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#1
Nigellomeister
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hes been consistently the 60%+ picked controller across the years except for astra meta

give your ideas to nerf him or buff his competitors

#2
arcticskyy
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this is for nerfs

as an omen main i think nerfing him too much would just kill him because the problem isnt the strength of individual abilities (sorry paranoia haters) but the variety of his kit as a whole
shrouded step: 1.5x audio cue volume from tp location, new 0.1x-0.25x volume cue at tp destination
paranoia: ok, maybe increase cast time a bit so it isn’t an instant blind. possibly increase gun equip speed after
dark cover: bloom time +0.1s, distance increase speed tuned down a bit
from the shadows: ok

all of these together would def make him feel clunky af so just give him one or two of these changes maybe, but the solution is just buff other smokers

#4
Nigellomeister
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what do you think of making paranoia having to be charged like breach stun

#5
arcticskyy
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actually thats quite a cool change id welcome it
0-1s range, extend by width then length (i.e 0.5s to charge full y-width, 0.5s to charge full x-length in order)
because just charging length alone is boring and this retains the idea of being able to blind immediately in front of yourself but take a bit longer to do those execute-delaying blinds

#15
Pengu12
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For paranoia remove the deafen

#19
arcticskyy
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but it has to be consistent with other blinds in the game (reyna eye, fade prowler)

#22
Pengu12
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Not really, out of those 3 paranoia is the only one with 0 counter play

#3
WjFROST
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Omen is fine as he is

Give Viper more pioson duration (biased because i play her) and maybe 2 mollies but with half the duration of her current one

Lower Astra's util cost (optional) and have her util activate faster

Brim is fine as he is

Give Clove back the 100 overheal and buff her smokes after death, rework her meddle so it becomes more viable to use

Buff everything for Miks atp, make the first charges of his stun/heal unbreakable and then make it have higher HP for the remaining charges, rework his buffing ability so it maybe impacts more allies. Maybe make it AOE but with him as the anchor point. Buff his ult so where enemies are flashed as soon as it hits but only for a short duration and then make then have the stun effect aswell. Also please for the the love of god change his smoke colors they look like vomit

Harbor is fine as he is

#6
arcticskyy
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maybe instead of giving viper more poison duration make the charge time faster
walls stay up for the same time so you cant just lock off everything instantly but after going to 0 you still have another full bar for the execute/anchor

astra util instant activate is nice
there’s an alternative which is switching between 2 target modes: default stars everywhere and you pick which ability to bloom by aiming and pressing CQE, or a new mode where you can pre-set what star should be what (good for anchoring) and then not have to look at it to activate it other than E (so C and Q can be used like vyse Es)

brim good maybe make the stim beacon last a little longer for funny

clove should still have 50 overheal as 100 is too forgiving and she can just wkey if aim good all the way into ct
smokes should last longer, targetting circle should be wider. i feel very sad when i see cloves having to play mid every round
smoke after death now doesnt have visibility in the smoke (brim smokes) and get +2s duration

miks sounds good i have no opinions on him

harbour good too maybe make reckoning reveal enemies that get hit/go through similar to how old harbour ult did. also no more slow for allies

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Nigellomeister
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instead of more poison duration, im thinking of making her able to pick up orb again, 2 mollies with half the duration idk about that

astra brim harbor agree

im good with the miks changes as well

#12
Tax_evader
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viper does not compete with omen, she competes with the sentinel role. buffing viper would only result to the double controller meta with omen + viper.

#7
MrBlooBloom
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i don't care

#11
Nigellomeister
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cared enough to comment

#18
MrBlooBloom
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oooh that's smart

#8
TentacleThing
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The problem with Omen is that he's probably the best designed agent in the game. Like he just feels so perfect as a controller and makes it hard for the other controllers to compete with him unless he's giga nerfed or the other controllers are buffed making them broken.

#13
Nigellomeister
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i think it's as simple as omen kit being fast and flexible (paranoia instant activation) compared to his competitors inflexible and slow kit (astra and miks shitty stun, clove ranked agent, etc.)

#9
W1ngFly
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Or how about, we don't nerf Omen

#14
Nigellomeister
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then buff his competitors, which riot won't do

#20
W1ngFly
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Oh no, he's just my main that's why I like it as is
But on a serious note Riot should buff the other controllers, especially Miks
They won't buff Clove because Clove was designed as a ranked agent, buffing Astra would shift into a double-smokes meta and Miks is just bad right now

#16
LowGun
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Omen is perfect as he is.

Brim.
needs rechargeable smokes (capped at only 1 refresh). Longer stim duration or cut short the duration and have an extra one.

Astra.
needs lower refresh rate on util for sure. Recharge her stars faster.

Miks.
First rework or buff the useless ass ult. His stim needs an extra charge. Stun needs to be more effective where it isnt as easy to break.

Clove.
One more meddle which helps is execute very much. Smokes could be a bit more longer.

#17
Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one
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Nerfing Omen post coming right up
As for the word of "buff others dont nerf"
Then we would just see a double controller meta on every map

#21
LowGun
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I mean not necessarily.
This years meta is the way it is because rit0 decided to nerf the shit outta sentis enabling double duelist comps. And the 60s cooldown for inis was such a L move.
we could see a balance if they buff the controllers & sentis a bit, make the ini cooldown at 45s. Like next year we could see a variety of comps with those changes (i think)

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