Not based in kills necessarily but performances, consistency and career growth.
In my case, Argentina:
- Klaus - KRÜ
- saadhak - Ex VKS / LOUD
- Nozwerr (nzr) - FUR
- Closer - Ex AUS / 6K
- puleule / UNNSTO - 9Z
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Syelf [#2]
- Heat - VK
- Aspas - Pancada e amigos
- Sacy - Pancada e amigos
- Pancada - Pancada e amigos
- Less - Pancada e amigos
finally, not mwzera
Syelf [#4]I think mwzera was the best before but he fell off unfortunately 😔
ngl he was looking really strong starting 2021 but he definitely didn't played to the expectations.
BIGGEST_VS_FAN [#13]nAts
Chronicle
Shao
Jady
trexx/cloud/sheydos/d3ffo/suygetsu idk actually
wdyt about braveaf
FERETON [#5]ngl he was looking really strong starting 2021 but he definitely didn't played to the expectations.
He did though, but 2020. I would still put him before Less
curlylmao [#12]Hard to say because of different roles, but I'll try
- Yay
- Asuna
- Leaf
- ShahZaM
- SicK/Crashies
HM: Ethan, Vanity, Xeppaa, Dapr
You mustve forgotten zombs
curlylmao [#12]Hard to say because of different roles, but I'll try
- Yay
- Asuna
- Leaf
- ShahZaM
- SicK/Crashies
HM: Ethan, Vanity, Xeppaa, Dapr
Not including tenz, wow not at all biased 😂
Syelf [#2]
- Heat - VK
- Aspas - Pancada e amigos
- Sacy - Pancada e amigos
- Pancada - Pancada e amigos
- Less - Pancada e amigos
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PrinceCharming [#47]
- Great northern, the go to
- Byron bay, when your feeling like something different
- Carlton, when neither above around
- VB, if it's free it's free and that the only time for it really
- xxxx gold, actually hurts to endure
Ohh wait you wanted players, when oce gets to play internationally I'll let you know
lol
Syelf [#2]
- Heat - VK
- Aspas - Pancada e amigos
- Sacy - Pancada e amigos
- Pancada - Pancada e amigos
- Less - Pancada e amigos
I wonder if you're a LOUD fan
BLJY [#53]
- SuperBusS
- SuperBusS
- SuperBusS
- SuperBusS
- SuperBusS
ok fr tho
- JohnOlsen
- PTC
- sushiboys
- Crws
- foxz/LAMMYSNAX
harriman [#51]
- Yay
- Crashies
- Leaf
- Supamen
- Zekken
I tried to make it not all duelist players so don't get mad
Ethan(?
meramoer [#56]L1NK
Soulcas
Boaster
Mistic
Russ
unpopular opinion I guess but I feel like dephh or ozzy could be over Russ
harriman [#50]I wonder if you're a LOUD fan
Lmao True man's didn't put saadhak there cuzz he ain't brasilian
FERETON [#49]so true, guy's been so humble even when he got to Reykjavik with VKS. He's just the nicest pro player we'll get in this community.
I love his streams he does a lil bit of trolling but mans is too funny
kwe [#71]I love his streams he does a lil bit of trolling but mans is too funny
I haven't seen his streams but I watched most of his interviews, even with hispanic streamers like Kam1 and various spanish community members. Maybe I'll go watch his streams when I see him live.
Fluffyy [#76]rhyme rhyme rhyme rhyme rhyme #bosniapride
rhyme is like the only bosnian player to make it far in VCT, must be like a superhero
curlylmao [#12]Hard to say because of different roles, but I'll try
- Yay
- Asuna
- Leaf
- ShahZaM
- SicK/Crashies
HM: Ethan, Vanity, Xeppaa, Dapr
ethan is better than asuna bro
FERETON [#77]rhyme is like the only bosnian player to make it far in VCT, must be like a superhero
no we got some pros lurking in vlr as well like ciromegalul , pr1tsy , shadow and more..
LouBag [#80]Good lists already for USA so I’ll make a top 5 non duelist.
