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And why is it Aspas?

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its zekken

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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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if fnc had zekken instead of k00j0k, they wouldve won all 3 trophies
just saying

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how many grand finals was zekken in in 2025? actually, how many international playoffs was he in?

k00j0k was rookie of the year btw, and many consider him player of the year too. you dont know ball

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how many he won ? no one give a fk abt 2nd
atleast zekken won i dont think kaajak can win now hes time is gone

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z0kk0n

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how masters does kajaak have again?

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you just asked the same question as the other idiot

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Kaajak was 2025 player of the year. can't agree with u on this one.

Although current Kaajak (2026) is ass compared to current or prime Zekken

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no one give a fk abt ur prime if u cant win some thing

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but FNC with zekken doesnt win the grand finals

Zekken in 2025 was worse than Kaajak in 2025.

u make no sense gng

also that "no one" is just you and casuals bro

we are chronically online vct watchers

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idiot take lowkey

that only goes for larpers who dont watch vct

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idiot take but if zekken is worse then kaajak then why didnt kaajak win ?

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gotta go back to school man ts is worrying

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https://www.vlr.gg/660378/mibr-vs-100-thieves-vct-2026-americas-stage-1-lr2

Z0kk0n kekw 🤣

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all of aspas' kills were from exits btw

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more fb than aspas while not even baiting

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https://www.vlr.gg/312779/gen-g-vs-sentinels-champions-tour-2024-masters-madrid-gf

****

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https://www.vlr.gg/312779/gen-g-vs-sentinels-champions-tour-2024-masters-madrid-gf

champion

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mickey mouse clubhouse kickoff tournament 500k mickey prize pool

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talking abt money in Esport

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ASUNA CLEARS THIS FRAUD

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what colour asuna trophy is ?

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superteam kekw

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true

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objectively it's Zekken

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https://www.vlr.gg/660378/mibr-vs-100-thieves-vct-2026-americas-stage-1-lr2

Zekken’s last game btw

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you’re invalidating his entire career just off one game?

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i think hes sen fan

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Saka

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it’s still aspas btw, revisionism won’t change the fact he’s been insane for the majority of his career

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its been 5 years and hes still better then ur fav duelist
u hate him coz he owns ur fav team
now yll gonna show hes recent performance like he didnt owns them for last 5 years
ur shiiit duelist cant even stey on tier 1 for 5 year

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he's defending him 😭

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no one need to defend "him"

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I am literally defending him moron

Aspas getting mogged by asuna really did a number on you huh

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Aspas is too inconsistent though to be saying he has been "insane for majority of his career"

he has always been irrelevant early-mid year except 22 and 23

irrelevant in 2021

Aspas relevancy: Early 2022, Late 2022, Early 2023, Late 2023, Late 2024, Late 2025
Derke relevancy: Early 2021, Late 2021, Mid 2022, Late 2022, Early 2023, Mid 2023, Late 2023, Late 2024, Early 2025, Mid 2026

also:

DERKE:

Derke has qualified/attended 12/18 Global Events
- Reykjavik 2021, Champs Berlin 2021, Reykjavik 2022(Derke had covid), Copenhagen 2022, Istanbul 2022, Sao Paulo 2023, Tokyo 2023, Los Angeles 2023, Shanghai 2024, Seoul 2024, Bangkok 2025, London 2026
Derke placements:
2nd, 5th-8th, 4th, 5th-6th, 1st, 1st, 4th, 7th-8th, 5th-6th, 4th
- top 8 placements: 10/10
- top 4 placements: 6/10
- top 2 placements: 3/10 (3 Grand Finals)
- top 1 placements: 2/10 (2 Trophies)
Derke stats:
- 1.06 (#14), 1.28 (#1), 1.09 (#18), 1.22 (#4), 1.13 (#10 | min. 125 rounds LOCK//IN), 1.08 (#15), 1.04 (#29), 258.5 ACS (#1 | China so no ratings), 1.22 (#2), 1.18 (#4)
- Derke: top 10 stats for 6 tournaments
- Derke: top 20 stats in 9 tournaments

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ASPAS:

Aspas has qualified/attended 10/18 Global Events
- Reykjavik 2022, Copenhagen 2022, Istanbul 2022, Sao Paulo 2023, Tokyo 2023, Los Angeles 2023, Shanghai 2024, Seoul 2024, Toronto 2025, Paris 2025
Aspas placements:
- 2nd, 11th-12th, 1st, 2nd, 7th-8th, 3rd, 9th-10th, 3rd, 11th-12th, 5th-6th
- top 8 placements: 7/10
- top 4 placements: 5/10
- top 2 placements: 3/10 (3 Grand Finals)
- top 1 placements: 1/10 (1 Trophy)
Aspas stats:
- 1.18 (#4), 1.04 (#25), 0.99 (#39), 1.11 (#13 | min. 125 rounds LOCK//IN), 1.11 (#10), 1.15 (#8), 237.8 ACS (#6 | China so no ratings), 1.14 (#11), 0.53 (#59), 1.33 (#1)
- Aspas: top 10 stats for 5 tournaments
- Aspas: top 20 stats for 7 tournaments

