing in t2 talent more like this next year ngl

we saw how it helped C9, EG too, i think there's definitely some benefit and americas teams will def pivot towards this

tbf i think loud spent way more energy prepping for SEN game (since that roster had much more potential to upset than EG) and EG prepped hard to counterstrat.

fair play tho they look clean rn

their assistant coach, mikesHD

KJ - her ult seems kinda busted for site takes rn, and flank util will be important since CTs will push out extremities control
astra
kayo
breach - i acc think breach is a pocket pick for this map, lots of strong stuns can be used
jett or raze duelist

what happened here

this is some bullshit it's a million dollar event and an org like xset may not be picked up next year for franchising

you're hella weird if you decide not to take this opportunity to perhaps win - it doesnt matter if the issue has been there for a while riot deemed it a legitimate bug

if you're malding about it you can't blame XSET and their players for wanting to win, blame rito for the bad decision

this is the most confusing response - it's a competition, of course you're going to try and win

why would they try WILLINGLY take a loss if they could have another chance? i mean riot said it was a legitimate bug no?

8/8

why is it that the winner of group C (KRU or FPX) has to play their quarterfinals match literally 1 day after, while other teams like PRX/TL get a day of prep?

ideally, shouldnt the matches played on the 9th be OpTic vs Paper Rex/Team Liquid and Leviatan vs LOUD/Zeta, not lev's game and DRX vs KRU/FPX?

Masters 3 Berlin
100 Thieves
nAts

W

why do the guns... what?

if it's that they sound weird, that's always been the case for apac and east asia i think - idk what it is, the guns just sound more poppy

rito scared of how badly lcq on "LAN" ran last year, so they said fuck it we just do online instead

NAVi? AS Monaco (with Gambit partnership like in dota 2)?

riot said they’d give a slot priority to certain regions (like france, spain, etc) unclear why they won’t to cis

thanks for fast fixing mate :)

sure -- https://www.vlr.gg/pickem/87ef4310 (just fill it in to complete it)

hey -- i think they're still slightly off? i have both ORDER and AE winning first match and losing second, but they drop down to LR1 instead of LR2

pickem wrong? have all preds right but have FCY vs CES here?

they really are - lots of casters from APAC and KR (im thinking achillios and paperthin rn) that are super strong and entertaining

sadge that rito doesnt care abt them :(

NA
Fade/Neon
Vandal

no 100T/SEN matches? 0/8

agreed these two just bring an energy no one else can

that was some of the best casting we've seen in VCT

bren and sideshow are insane with the emotions

so many props to LEV

yup they'd have to compete under a different name

these chinese circuit isnt technically operated by VCT but rather by a third party

the most interesting take on here

even if this is true, the whole point of franchising is consolidating strong players and weeding out all the weak ones.

tenz still has potential, no doubt in my mind if SEN don’t make franchising he gets picked up somewhere else

COMMON HUDSEN W

never heard of this comp before -- who's organizing it?

also very stacked participant list. incredibly excited to watch these teams battle it out.

good eye

what changed?

I was thinking about this, and I noted it may be smart for Riot to include a "wildcard series" or something of that sort so that T2 talent can still foster.

What do I mean by this:

Let's assume that VCT still runs in two stages, where Masters becomes a MSI type tournament like what is in LoL which would happen inbetween Stage 1 and Stage 2, and then Champions in September. Then that means we would have two stages.

Stage 1 would just be 12 invited teams to the league, which would look something along the lines of:
(and keep in mind as you're reading these predictions, that Riot will likely not just choose teams based off of team success and skill, but also based off of their money and if they've partnered with other Riot esport ecosystems like the leagues in LoL)

Americas:
NA: C9, SEN, 100T, OpTic, TSM, LG, T1 (?)
BR: LOUD, FURIA, NIP
LATAM: KRU, FUSION (LATAM North, I would argue has more money than 6K)

Asia:
APAC: PRX, BLEED,
KR: DRX, DWG, On Sla2ers
JP: ZETA, RIG or DNG (Reignite and DetonatioN Gaming, has more money than Crazy Raccoon)

Europe:
EU: ACEND, FNATIC, GUILD, G2, TL, VITALITY, MAD LIONS, OGLU
TR: SMB, BBL
CIS: M3C, NAVi

Then in Stage 2, 4 teams would be invited to these superleagues, and there would be different ways to do this.

In the Americas league, perhaps 8 teams from NA play for 2 spots, and 8 teams from BR/LATAM play for 2 spots

In the European league, the 8 teams in EU VRL's would compete, and then 8 teams from the CIS and TR VRL would compete for 2 slots each.

In the Asian League, 8 APAC teams would compete for 2 spots, and 8 KR/JP teams would play for 2 spots.

This allows for teams to still be committed, or else I figure they'd just drop their rosters. It also still gives upset potential which would certainly help the scene with viewership, as well as tackle with issues like Astralis in LEC, where they just are always dead and never do well, and let Riot access more adequately which teams to keep in the long term, and to pressure certain teams to step it up.

TLDR: 12 team leagues are solid, if VCT 2023 runs like 2022 with 2 stages, Stage 2 should open each league to 4 spots which would come from "Wildcard" tournaments through regional leagues, in a similar structure to Challengers -> Masters currently.

i swear steel removed the T1 from his name a long time ago, but perhaps im just pretending to remember things

not sure what the significance of the T1 tweet is tho

following trade of C9 xeta and autumn, is it safe to say that T1 is planning on franchising into korean VCT?

waiting for the “bro thought he was funny part 73938593” post from valorantgamer69420

i agree though it puts WAYY too much pressure on teams to succeed within stage 1, because should they pass through open quals, they can just guarantee they're in VCT for the rest of the year

the VRL system does let for tier 2 valorant to be more competitive and have more games tho, both systems work great tbh (EMEA and NA)

actually fax fokus sleeper pick, their underdog story begins now >:)

EMEA already has smaller more regional leagues called the VRLs. what that means is, if teams want to compete in challengers, they have to first choose to compete in a VRL, find success there, and then go through a relegation process to re-enter EMEA challengers

yea basically -- masters 2, LCQ, and then champs just like you said

riot wanted to cut the VCT short this year, which opens up the timeline between sept-dec for third party competitions + international game changers events

hmm interesting -- thanks!

(lmao i know it's a bit of an internet explorer moment, was just curious)

https://www.hltv.org/news/33709/gob-b-returns-to-big-as-head-coach

gob b went back to valorant, sadge

so who's replacing him on BIG? isnt EMEA challengers pretty soon?

easy 4 TBD -- never seen em lose these

DZ 2-0 — trick pulls out some “tricks” and with the power of zexrow “FNCS NAE 2nd place” drops 80 kills