1 Sick
2 Ethan
3 Crashies
4 Shahzam
5 Mitch (not sure if he is USA or Canadian)Hm: Dapr / Vanity / Supaman
Sick actually might be the best flex player
Mortadelo [#22]Kiles
Koldamenta
Mixwell
Fitinho
Quick/ Yuri/ Exerz (I want to say Lowel but I don’t even know atp)
Isn't Kiles ucranian?
I apologize for any spelling mistakes, my English is terrible
Brazil:
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Heat (Vivo Keyd) - Brazilian standout in the last international championships and for some the best Jett in the world. I don't even have words to describe him.
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Sacy (LOUD/Pancada e Amigos) - Like 'VK heat', it was featured in international championships, being very constant in the scenario and elected by the specialized sites here as the best player in the scenario (I prefer the heat)
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mwzera (Vivo Keyd) - Featured here since the beginning of the competition, he was always constant and special, he lacked an international championship to prove his worth and he arrived after being hired by Vivo Keyd. Now, after the Champions, I think everyone knows who he is and how good he is
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Xand (NIP) - Even though he was criticized a lot around here (exaggeratedly even) he was always at the top of the statisticians and performed very well. Perhaps the public's biggest regret is that he failed (like every FURIA team) at crucial moments that would have given the team the opportunity to compete in an international championship. Champions came and along with FURIA he gave a taste of the Brazilian Jett that left even TenZ a little confused hahaha
In the end FURIA didn't get very far and maybe even disappointed, but he finally managed to prove his worth. We'll see what he can do at NIP. -
Aspas (LOUD/Pancada e Amigos) - Rising star, 'aspas' has always haunted the Brazilian scene with his impressive performances in the rankeds. He has been accused of cheating since his appearance (some still believe he is a hacker). Now, in a large ORG and with a suitable team, he has already managed to prove his worth and was featured on the team in the qualifiers for VCT, being elected the highlight of the week by RIB.GG
Honorable mentions: murizzz (Vivo Keyd), gaabxx (Sharks), Jonn (NIP), prozin (Sharks), Shion (Liberty)
Giannero [#83]Isn't Kiles ucranian?
ukranian. https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VCT/2022/EMEA/Stage_1/Challengers scroll down until u see "Country Representation"
As1anM4shad0W [#91]ukranian. https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VCT/2022/EMEA/Stage_1/Challengers scroll down until u see "Country Representation"
https://youtu.be/XfTj_0R6Uzo That doesn’t look like an Ukrainian flag to me
s1nek [#87]50% Ucranian 50% spanish
Actually I’m pretty sure both of his parents are Ukrainian, but he lives in Spain since he was a little kid, speaks, steams and everything in Spanish. Also said that he would compete with the Spanish national team if he could.
Still he has double nationality obviously, and it would be right to put him on an Ukrainian top
Giannero [#83]Isn't Kiles ucranian?
Both, he was born there, but he lives in Spain since he was young
harriman [#51]
- Yay
- Crashies
- Leaf
- Supamen
- Zekken
I tried to make it not all duelist players so don't get mad
How is yay the first one of it’s non duelists? Leaf I get it, he flexes, but yay doesn’t
Mortadelo [#95]How is yay the first one of it’s non duelists? Leaf I get it, he flexes, but yay doesn’t
“not all” doesnt mean all of them are not duelists, it means that he may include duelists but not all 5 are duelists
VinceVioVN [#97]“not all” doesnt mean all of them are not duelists, it means that he may include duelists but not all 5 are duelists
And what’s the point of “not all, just some” what’s the criteria behind that?
Ensoski [#99]1- cNed
2- xistou
3- sterben
4- AsLanM4shadoW
5- aimdll or sociable
Finally, somebody mentioned sterben. Man's been on the top of TR and gets almost no recognition only bc of FUT not getting to international events. He's one if not the best non-duelist player in TR imo.
