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darkhorse for 2023 vct?

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#1
69donut420

which team that we havent seen in 2021/2022 do you think will perform really well in the 2023 vct season?

#2
Kiklop
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Vitality, ge

#70
Flyjin
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Honestly, because so many people are saying GE I actually think GE will underperform compared to expectations

I think GenG TLN Zeta will do better, PRX T1 will flop

Just some random ass predictions

#71
HockeyStick
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Ge is a roster that will either be top 4 automatically or getting their arse beaten by everyone. It is a hit or miss

#74
Flyjin
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I had low hopes for ayrin because he's bringing NA culture, but MAYBE, JUST MAYBE the team can work miracles

#3
WeebsLVL250
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Global esport

#4
TSM_Shreyash
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GE
hopium

#5
Gutssz
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AMERICAS - LEV
EMEA - VIT

#66
sentinelmain377
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W

#6
kiyuri
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T1

#7
TOXICGAS
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LEV, VIT, SEN, GE

#55
-mercury-
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nah ppl r expecting from sen with their huge fanbase lol

#8
trola
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Definitely KOI.

#9
rosso4000
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koi giants ges lev imo

#10
angelmrm
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Dark houses, heretics,no one expects heretics been in a top 5 EMEA

#11
firo
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giants, talon, loud

#12
Symphony
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RRQ

#13
Guy_who_fucked_ur_mom
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Asia- GE
100T
Koi

#14
patuj
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Vitality and Giants

people are sleeping on these squads. Vitality makes sense because more unknown players, but people still put no respect on Molsi's or Twisten's name and even ceNder was/is really overlooked when talking about tier 2 talent.

and its crazy to me that people don't talk about Giants much at all while having players like nukkye, Cloud and hoody. That trio is really good and even proven on paper and add Fit1nho and Rhyme who have a lot of potential and this roster is really good on paper IMO. Cloud is one of the most slept on players in EMEA.

#50
Pengu12
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Bro people who have never watched a NAVI game saw cloud underperform for a couple of games in a row and assumed he was dog

#54
patuj
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Yeah sad because Cloud is insane. Really good on his main role (initiator) but can also flex to entry raze or kayo or whatever you need from him. He is like Shao Jr. If he gets comfortable on Giants (looked bit uncomfortable in G loot) he will def be player people are going to talk about after this season.

#15
number1_cNed_fan
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KOI, Giants, TH for EMEA

#16
BoF7ooM
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Asia- RRQ
EMEA- FUT and BBL
Americas- MIBR and KRU

#17
DrudaL
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giants

#18
OzyMeister
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GE provided LF isn't in playing 5

#34
Ggez78888
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True man's hella inconsistent.

#19
Dybala21
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I know it's early here's my opinion for each franchise league:

America: KRU(Still trust they can repeat their Champions 2021 form),Loud ( Excited for their new player)
EMEA: Heretics( Zeek redemption arc), Karmine Corp ( French revolution pogchamp)
Pacific: Detonation ( Just because of Xnfri and Seoldam), T1 ( Saya's year)

#35
Ggez78888
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Detonation just cuz of 2 good players, and there's GE with 7 cracked players 💀

#51
Pengu12
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*5

#67
Ggez78888
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Okay 💀

#20
nutab1e
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FURIA, TALON

#21
masterX
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Parla no doubt

#25
Mortadelo
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Vct

#41
masterX
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vct is include ascension even split league lmao

#45
Mortadelo
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Nope, VCT is how the tier 1 is called, VRL is how the tier 2 is called. Riot specifically refers to the VCT league as the tier 1 one every time they mention it

#48
masterX
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bruh I know differences between VRL and VCT but ascension and split is VCT lol

#52
Mortadelo
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But the team that ascends is gonna teach the league in 2024 my dude

#49
masterX
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i think u don't really knows about VRL and I don't know why u think ascension and split is VRL

#53
Mortadelo
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Ascension is just ascension, it’s not VRL not VCT, and either case, Ascension would bring a team into VCT for the year after, not this one

#59
masterX
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So why u mention VRL on this commenr? why is your understanding so low, just search vct 2023 series on liquipedia or vlr and you will know what are the vct tournaments series. Simple way VCT are include tier 1(franchise,master) and 2 tournaments(split,ascension). why it's so hard for you to admit it

#64
Mortadelo
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I mention VRL because that's what Parla is gonna be playing next year dude. And no, I do not understand what you're trying to say dude. Fokus can't get into tier 1 until 2024, and if what you're counting it's Ascension then sure, but then you can't be a dark horse if you're not playing big tournaments to upset teams. Anyway, it's just a technicality

#22
Blaezey
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Vitality, KC, and kru all look like slept on competition and can all get top 8 at Brazil.

#23
kallenkzk
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Easily KOI

#24
Zapkhiel
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koi, vitality, giants

#26
Warlordwibz
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T1

#27
burritx
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Furia

#28
homeworkW
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eg

#29
An_dH
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SEN
everybody makes fun of them, while they have 2 champion players, young blood duelist, goated igl, your favourite streamer, and sick as sixth

#30
Clayy
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RRQ👑

#31
Dokka
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KOI Giants leviatan and T1

#33
afflict3d
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koi t1 dfm giants eg

#36
Kezyyz
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VIT T1 GIANTS EG TL

#37
MerkFreeks
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KOI GE LEV T1 VIT

#38
Zaba
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Idk why people saying lev will be dark horse. I think they are top 3 (firepower + best coach itw) in americas league.

#39
HockeyStick
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Apac -

  1. Insane hopium but if texture and bazzi get comfortable with others and Ayrin handles them well , I see no reason why GE isnt a dark horse with goated coaching staff and insanely cracked aimers. Apart from prx drx they can beat anyone that i have seen ( no idea about some suprise overwatch player that korea can bring)

  2. RRQ can beat team secret and korean and japanese overhyped brats

Emea
Idk much but
1) Vitality
2) KOI

America
1) EG
2)Loud ( laughable how people have started seeing them as d tier now ) they will group nrg and co easily ( fns without yaya and yay without fns fails)

#44
masterX
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Parla the real dark horse from emea

#61
HockeyStick
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In assension yes

#63
masterX
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Ascension is vct also

#72
HockeyStick
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I gave only franchised ones as it would mess up this list + literally saw no other good emea assension teams so how dark horse if they are running almost alone ?

#40
my_fav_team_is_M3C
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KC top4 EMEA

#42
masterX
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why everyone just mention team that play on franchise league, remember VCT is include challenger and ascension also

#43
Luck_
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GOATSKI + AYRIN
and friends

#46
OnlyOneStar
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We will see so many upsets

#47
DELUSIONAL_POTTER_FAN
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eg

#56
Just_1uck
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Giants

#57
r1zz
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pacific: GE

#58
Prontera
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KOI, Vitality, and Karmine corp
GE
Sentinels, EG & MiBR

#60
No_1_Asuna_Lover
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Funny how y'all delusional freaks think that GE is going any higher than #30 lmao

#62
HockeyStick
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Soulstalker alt ? First comment you made on this site is this that too an old thread?

#65
Botkiller69
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GE if skrossi not playing

#68
hansk588
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surely GE will qualify with 4 jett mains on their main roster

#69
Aristia
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MIBR Hopium

#73
autxmn
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Argh Argh Queue

#75
Kk0bra
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I think furia and giants have a shot

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