Ah I see… they don’t play each other again. If FNC and TH are the only teams that are 4-1 but TH beat FNC, TH is #1 seed, FNC is #2 seed

“2-way tie
Head-to-head Match Score”

However if NAVI is also 4-1 by beating TH and VIT, the above scenario (#7) happens.

So I’m assuming you’re asking what happens in a three way tie (if FNC, TH, and NAVI are all 4-1). Since in this case FNC > NAVI > TH > FNC, there’s an unresolved three way tie and it goes to map differential, if map is tied it goes to round differential

“3-way tie
Head-to-head Match Series
Teams with two matchup head-to-head advantage automatically receives first of the group. Tie-breakers for the remaining two teams are determined using the above head-to-head tiebreaker process.
If no team has a two matchup head-to-head advantage (all Teams are 1-1 head-to-head), then proceed to next step of the 3-way tie-breaker process.
Map differential”

It’s h2h first. Rest is here https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VCT/2025/Americas_League/Stage_1/Group_Stage, click “Click here for tiebreaker rules”

Irl friends follow LOSER sports like basketball, while I’m the only one screaming at cartoons shooting each other which is much cooler. It’s really nice to have somewhere to talk about pro val esp cause it’s such a niche thing to follow (ig it’s one of the more popular esports, but doesn’t hold a candle to like basketball, soccer, hockey)

I do think original comment is a little much- but to the layman who went through obligatory math + some more (me), presenting percentages inherently carries the assumption that calculations/trials were done. If it were otherwise, it should be stated in the original post as not saying so would be misleading. But like you said, this is fucking vlr.gg, where every other post is rage bait, so this post is definitely a nice change

you definitely don’t have to answer this cause it’s personal info- are you a math major? A lot of your posts here involve discrete math (I hope I’m categorizing this right…)

You know ball, sichuan food is so peak :D

most of this site is ragebait, and 100T is one of the most popular VCT teams so it's one of the best teams to hate on to get interactions (at least this is what I think). also people loooove to bandwagon (#17)

OH!

Yea I forgot it was DIFFERENTIAL not total wins for maps but not rounds? Too much glue sniffed :(

I think the main problem with 100T is that they’re inconsistent. If you watch their matches, most of the rounds feel quite close and rely on hero plays + insane individual performance (usually cryo, boostio was really good vs 2G). I mean it worked for the last three matches, but for 100T to be rated highly and for people to be more confident in them, they should rely on less heroics and do more team play, trading, util etc. (just more consistent methods of winning).

Bump!

Also for SEN, although unlikely there is a scenario where they can get 4th seed by losing really badly against 2G and EG beating LOUD really badly.

100t wins vs KRU, EG wins vs LOUD (MUST be a 2-0), SEN loses against 2G (MUST be an 0-2)

And then round differential has to be so that EG > SEN

So as long as SEN DOESN’T get 2-0d, they have 3rd seed guaranteed, but 4th seed is still a possibility (albeit low, as right now SEN is +30 and EG is -3- meaning if, for example, if SEN gets 13-5d twice, they now have +14 round differential and then EG can get third seed by winning 13-5, 13-3 and becoming +14)

I thought if I manifested hard enough it would happen

https://www.vlr.gg/pickem/9780ce5f

I'm ngl I completely forgot I picked eg over kru and I have no fucking clue why I did that

h2h is prio. if 100t win and sen win, sen is 1st seed. if 100t win and sen lose, 100t is first seed

are you on mobile? pc is pretty clear cause it's rows and columns lining up

I love how the nicest thing you have to say about boostio is a fantastic cheerleader

H2H > if there’s a “paradox”, map diff > round diff

check liquipedia

I mean if they won this match they would have #1 or #2 seed guaranteed, but instead they can end up anywhere from 1-4. I don’t believe that they would give up that big of an advantage in stead of the petty exclusion of loud from playoffs

Damn the dedication is insane - ofc this comes from an 100t fan ;)

Did you use sheets functions or is this manual?

yup!!! our boys are susceptible to slow starts, so I was scared they could’ve gotten an unlucky loss first match if they were fourth seed and gotten eliminated altogether, so I’m VERY glad that’s not the case.

It’s kind of funny how kru losing screws everyone over except for 100t (as in getting possible 4th seed)

yes hopefully kru stays like this form and 2g gets miraculous improvement.

top 4 as sen, 100t, eg, kru is locked in

Read tiebreaker rules on liquipedia. H2H first, if paradox then map differential, if map differential tied round differential.

Even if eg loses to loud and 2g wins vs sen, both teams will be 2-3 in which case tiebreaker is h2h. EG wins this cause they won against 2g

Possible scenarios:
1) sen wins against 2g, 100t wins against kru, eg wins vs loud
100t and sen are 4-1; sen wins h2h. eg and kru are 3-2, eg wins h2h -> 1) sen 2) 100t 3) eg 4) kru

2) sen loses to 2g, 100t wins against kru, eg wins vs loud
100t is 4-1. sen, eg, kru are 3-2 -> sen beat eg beat kru, seeding is dependent on round and then map differential -> 1) 100t, rest unknown

3) 2, but eg loses vs loud
100t is 4-1. sen, kru are 3-2; kru wins h2h. eg is 2-3 -> 1) 100t 2) kru 3) sen 4) eg

4) sen wins against 2g, 100t loses against kru, eg wins vs loud
sen and kru are 4-1, kru wins h2h. 100t and eg are 3-2, 100t wins h2h -> 1) kru 2) sen 3) 100t 4) eg

5) sen loses to 2g, 100t loses to kru
kru is 4-1. sen and 100t are 3-2; sen wins h2h. 1) kru 2) sen 3) 100t 4) eg

IF EG LOSES TO LOUD THEY ARE AUTO 4TH SEED

Everyone but 100t is possibly 4th seed!