Carthage_Er_Pola [#59]Who's supmah
really good T2 Astra main who was UCAM's best player for a while, off the top of my head can't remember who he plays for now
FERETON [#5]ngl he was looking really strong starting 2021 but he definitely didn't played to the expectations.
raze is off meta now.
a_ll_a [#60]1.ZETA Laz
2.CR neth
3.ZETA Dep
4.RC takeJ
5.CR Meiy
Good list, Id put sugarzero in their instead of dep or meiy
drapion [#105]raze is off meta now.
Yeah but he could be a good flex player with time and practice. Ofc he didn't perform as well as he was expected to at Champions but he had so little time to practice his Sova and Flex agents. Maybe now with more time practicing with VK he could've gotten better.
KoreanOverlord [#106]
- Rb
- Stax
- Exy
- Seoldam
- Munchkin
Rb is just a lan choker due to inexperience, but in korea everyone knows hes the best.
He's a demon whatever he plays in the region, he only needs more time to get used to LANs and international pro play.
FERETON [#109]He's a demon whatever he plays in the region, he only needs more time to get used to LANs and international pro play.
Yup, hes super young so I understand him
KoreanOverlord [#110]Yup, hes super young so I understand him
We all do! Most young players in tier 1 teams need guidance and experience in their teams. Rb didn't got that right away like most NA and EU teams did, for example 100T in the case of Asuna and dicey playing with 3 top tier CS players, or most recently KRÜ with Onur and Klaus leading a team full of players with no LAN experience, or BIG, with Twisten being guided by gob b. Sadly there's not a lot of FPS top tier experienced IGLs in Asia like there's in other regions.
be_sashok [#111]
- Shao
- SUYGETSU
- pupr0
- Chronicle
- nAts
I hope FishkaVTom gets signed by Virtus.pro so we can all se these guys in top tier events, purp0 really deserves the chance.
Pjotr [#114]
- Magnum
- Ambi
- Twisten
- Sacake
- Monsteerr
maybe a little bit biased cuz I used to play with Ambi and Twisten
nah like Ambi has turned into a better player thx to Giants, hopefully he gets back on top with a renewed roster.
It's crazy the potential Twisten has to demonstrate against tier 1 opposition. Even tho BIG is not the best roster he could be playing with, gob b's guidance will help him grow a lot as a player and hopefully we will se him on LAN events soon!
KoreanOverlord [#106]
- Rb
- Stax
- Exy
- Seoldam
- Munchkin
Rb is just a lan choker due to inexperience, but in korea everyone knows hes the best.
really? exy and munchkin? arent there plenty other options like mako, TS, lakia, etc
LouBag [#74]Does he count at USA now that he moved to USA?
i mean if he has citizenship yea but i dont think he has
Mortadelo [#98]And what’s the point of “not all, just some” what’s the criteria behind that?
Because top player lists are often dominated by duelist players since they get the most attention I included Crashies, Supamen, and Zekken.
KoreanOverlord [#106]
- Rb
- Stax
- Exy
- Seoldam
- Munchkin
Rb is just a lan choker due to inexperience, but in korea everyone knows hes the best.
You really think Munchkin is top 5 over MaKo and Lakia?
jimjam789 [#117]really? exy and munchkin? arent there plenty other options like mako, TS, lakia, etc
exy over all the 3 players u named
prob lakia over munchkin but he hasnt played in a minute so its iffy
mako is like just outside top 5
TS is nowhere near top 5
u wanna see how good exy is? go watch TNL play in the shotval tournament, dude was 1v5'ing teams like WGS
KIPI [#30]1)cNed
2)pAura
3)Brave
4)XiSTOU
5)Izzy
In-form:AslanM4shadow
Rising Star :Deepmans
russz ?
FERETON [#113]I hope FishkaVTom gets signed by Virtus.pro so we can all se these guys in top tier events, purp0 really deserves the chance.
