Best ult in the game

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A1pha1
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Is it the neon ult now? I feel like neon ult 5v5 retake is almost a guarenteed win everytime with how good pro neons are rn. Other candidates are Viper ult (best postplant ult imo), kj lockdown and phx ult. But I wouldnt personally count phx ult because phx wouldnt be played in pro level if ult costed 8 or 9 orbs so it shows it isnt necessarily the best ult in the game

#2
FNSaimcoach9
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yes its pretty much impossible to kill neon in her ult

#3
Pototo
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breach ult is pretty good no?
atleast before the nerf it was

#4
A1pha1
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It is probably the best ult in ranked below inmortal but in pro level other ults are much better. For example, kj ult is guarenteed bombsite but breach ult isnt necessarily, there might be guys in the smoke with shotguns, pros hit hs even stunned in like 30-40% of the time anyway. I would argue even Fade ult is better cuz you get info+more combos with no sound + 2 body shot kill.

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Pototo
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hmmm... what about tejo ult then... if u have nowhere to run... ur fucked... 100% death .... also it covers soo much more area than brim ult or raze ult

#7
A1pha1
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It is easy to dodge tho and it doesnt guarantee space like KJ ult does.
Your point about brim ult is kinda wrong tho because brim ult is much better at postplants vompared to tejo ult.

#8
Pototo
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at postplant brim ult is pretty much the sameee.... plus tejo ult covers more area and it has noway to be dodged if ur trapped

#13
A1pha1
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Mechanically it isnt tho. Brim ult wastes much more time compare to techo ult. If you try to do the same with tejo ult, opponent ciuld get half, get off and defuse again. But with brim ult + molly it is pretty much like 15s gone off spike.

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Soddalele
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my view on neon is very different wether ur talking about pro play or regular ranked.

for ranked u could legit put in 20-50 hours learning quite decent neon movement.
but learning to aim well enaugh to deal with neon is prolly ATLEAST 10-20x as much time

only neon players disagree with this statement

problem is that if u try to fix neon for ranked like making sliding accuracy be just like moving accuracy, i think u absolutely demolish her for pro play

#9
3ASh
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The solution is to delete her from the game but that’s not happening

#10
Soddalele
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i agree with u 100% ive hated the agent since release just because it doesnt fit in the game.

#11
3ASh
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Idk I’m not even a neon player and I was being a gremlin with an attack judge before the movement nerf. Now I just buy judge a lot more on defense against neon, because I don’t play her myself much

#12
he4venn
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'24 neon was her most op state so why wasn't she dominant in pro play before like she is now

#14
Soddalele
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honestly i think is has something to do with the "old guard" aswell, up to neon buff, players just didnt like the agent at all.

if u remember after the neon buff it was players like dambi that actually made alot of teams realize how fucking broken she could be in the right hands

#15
he4venn
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i think the sentis were just too strong for neon to work tbh one cypher trip with the insta reveal and was all she needed to get shut down

#16
Soddalele
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there was always ways to deal with cypher trips tho, scatter nades or shocks

#17
he4venn
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i just think that the tenz update allowed neon to work as she is now unlike in the past years where we saw her being used little to not at all

#18
Soddalele
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yea 100% but one of the things about neon fundamentally is that she beats timings and alot of the time can just run passed most utility like breach stun/fade seize/kj utility.

also the raze satchel nerf made her much more viable, i still hate that nerf ngl

#19
Useless_Miks_Ult
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defo not Miks

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