There are 8 possible outcomes (2^3). Calculating probability of each team getting 1st seed assuming each match is 50/50 we have:
sen 1st seed -> 25%
kru 1st seed -> 50%
100t 1st seed -> 25%
eg 1st seed -> 0%

Lmk if I made mistake!!

edit: whoops probability.

i remember sen players getting cheered on after getting eco kills like someone just aced while it was dead silent after every insane luk xo play.

is it like this for every na team vs. not na team? or is it just amplified because it's the most popular vct team? i mainly watch 100t games and was too stressed to notice the crowd during 100t vs. loud or 100t vs 2g

oh my god im stupid i forgot kru is 3-0 rn and will probably (if i jinx this.) win against eg. yea ur right

nope, h2h is first which means if sen win against 2g (it can be 2-1) and 100t win against kru, sen and 100t are both 4-1 and sen is 1st seed

this one according to liquipedia (click on click here for tiebreaker rules)

nice try

anulo mufa

icebox was pretty much a stomp, but it was 12-6 and I was still fucking scared they would lose

Rereading my clarification… I can definitely see why it can come off as encouraging racism against British people, which is my bad and not my intention. My clarification to my clarification (whoops…) is that I was definitely not disagreeing with 1243’s points about scrims

yup definitely not disagreeing with you here, just noting how two posts saying the same thing but one with slightly more emotionally triggering language gets 10x the engagement because of how inclined people are to respond to not critical thinking but emotions...

I love how this post got like 10x the engagement the other post did even when you were essentially saying the same thing just cause this one had more emotionally engaging language

I don't think flor is overrated overall though. The thing with flor is that she has a lot of adamant haters, so a lot of the glazing is just to offset the hating (which honestly? mostly comes from the fact that she's a trans woman and it's not even subtle)

no matter how good you are, if you're the face of valorant, you will be overrated. tenz no doubt was really good, but his popularity basically makes him overrated by default

come inside of my heart - iv of spades

impossible - wasia project

petals on the moon - wasia project

samba love - science noodles

daisy - wave to earth

wave - wave to earth

star city cafe - hevel & evito

kiss u better - katsu oso

samba love is like mumbling music but I fw it

wave wave to earth sometimes is too slow for my dopamine addled brain

ngl I didn't really think about it until you brought it up here, but you're definitely right. think the most glaring point here is ethicality vs. legality. is it ethical? no. is it legal? yes, and aren't scrims coordinated by two teams with no oversight from riot? how would riot even enforce rules against scrim sharing?

also I'm assuming interference from orgs themselves by blacklisting is literally not even that hard for t1 teams. scrim sharing is probably still a problem for t2 or lower teams tho, in which case I have no clue how to fix (and riot clearly doesn't either, seeing as there are like 0 rules on it)

Bang was inconsistent but insane sometimes on 100t (iirc he was really good against 100t as well…). I’m sure if sen realizes how to bring that out from him, Sen has at least Zekken and Bang

A rubber room

Basic ahh

jk rach 2 is basic but peak

your eternal lies (fantasy/historical), muse on fame (not really romance centered), how I found it in july (drama is extraordinary you) for some angst, but not really "shitty romance" classification

romance 101 is great- college, modern, romance. can be classified as shitty romance

the girl and the geek is modern, working (?) romance. can be classified as shitty romance

miss not-so sidekick is a nice comedy isekai (COMEDY) may be a little cringe but it's still peak. more comedy than romance (romance picks up towards the end)

seasons of blossom is sad asf but does have some romance (high school)

my gently raised beast, happily ever afterwards for some shitty fantasy/isekai romance

a business proposal and who made me a princess have really shit story but art is so good you might forget about it

daytime star is modern + sappy but you might like it. can be classified as shitty romance

little rabbit and the big bad leopard (um. just give it a try trust me. it's not furry), fantasy kind of light hearted. can be classified as shitty romance

all completed btw!!

whoops meant to say no one talks abt no home/homeless

I agree that Americas is looking weak, but 2g has shown rapid improvement and luk xo was almost able to solo carry loud to a win against 100t. The best part of watching any region is seeing seemingly random teams get better. You can say lev, 2g, furia, eg, nrg don’t deserve playoffs, but that’s what everyone basically said about eg in 2023. It’s so hard to say that anyone doesn’t deserve playoffs, because even if teams “sneak” into playoffs, they are extremely disadvantaged due to format (and rightfully so due to shit regular season performance)

i mean if you want action + story, nothing can top omniscient reader's viewpoint, really

deep characters, not really action, read no home / homeless. that shit is peak, personally my fav of all time, and no one talks about it???

romance- olgami/trapped is craaaazy good. a lil thriller too, maybe?

lmk if u want shitty romance cause I've read too many of those and. I have so much to say about shitty romance manhwa

depends on what you value, many value champs >>> masters. but if you weigh all international events equally (or at least not champs >>> masters), valid take

100t has beat eg and loud, sen has beat 100t and eg. ig we'll see how c9 fares against a better team today against mibr

sen and 100t > c9?

i hope you know this is actually all your fault

bro can't believe sen is using zellshit instead of pancada?? it's not looking good for them lmaooo

som, maybe? but this is only going off of the scoreboard, I didn't watch nrg matches this stage

definitely not the first time loud has choked on icebox... feels bad for loud fans

yea and on his debut in t1 too luk xo is too good