They aren't, Virtus.pro is not entering valorant for now
FERETON [#100]Finally, somebody mentioned sterben. Man's been on the top of TR and gets almost no recognition only bc of FUT not getting to international events. He's one if not the best non-duelist player in TR imo.
brave xsitou paura aimdll rusz and more better than him
harriman [#130]They aren't, Virtus.pro is not entering valorant for now
There's been some people saying they could pick up this roster in the future. If they don't, other orgs will def have an eye on them.
cripsy [#132]brave xsitou paura aimdll rusz and more better than him
I would've included paurA and russz instead of AsLan and aimdll. Idk about Brave and XiSTOU, surely top 10 players but not in this list.
FERETON [#135]There's been some people saying they could pick up this roster in the future. If they don't, other orgs will def have an eye on them.
Why? They couldn't even make the closed qualifier either time.
dumkey [#101]few tier 3 players but not enough to make a list (for now hopefully) 🙃
wow, vlr really calls your country macedonia huh... same in greece tho no t1-t2 players
shadowzin272 [#78]ethan is better than asuna bro
Asuna better in Berlin and LCQ, I would understand if you argued Leaf over Asuna (those two are very close for me) but Asuna is still a good bit ahead of Ethan rn
FERETON [#67]unpopular opinion I guess but I feel like dephh or ozzy could be over Russ
Thank you sir!
cripsy [#126]xistou,brave>sterben
When he was playing smokers he was good but now he is not good with Skye and Sage
FERETON [#100]Finally, somebody mentioned sterben. Man's been on the top of TR and gets almost no recognition only bc of FUT not getting to international events. He's one if not the best non-duelist player in TR imo.
I aslo mentioned Sterben you broke my heart :(
PersonHere [#119]i mean if he has citizenship yea but i dont think he has
he literally moved to America within the last 12 months there's no way he's a citizen
Thomasan [#14]
- Prod(na’s last hope)
- Wardaddy
- Shroudy Rowdy
- Tarik
5.Tenz(I heckin love tenz)
what country is this even for because 3 of them are Canadian
Syelf [#2]
- Heat - VK
- Aspas - Pancada e amigos
- Sacy - Pancada e amigos
- Pancada - Pancada e amigos
- Less - Pancada e amigos
Murizz > Less
exxem [#149]1) yay
2) leaf
3) crashies
4) shahzam
5) asuna
HM: vanity, ethan, sick, xeppaa, dapr
tenz!
i'm not sen fan, but not even top 5?
CalOtter [#141]Jett - yay
2nd duelist/flex - Leaf (asuna if you don’t like having 3 C9)
IGL/Smokes - Vanity
Sova/initiator - Crashies
Sentinel - Mitch
MITCH IS THE BEST REYNA!
As1anM4shad0W [#104]1-cNed
2-pAura
3-brave
4-sterben
5-deepmans
in my opinion:
cned
qw1
sterben
FUT MOJJ
brave
cripsy [#126]xistou,brave>sterben
no
are u braindead?
sterben might be top 5 sentinels/smoker in EU
deadSQUAD [#26]f0rsaken
berserx
monyet
lmemore
mindfreak
changes mindfreak to famouz, and all good
i know he didn't qualify even to SEA stage
but it's because his teammate didn't good enough
it's always about famouz esport back then
LouBag [#80]Good lists already for USA so I’ll make a top 5 non duelist.
1 Sick
2 Ethan
3 Crashies
4 Shahzam
5 Mitch (not sure if he is USA or Canadian)Hm: Dapr / Vanity / Supaman
Hard to argue with this list.
GooberBoy [#103]really good T2 Astra main who was UCAM's best player for a while, off the top of my head can't remember who he plays for now
Edit: misread
qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbn [#177]esperanza is not that good bro
bruh yes he was :'( I felt that he was super underrated, he created so much space and set up his team really well up (also cracked af)
Sprouts [#187]1) stax
2) MaKo
3) Rb
4) Seoldam
5) Suggest/allowLakia could be on the list but he hasn't played much recently
#165 is better >:)
ritiknayak [#184]SkRossi
Rawfiul
Deathmaker
Lightingfast
Skillz
rite2ace is better than skillz imo, so i would swap them
Vortexy [#185]bruh yes he was :'( I felt that he was super underrated, he created so much space and set up his team really well up (also cracked af)
He was underrated only by people who don't follow the scene.
