VCLs is pre franchising i assume?

Who are you arguing with?

ascent is gonna be picked by loud tho so no i doubt fnc will be able to ban it. Either way tho it didnt seem like they were playing their regular ascent, it seemed WAAAAY too slow when regularly their ascent is so meticulous and drilled

FNC are winning cause theyve been saving strats

icebox was pretty boring I do agree and Pearl was often pretty boring in the past but with the changes i think it was alright. But yea in terms of ranked i think the teams comps are gonna be much easier to fill

im pretty sure youre allowed to have maximum of 2 imports including your sub

2 imports are allowed 3/5 of your team needs to be within your region

Theyre having massive fluctuations map to map which weve never seen this team have before. Theyre usually insanely consistent and no matter how close the maps they always close it out.
Thoughts?

yea loud did play the better game but FNC were also playing with terrible spacing, no strats, and zero aggression after the post plant. FNC lost the game more than Loud won it

"best" is really subjective here. We cant exactly say itll be the best cause it wont be the most interesting by any stretch of the imagination but also itll be all maps that most teams and players can play with competence. So maybe for ranked yea but competitive is gonna be hella boring with bind ascent and haven tho haven and bind have the occasional great games

tbf most of his time on TL was fucked because he doesnt really have a backbone to stop his players when theyre going too far with the cooking. Scream and jamppi messed up his entire time there, hed do better with a team that would actually listen to his coaching and not make shit up whenever they feel like it

unlikely, theres always 2 pilots in a plane

FNS not live

doubt hed fall off, a lot of OG players are still good today tho tbf those ones are the ones who werent mechanically cracked players and instead fundamentally sound players like ethan

preparing to pick up their carries yay and marved next year

idk how people can spend their whole day on this site ngl. It makes sense theyve all gone mad

I was ready to type Ayo?

thats 60% of what makes a player good at the game in the first place, why do you think ppl suck suygetsus dick so much even tho he has nothing more than aim

he had health issues. Before that he was competing really well as long as his team was doing good. Individually he isnt great but an egoless duelist like him was a huge reason as to why Gambit worked so well. They were able to turn him into anything they wanted or needed in the moment without any hesitation. It allowed Gambits pace to change at a moments notice, it was crazy to watch at some points. Esp during the M3C short era

PRX easily beat them imo. FNC take far too long to counter anything a team does. It could just be PRX is stylistically weak against a team like FNC but if they can pull smth and get some momentum I could see it going 2-0 PRX

1. PRX
2. DRX
3. FNC
4. BLG

an indo superteam would be good and weve seen parts of them assembled before but theres a work ethic block in indonesia that would never allow them to make it anywhere
Forsaken alone being one of the best players in the world already give huge reason as to why an indo superteam would do really well. But i do agree a russian superteam would be absolutely unstoppable

Idk if its cause he could comm in russian and was just more comfortable or what but hes definitely got the potential still. Tokyo showed glimpses of brilliance. I just dont know where the throws come from

what are we even talking about rn?

100% theyd beat gambit but something i dont see enough people realize is that both gambit and sen would be in the top 10 of teams in the current landscape of the game. I mean there are so many teams that wouldnt even be able to compete with them like TL, FPX, Kru (...maybe), and theres 1 more im forgetting.
Those 2 teams were the KINGS of fundamental game and simple plans and strats. They never overcomplicated shit and were able to always be really consistently good. Thats why FNC are dominating rn. Its not like they have PRX level set plays, or FNS and Saadhak level counters, but by playing the fundamental game to perfection youre already better than 90% of teams that are tier 1.

