10: tenz
9: f0rsaken
8: ardiis
7: derke
6:aspas
5: sacy
4: alfa
3:leo
2: chron
1: yay
He is only overrated for the number 1 spot, he's undeniably top 10 of all time
ardiis is like 21-35.
tenz is like 13-19
sacy, yay should be lower
the rest is good enough
Ardiis is underrated af like he is acc top 10 and is better than f0rsaken
ik he is hella underrated due to him being viewed as a streamer/fat guy. but he isnt even that high br
mickey mouse Madrid and dinosaur era trophies dont affect his ranking much.
also the main reason he is 13-19 is cuz he was irrelevant in 2022-2023+2024Shanghai and is retired now. nats, Chron, and arguably cNed were better than him in 2021. 6-7 players were better than him in 2024.
the main thing going for him is he was the first tournament MVP and he showed how ppl should play Jett play along with cNed in 2021.
his entire team was irrelevant during that time that doesn't mean he was bad or something.
aspas and derke both are struggling because of bad teams so we stop counting them as top 2 oat?? LMFAO
lets stop perma ragebaiting Mr. sentinelmain377
aspas and derke both are struggling because of bad teams so we stop counting them as top 2 oat?? LMFAO
1st, Chronicle is the GOAT (top 1 oat) rn. Idk why u ppl suddenly have memory loss when it's an EMEA player.
2nd, it's only been a few months for aspas/derke's bad days (even though Derke was the best duelist at Bangkok this year and got top 4 - but u already forgot that since it's EMEA). for TenZ's bad days, it was 2 whole years.
i meant top 2 duelist oat. shouldn't be that tough to understand but anyways
have u even seen sen from that time?? absolute shit. its like if its tenz yall expect him to perma carry his team to internationals and win something like what lmao. it wasn't tenz who was bad in that time, it was sentinels
it wasn't tenz who was bad in that time, it was sentinels
this is a case of "I'm biased." You can make that argument for 90% of tier 1 players to rank em higher. also TenZ chose to stay on SEN from 2022-2023 btw (either he got the bag/he wanted to play with those teammates).
ehhh this list has issues with me because your ranking some off primes and some off longevity
ur the type of person to easily get influenced (u just think of the meme version of him as a streamer/fat guy)
fyi, he was top 5 and top 10 stats in EMEA 2024 Kickoff + Stage 1 (before d00mbr0s left NAVI) - this was only a year ago btw
he was an insane player from 2020-2022 and had good moments in 2023 with NRG (getting to all 3 internationals, good placements overall).
ardiis having a trophy is more valid than quite a few other players that do
hard not to think of him as a meme when he himself thinks of himself as that way and has bought into it for 2 years, also the trophy was objectively the most forgotten
hard not to think of him as a meme when he himself thinks of himself as that way
doesnt mean he is a player that didnt deserve his trophy.
the trophy was objectively the most forgotten?
when did that matter + there are so many PRX fans that know about that final (so it is likely not).
also Copenhagen is prob the most entertaining tournament of all time objectively + FPX is the first and only team to do a full lower bracket run into trophy win. but ur likely a fan that started watching late 2023 or 2024, so what would u know?
when the fuck did I say he didn't deserve his trophy?
also ask most people what the most underrated tournament was and they would say copenhagen because it is mostly swept under the rug even with its banger moments.
no need to be a passionate prick bro.
the fact that ardiis actually has a trophy is still wild to me
what does this mean other than "ardiis doesn't deserve a trophy/shouldn't have one"
it could mean that i was simply surprised with how forgotten his trophy was or that I just simply couldn't believe that he and himself in 2022 are the same guy. That doesn't mean im trying to take away his achievement. If I felt the need to disregard his trophy I would have said he didn't deserve it, but he won that trophy just like all other trophy winners.
you're braindead for somehow twisting my words to fit some imagined narrative of your own but hey thats what vlr does best I guess.
also ask most people what the most underrated tournament was and they would say copenhagen because it is mostly swept under the rug even with its banger moments.
yeah les ask people who didnt even watch back in 2022 🤣🤣🤣. people who have watched since back then will definitely have copenhagen within their top 1-4
the thing is that most people don't go back and rewatch full tournaments, hence why recency bias is a major factor in a lot of people's opinions. Just look at how many people are shocked with how godly suygetsu is playing rn
he was literally eating up your favourite players during his prime (yes pun intended), fym wild
??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? chronicle not in top 1?
real top 3:
rest dont matter