People who follow the scene know how good he is.
Vortexy [#185]bruh yes he was :'( I felt that he was super underrated, he created so much space and set up his team really well up (also cracked af)
He is underrated, yes, but I'd give him top 10 at best because of how many good players there are in Korea.
nalinx [#192]
- Deathmaker
- Lightning Fast
- Skrossi
- Rawfiul
- Excali
Lightningfast over Rawfiul and Skrossi?
qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbn [#196]He is underrated, yes, but I'd give him top 10 at best because of how many good players there are in Korea.
He was the most consistent as far as I remember in the scene last year. He had the most MVP points too in stage 3
BIGGEST_VS_FAN [#13]nAts
Chronicle
Shao
Jady
trexx/cloud/sheydos/d3ffo/suygetsu idk actually
pretty accurate..
Bo0mShell [#195]He was underrated only by people who don't follow the scene.
People who follow the scene know how good he is.
wise words of wisdom
KoreanOverlord [#128]exy over all the 3 players u named
prob lakia over munchkin but he hasnt played in a minute so its iffy
mako is like just outside top 5
TS is nowhere near top 5
u wanna see how good exy is? go watch TNL play in the shotval tournament, dude was 1v5'ing teams like WGS
Nah wouldn't rate Munchkin in top 5 though. BuZz over Munchkin.
FERETON [#113]I hope FishkaVTom gets signed by Virtus.pro so we can all se these guys in top tier events, purp0 really deserves the chance.
purp0 plays with b8 in VRL qualifiers
Ibis [#28]Overall:
1) gob b ( one of the best IGLs, one of the best sovas, better aim than everyone says and qualed for EMEA)
2) al0rante
3) luckeRRR
4) murii
5) Obnoks
Best IGL in the world: GOB
Best OP: Luckerrr
Best Flex: Obnoks
Best Riffles: Musashi and Al0rante
Best Controller: Aslan
Best Newcomer: Penta Felix
Best Grandpa: Nookyyy
Best Shit Talker: Zonixxcs
Best Sentinel: Cleverly
FERETON [#115]nah like Ambi has turned into a better player thx to Giants, hopefully he gets back on top with a renewed roster.
It's crazy the potential Twisten has to demonstrate against tier 1 opposition. Even tho BIG is not the best roster he could be playing with, gob b's guidance will help him grow a lot as a player and hopefully we will se him on LAN events soon!
couldn't agree more
lyNxi [#208]zyppan good player, yes he can also be in list ))
Zyppan #2 player in Sweden after Leo.
archetype [#205]Nah wouldn't rate Munchkin in top 5 though. BuZz over Munchkin.
munchkin destroys korean players in scrims, I agree BuZz has an argument over him tho but munchkin is a very smart igl and he flexes so hes more valuable in my eyes
KoreanOverlord [#215]munchkin destroys korean players in scrims, I agree BuZz has an argument over him tho but munchkin is a very smart igl and he flexes so hes more valuable in my eyes
Munchkin has consistently zero noteworthy performance in international LANs tho, yeah his team is ass but as the igl he's partially responsible for some of the plays his team makes. i put buzz over munchkin.
lakia buzz and maybe even t3xture over munchkin
archetype [#216]Munchkin has consistently zero noteworthy performance in international LANs tho, yeah his team is ass but as the igl he's partially responsible for some of the plays his team makes. i put buzz over munchkin.
lakia buzz and maybe even t3xture over munchkin
bruh hes playing in a team with 3 japanese people, u have to see him on a korean team to see his real potential
all pro players and coach speak very highly of him, theres a reason hes the only remaining player from the old cr roster
KoreanOverlord [#217]bruh hes playing in a team with 3 japanese people, u have to see him on a korean team to see his real potential
all pro players and coach speak very highly of him, theres a reason hes the only remaining player from the old cr roster
yeah but according to him he's not gonna return. we have to take it as is - and since i have never seen him play in scrims i can't be sure if he's a scrim demon. plus scrim results don't always translate to game results, see VS at champs.