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aspas has always been relevant because he is who most of the community holds the duelist standard to (which is where your bait falls flat, because stats aren’t everything despite you needing them to make your case)

aspas is always talked about in comparisons with other duelists every year, because he IS the golden standard; he has both longevity and the high peaks, as well as good performances and placements

it doesn’t matter if derke has performed better than aspas all time, aspas has the standard. derke does not, and that’s why he is not above aspas.

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Americas popularity + propaganda is why he feels more relevant

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then perhaps the community should do better in spreading derke propaganda then

no one cares about your stats copypasta lmao, that’s why no one cares abt derke

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Idc if no one cares abt derke.

I only care about the truth lmao.

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And the truth is aspas is above him

Keep talking to the void, my friend

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aspas with 3 org and all 3 is shit and derke with the best org of all time and he cant do shit without fnc - or maybe without boaster

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Derke solo carried VIT to Bangkok top 4 but ok???

Not his fault Trexx decided to be a dumass

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after that ?
aspas did thid for 3 year now he miss 2 in row

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Derke made it to London
Aspas didnt

DERKE:

Derke has qualified/attended 12/18 Global Events
- Reykjavik 2021, Champs Berlin 2021, Reykjavik 2022(Derke had covid), Copenhagen 2022, Istanbul 2022, Sao Paulo 2023, Tokyo 2023, Los Angeles 2023, Shanghai 2024, Seoul 2024, Bangkok 2025, London 2026
Derke placements:
2nd, 5th-8th, 4th, 5th-6th, 1st, 1st, 4th, 7th-8th, 5th-6th, 4th
- top 8 placements: 10/10
- top 4 placements: 6/10
- top 2 placements: 3/10 (3 Grand Finals)
- top 1 placements: 2/10 (2 Trophies)
Derke stats:
- 1.06 (#14), 1.28 (#1), 1.09 (#18), 1.22 (#4), 1.13 (#10 | min. 125 rounds LOCK//IN), 1.08 (#15), 1.04 (#29), 258.5 ACS (#1 | China so no ratings), 1.22 (#2), 1.18 (#4)
- Derke: top 10 stats for 6 tournaments
- Derke: top 20 stats in 9 tournaments

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ASPAS:

Aspas has qualified/attended 10/18 Global Events
- Reykjavik 2022, Copenhagen 2022, Istanbul 2022, Sao Paulo 2023, Tokyo 2023, Los Angeles 2023, Shanghai 2024, Seoul 2024, Toronto 2025, Paris 2025
Aspas placements:
- 2nd, 11th-12th, 1st, 2nd, 7th-8th, 3rd, 9th-10th, 3rd, 11th-12th, 5th-6th
- top 8 placements: 7/10
- top 4 placements: 5/10
- top 2 placements: 3/10 (3 Grand Finals)
- top 1 placements: 1/10 (1 Trophy)
Aspas stats:
- 1.18 (#4), 1.04 (#25), 0.99 (#39), 1.11 (#13 | min. 125 rounds LOCK//IN), 1.11 (#10), 1.15 (#8), 237.8 ACS (#6 | China so no ratings), 1.14 (#11), 0.53 (#59), 1.33 (#1)
- Aspas: top 10 stats for 5 tournaments
- Aspas: top 20 stats for 7 tournaments

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now he made it with cron and sayo not with tex

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Aspas has Zekken and Mazino on his team (2 of the greatest players in Americas all time). And Verno is good.

Vitality has Pr0f0k

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https://www.vlr.gg/248282/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-lr3
last time aspas vs de0k0

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Mini said in interview that they had a bad map pool against LOUD

continue thread →

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in emea vs mibr who play against g2 lev nrg etc

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MIBR lost to 100trollers, Leviatan, Envy, Cloud9

bot team

this stage, Vitality lost to BBL (kickoff winners), EF (turkish flukers), FNATIC (goated when they had veqaj), and TH (best emea team)

continue thread →

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Derke is the real best duelist player & entry of all time.
cNed and TenZ are the innovators.
Aspas just has better aim (and baits for kills)

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fns on jett

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a total of 4 duelists played in the last MIBR match, I wonder how each of them did. I'm assuming Aspas/Zekken wiped the floor right...?

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Wo0t and koshmaras

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derke?

The greatest duelist of all time

champion