i cant defend us anymore

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secksyy

How is EMEA still so ass? We're back to FNC being our only good team? What has happened.
Our tier 1 is stale. Our tier 2 is ass: We're the only region not to have an ascension team even make playoffs.

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nice W pacific spy keep it up lower their morale

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secksyy

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Hai comrade, glory be

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both emea asc teams are basically different teams (or in m8's case, completely dismantled) from what they ascended with, so ig unsurprising, asc teams in other regions usually just got like 1/2 changes

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I’m sure it doesn’t help that probably 90%+ of EUs FPS talent worships counterstrike instead. And it’s fair to say EU is giga nerfed. Literally every Toronto team is already shafted because of the map pool change and tejo nerf. And emea has less than half the prep time (when accounting for travel, ewc etc). And TL doesn’t have their IGL/best player. Imagine Sen trying to do something at Toronto with tenz(much better player than penny) filling in for johnqt, they’d probably get grouped too. Losing your IGL and star player is like having 2 fill-ins ngl. Lowkey sad that BLG let TL win a map.

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Heretics were supposed to be our saviors, and they completely let us down.

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Honestly, I just need a western win. Regional parity for the win. I won’t be able to cope anymore if apac/china win 4 in a row. Sen/g2/mibr/fnc/th are who I’m rooting for.

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FNC and TH were hardly using Tejo to begin with and Sunset is supposed to be one of TH's best maps. If anything these changes benefit EMEA considering how much more Americas, RRQ, and XLG utilized Tejo comps

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We had a lot of tech issues and we finished WAY after everyone else, non existent competitive integrity.

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emea busy making moneys in CS to get talent for valorant

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EMEA only good when they have more international slots like CS and early valo days. Give asia (pacific & CN) equal international slot, we own you guys.

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tf u mean equal international slots. Everyone sent the same amount of teams?

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it is now, but not back pre partnership days.

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CN have only just become decent. They would be feeder slots if they had more teams back then.
Pacific was basically just the DRX show.

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Pacific was basically just the DRX show

Cause back then KR was restricted to 1 international slot. It takes a Nuturn and 2 KR slot F4Q to get another korean teams into internationals. Munchkin had to move to JP to make internationals and XETA have to move to US.

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secksyy

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well yeah its 1 country, duh.

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That's how Optic and SEN manage to get their international trophy in the past, by having more international slots. Now we see it in GenG and T1 since korea finally got more slots. Meteor would never won 2 titles without moving to JP Northeption roster to get international experience.

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you're comparing one country to a whole region

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how on earth would t3xture/meteor/Munchkin get any international experience? T3xture's talent was buried in Damwon/Dplus, would never see Karon either if VS/DRX keeps taking the 1 international slot.

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by being the best?

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C9 Korea tried, TNL tried, but only Nuturn manage to break VS 100 wins record. F4Q manage to maker internationals cause there were 1 instance where KR was given 2 internationals. East Asia LCQ for champs is the only chance for KR teams to make internationals without facing VS/DRX.

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secksyy

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the guy is bonkers. imagine if I complained that Russia didn't have enough slots.

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I'm slowly unable to defend TH anymore tbh so ik what you mean.

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secksyy

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emea has this phenomenon where we have great teams, (2024 TH, KC, Vit early on) that start at their peak and just fall off, some slower than others.

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yeah I thought they'd gain the experience in 2025. I like the role pick they had with wo0t playing astra. But honestly, Miniboo was disappointing me. Bro went back to being a doodoouelist.

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apac and china are scouting really nice CIS players like something, jemkin, rarga, kr1stal, v00kashu,dos9 etc. EMEA should have gotten these players but they missed their opportunity

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this. meanwhile the actual EMEA teams scouted kamo, purp0, and click. lol so unserious

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Respect roblox cs to valorant pipeline

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secksyy

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lmfao which one was a roblox cs player

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kamo

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soonwookong

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what a god

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ru visa to play in emea 🥀

BBL signed chiwa and STILL aren't able to play with him...he's been loaned to play in T2 😭

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Probably not really a loan they just gave up on 5he whole ordeal I think

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soonwookong

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true - vct emea in turkey??? serbia???

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MEMEA KEKW

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Galactc

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It turns out prac time maters who knew

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emea is still good, if anything its improved from last year.

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secksyy

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sure, we're slightly worse than ass now.
1.5 team region.

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peemea always been ass max of 2 good teams per yr lolol

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secksyy

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one day an australian will be good at videogames, maybe even multiple australians

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peemea so ahh that you had to change the topic to oce lmao

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secksyy

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im well aware emea is shit. that is the point of the thread.
im just well aware that oce is shitter

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Tempest24

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true there's like 6 good oce players

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Tempest24

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but also that's like comparing ligue 1 teams to Indian super league teams

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i guess theres also not an fps history in oce either? at least not one i've heard of.
you didn't get the opportunity the rest of us got to recycle washed CS pros

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considering TL looked good with 2 good players and 3 jobbers and visa bullshit cuz of how late the playoffs ended cut one of those two players, it's fine

there's plenty of talent in EMEA. The orgs are just fucking trolling at bringing it together. Our "superteam" candidate didn't even buy a fucking igl for fuck's sake.

I also think there's a bit of a dirge of good coaching staff outside of pretty much exactly FNC and TL right now. At some point some of these orgs are gonna have to accept the coaches they've kept on for long term ARE the problem.

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yeah, it really feels like we're a lot less cutthroat than other regions. We're so slow to change