NA Group Stage (As of right now)

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Dokka

OpTic Gaming - ‘Masters’ ‘world’ champions
The Guard - Previous NA Challengers winner,
C9 - Considered Best NA start of Challengers 1
NRG - Revamped roster, flawless open qualifier run, beat V1 (Let’s go W Streamer)
Faze - Rebuilt roster makes their grand return to top tier NA Valorant
XSET - Fourth place war lords, Cyro demon (I’m sorry I forgot ;(((((()

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kristof

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optic is not world champion

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Dokka

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Brap

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OK

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sheahhhh

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they won a tournament with every region, so yes trhey are

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ItsMeDio

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No
Master winner
World champions title goes to acend (although Gambit deserved)

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sheahhhh

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nah they beat the world so they are the champs of the world

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kristof

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lmao gambit dont deserve shit
maybe if they learn how to play

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downtime99

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so how do you define world champion? do they have to win champions? if so, do you think the team who won champions is the best in the world? if yes, i guess you think acend is still world champion despite dropping 2/5 players and not qualifying for masters?

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kristof

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yes, yes and yes.

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downtime99

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i left one out. do you think world champion means best in the world? if not, the title is meaningless.

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kristof

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yes ofc
is this a troll question?

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downtime99

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yes, that was a troll question. bait, actually. what evidence do you have that current acend is best in the world? after failing to qualify for masters and replacing two players, what makes you think current acend is best in the world?

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kristof

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they are still the world champions of 2021.
the 2022 world champion will be named after this years champions.
until that acend is the only champion we have

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downtime99

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that's true. if you meant that acend are 2021 world champions and optic are not, then you're right. but optic just won the title of 2022 best team in the world until someone takes it. which title do you think matters most? champions is a word, don't dwell on semantics.

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Fr1tZ

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u forgot xset

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chloeburbank

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lmaooo its soo funny how forgetable XSET is

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Nollihd

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Optic is masters winner
World champions is Acend

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Ashh

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sorry man they lost that once they failed to qualify and the roster changes

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Nollihd

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That doesn’t matter
They have won champions so they are current champions

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andrewdamf

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xset best NA team

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StormX

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world champion?

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LifeIsALie

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World champion? EMEA had their no 1 seed missing and fnatic has 2 subs
no way they are the world champion
i wud rank them world no . 3 as of rn

FPX (just cuz emea 1)
LOUD (they need more practice)

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downtime99

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being EMEA no 1 seed loses weight considering the EMEA representatives went 7-11 in masters

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LifeIsALie

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what an absolute retard take

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downtime99

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great argument +1

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kushcash0331

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Sped take having LOUD over Optic

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LifeIsALie

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nah kekw LOUD has been together for less than 2 months while optic has been the same since berlin
LOUD> Optic with enough practice