curlylmao [#147]Asuna better in Berlin and LCQ, I would understand if you argued Leaf over Asuna (those two are very close for me) but Asuna is still a good bit ahead of Ethan rn
ig I'll put them equally because Ethan is probably one of the most consistent player in NA right now on the other hand Asuna isn't as consistent as Ethan however when he's feeling it he'll carry 100T.
archetype [#218]yeah but according to him he's not gonna return. we have to take it as is - and since i have never seen him play in scrims i can't be sure if he's a scrim demon. plus scrim results don't always translate to game results, see VS at champs.
they already announced that hes back
KoreanOverlord [#220]they already announced that hes back
no as in he alr said hes not coming back to korea lol we arent gonna see him at a korean team
archetype [#223]no as in he alr said hes not coming back to korea lol we arent gonna see him at a korean team
no im saying hes back on cr
Thelard [#160]you said all the jetts xd
Aslında öyle değil, russ harika bir jett performansından görev oyuncusuna döndü. Sova ile harikalar yaratmaya devam ediyor. Aslan, şu anda ana smoker fakat hangi görev verilse altından kalkabilir. Socinin raze performansı ve cnedin sage playlarını unutmayalım. Burada sadece izzy için jett dışında bir görev dağılımı pozisyonu mevcut değil. Ama geri kalan kişiler bir şekilde rol değişikliği yapma kabiliyetine ve her rolde top frag olma yeteneğine sahip oldukları için yazdım. Yoksa birebir de oyun aklı olarak paura, site holder olarak brave gibi bir çok oyuncu yazılabilir. Ben yine de hem oyuncuya hem yeteneklerine hem kill/assist katkısına hem de popülerlik bakımından da diğerlerinden üstün olan kısma göre sıraladım. Yani jett oyuncularını değilde genel dağılımda, kimler tepede olmalı denince bu 5li geliyor aklıma.
FERETON [#115]nah like Ambi has turned into a better player thx to Giants, hopefully he gets back on top with a renewed roster.
It's crazy the potential Twisten has to demonstrate against tier 1 opposition. Even tho BIG is not the best roster he could be playing with, gob b's guidance will help him grow a lot as a player and hopefully we will se him on LAN events soon!
BIG is pretty damned good now. Don't sleep on them.
wkeyspectre [#226]
- forsaken
- jingg
- mindfreak
- benkai
- d4v41
(not necessarily in that order)
(from your country), d4v41 from malay, forsaken and mindfreak from indonesia
Fr1tZ [#236](from your country), d4v41 from malay, forsaken and mindfreak from indonesia
oh yeah i forgot sorry
sumihiro [#118]Bind, Split, Fracture???????
we rarely see Split being played in BR, and Fracture was only realesed for play during the LCQ. Im just saying why mw was not as great during the end of the year bro, and he was always great at Bind, along with Icebox, the only map GL was great at
Paxabrams [#240]
- Heat - Vivo Keyd
- Sacy - LOUD
- Xand - NiP
- Mwzera - Vivo Keyd
- Gaabxx - YNG Sharks
Haven't seen Gaabxx play, so genuine question, Gaabxx over Aspas?
Bo0mShell [#241]Haven't seen Gaabxx play, so genuine question, Gaabxx over Aspas?
at least gaabxx has proven to be a consistent player in pro level, but if aspas show good performance in vct, probably he can surpass him
Mortadelo [#98]And what’s the point of “not all, just some” what’s the criteria behind that?
probably just a thought experiment or just for fun
harriman [#51]
- Yay
- Crashies
- Leaf
- Supamen
- Zekken
I tried to make it not all duelist players so don't get mad
good list
Paxabrams [#242]at least gaabxx has proven to be a consistent player in pro level, but if aspas show good performance in vct, probably he can surpass him
I see.
Hope to see good performance from everyone in group stage.
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