thats exactly why you can compare. The fact that theres such a huge argument for Less being the top player of all time just goes to show that even on senti and anchor smokes hes able to match players who are meant to have the highest impact in the lobby by design.
People really dont understand how ridiculously difficult it is to consistently play at that level with those agents. Thats why Nats was such a sight to see back when really only dapr was ever decent on a sentinel role internationally

bro is delusional signing his VLR comments, smart way to quickly cement yourself in the eyes of VLR

ong, tho if they keep this current roster i got a feeling were gonna break the curse. Sad part is its just not happening

bro said drx and loud are good x_x
The reason the games gameplay evolves at a snails pace is because ppl like you are still around

yea tbf either way NRG was still the better team considering they actually made top 4 and literally beat Navi and had a close game against the finalists meanwhile Navi got stomped by FNC
Navi has done nothing of significance this eyar

youre trying too hard to bait
Asias made 4 teams to playoff with only 6 in the tourney so by any logic asia is the greatest region

the fact that NRG even made 4th place this year and decent in lock in is already enough to cement them above expectations. They even got second in Americas (tho tbf every team crumbled towards the end of the season).
Navi on the otherhand were looking like they were one of the greatest franchising teams heading into it and that theyd easily make deep runs in all the tournaments and potentially challenge FNC. Navis expectations were sky high and all they did was beat KRU, TS, a broken Lev, and lost 3-0 to FNC.
By far Navi were the more disappointing team this year and they werent exactly worse but had much worse placements than NRG

honestly the moment BLG do that id be fucking ecstatic. Mfs are treating this team as if theyre crazy racoons from 2021. They genuinely are really good and have a playstyle no one else in the game currently is playing with. There was a reason X10 beat NV and why BLG beat NRG cleanly and it isnt luck

youre just as blind as everyone on NRG if you really think that BLG is such a weak team to the point that it was an embarrassment for NRG to lose to them and not the fact that NRG never even tried to understand their playstyle and counter it

id say navi off the fact that their expectations should be far higher than NRGs, they were looking like easily one of the greatest teams heading into franchising but after lock in they just never performed anywhere near up to expectations.
NRG on the otherhand lost their 2 best players, they added som and ardis but now that weve seen their skill levels clearly ardiis at least isnt what yay was for optic

I hope so too but they dont look consistent enough. There are way too many rounds being thrown. One good thing is that we no longer have to worry about FNS fucking up our runs

thats cause of a stylistic difference and how it completely counters FNS' calling style and the teams playstyle

it literally wasnt tho, its a playstyle contrast. BLGs style is to discoordinate the opponents by constant trading and suppressive pushing through smokes and map control. NRG cant counter it because they arent an exec or retake team, they dont have any set plays for either which is the weakness to BLGs playstyle.
Even FNC on lotus which is a great trading map was getting messed up. They lost coordination at a lot of points and couldnt retrade their teammates since the map is so closed off which is the opposite of Haven where BLG got owned since there was no where to hid from the retrades

thats crazy how you can discount BLG so hard. Their playstyle was a complete counter to NRGs, there was no universe NRG were ever gonna win against BLG unless they all had life games at the same time on every map. Thats why they got owned by FNC on haven cause FNCs haven is really heavy on isolating individuals, cutting off sight lines, and constant suppression as well as pressure.
BLG are weak to strong execs and retakes because once their formation is broken and they cant trade each others crazy plays their entire game plan crumbles. BLG are probably the best at trading rn, no other team has this level of consistent trading. Thats exactly why they couldnt beat FNC on haven is cause its an open map which allows FNC more angles and better multi kill trades since each player on that team has massive frag potential.
Stop talking like you know why NRG even lost or what was happening to them in the match. People really be thinking they got opinions yet dont know how to even spot a playstyle

in a tournament where yay and Marved played like the 2 best players in the world and where 2 of some of the greatest teams weve ever seen in valorant couldnt attend or were massively nerfed

crazy he has the same FDs as a duelist with 28 FKs

yea the game was trash, i think ppl that say otherwise clearly are watching for flicks and updrafts and no scopes

my guy thinks its a real question

This is the worst game of all time, I hate watching this group all competing to throw harder

saying a team that are throwing extremely hard are having a life game and somehow your team still losing is insane cope

tf do you mean should have won? They won the rounds that navi threw it wasnt actually close when you look at what loud are actually doing

WHY ARE YOU SO CRINGE

its either saving strats or theyre genuinely stupid

blud isnt even trying to win playing like that, trash comps, trash plays, insane throws

blud has never seen a navi game in his life