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aspas is a fraud, not a GOAT

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#1
cameran

PS: While I would analyze a game aspas has currently as it would be more accurate in this roster as it would help a lot more, I think it'll be better for me to respond to posts saying he's the GOAT of ALL TIME (not just this year so far).

There has been the LONGEST narrative going on that Aspas is absolutely carrying his team on their back (shown by the tremendous amount of Tex + Mazino hate) and that his other teammates players are contributing very little to Aspas' frags, or that he is entering sites without any support. So I've gone back and watched every single match of LEV vs SEN (his former bo3 world recrd) and its just clear as day how untrue this is. EVERY, and I am not being hyperbolic, single one of his kills were supported by utility or by his teammates applying pressure, either by flooding with Aspas or elsewhere. And as proof, I have catalogued every single one of his kills on this map of Lotus.

Please note that this is an outdated analysis but I thought that it would still be better to respond, as this is still his most kills dropped in a single map.

U: denotes a utility-backed kill, with U(Sm) indicating that the kill was backed by a Viper/Harbour wall or smoke.
T: denotes a kill that is supported by teammates, T(Tr) indicates that the teammate is either following behind Aspas or is baiting for him, and T(Fl) representing a flank kill that Aspas has made while his team applies pressure elsewhere.

Lotus LEV vs SEN 2024 Stage 1
Round Kill type Total Number of Kills Remarks
1 1 x U (Sm) 1 kinGG drops the wall to allow Aspas a kill onto Tenz
3 1 x U(Sm) 1 kinGG's wall blocks off Zekken, C0m's fade eye clears front of rubble, allowing Aspas to safely satchel onto rubble wall and completely focus on door where Tenz was situated
4 1 x U(Sm), 1 x U 2
7 2 x T(L) 2 Aspas flanks Sentinels while their attention is entirely gathered on B site
8 1 x U (Sm), 2 x T(Fr) 3 It was a round loss and 2 of the kills were spam kills on bomb. Still, there were still multiple Lev members alive ready to trade him
9 1 x U (Sm) 1 Kill made while Sacy was decayed
10 1 x U(Sm) 1 Kill made while Zekken was decayed and pushing through Viper wall
11 1 x U 1 This one was actually ALL Mazino, a perfect paranoia that isolate Zekken and turns Tenz' one way against him
15 1 x U, 2 x T(Tr) 2 Again, a beautiful paranoia by Mazino that forces Tenz to tp away. Tex applies pressure on Zekken and dies, allowing Aspas to trade off him and flood onto site, and then kills Tenz who is still blinded. He then trades off Kinggg
16 1 x U(Sm), 1 x T(Tr), 1 x U 3 Gets a kill off someone pushing through Viper wall, then trades C0m. Gets comm that Sacy is stuck in tree, ults him.
17 3 x T(Tr), 3 Double faces with C0m, gets a kill on Tenz. Gets a double while flooding onto site while Tex and C0m are providing covering fire against Sacy
18 2 x T(Tr) 2 Trades C0m, trades Tex, loses the clutch
19 1 x T(Tr) 1 Trades C0m. This kill is the pure embodiment and proof that EVERYTHING Lev does is purely to enable Aspas. C0m is leading the charge, KNIFE OUT, jump strafing, being most juicy bait in Valorant existence
20 2 x T(Tr) 2 Trades C0m who was baiting enemies into him, gives Aspas his ult which he uses to kill Zellsis
27 2 x U 2 Util dump onto Zellsis, but it was Aspas' nade that secures the kill. Aspas gets a kill on a tethered JohnQT
28 1 x T(Tr) 1 Trades C0m
29 1 x T(L) 1 Round loss but gets a kill on an unware Zellsis while the rest of his team is dead
30 2 x T 2 Mazino sticks the defuse, forcing Sentinels to dry swing into Aspas
31 2 x U (Sm) 2 Pushes through Mazino's flood smoke and gets 2. Tex and C0m follow behind to trade his death. Unfortunately JohnQT gets a triple on them since they were all vulnerable but Kinggg clutches out the round with help from Maazino
33 1 x T 1 Everyone from Lev gets a kill here while Sen makes a failed flood attempt
34 2 x T 2 Mazino draws Zekken's crosshair away from Aspas who was hiding behind box by making noise while running at C door. Aspas gets another while Texx holds the defuse.
35 1 x T(Tr), 1 x U, 1 x U(Sm) 3 Trades C0m. Texxx mollies off A heaven to clear close, which inadvertently misleads Zellsis into thinking that they are all playing on site, causing him to run, util out, into Aspas on heaven. Final kill: Kinggg drops his wall onto an unsuspecting JohnQT
36 1 x U(Sm), 1 x T 2 Gets a kill on a knife out JohnQT who was tricked by the sound cues of C0m running away + Kinggg's viper wall still being up. Mazino distracts Tenz with a swing and cover fire, allowing Aspas to get a kill onto him

Tldr;
You actually CANNOT say that Aspas carried this team ALONE. He might have been against bad teams, but against this sentinels, this is a clear case of the team playing TOGETHER to enable Aspas. Aspas is quite possibly, the only player in the world who can capitalise on the advantages that his teammates feed him, but it is completely false to claim that Aspas is winning rounds ALONE, when he has not won, nor has ever been required to win, a singe clutch round on this map.

Aspas is dropping 40 bombs BECAUSE of his teammates, not IN SPITE of them.

#2
Maniacwolf
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Allat

#9
cameran
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People like you not being able to accept the truth are part of the problem. Typical delusional aspas fans smh

#15
Clucker
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Yo its allat and i aint reading it but based on the premise i 100% agree with u my goat

#50
cameran
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ty bro

#17
Maniacwolf
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Aspas is the goat wdym

#52
cameran
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flair

#56
NebularCarina
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friendly fire from fentman

#58
cameran
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LMAO

#59
NebularCarina
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bro changed his flair LMAO shameless

#60
OhDrxw
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nah wdym he was apart of the kru bandwagon before stage 1 started

#63
cameran
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yessir this guy knows ball

#62
cameran
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what shameless? i LOVE kru esports

#3
shrike-
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not reading allat, happy for you or sorry that happened

#10
cameran
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Oh keep coping lil bro

#4
glittering_yard
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classic

#8
cameran
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i had to bring this back its just too silly not to LMAO

#5
Zyro007_
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Bro get a job stop wasting time on a player who won't even know your name.

#12
cameran
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cant handle the truth?

#6
noahkraken
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Also Aspas was not the best player at Champs 2022 through the tournament or on grand finals. He has no tournament wins as the best player on his team

#16
Clucker
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Everyone knows that in 2022 it was less

#47
cameran
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owned the aspas fans. i agree

#7
x_knowitall39_x
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aspas & 4 util bots

#22
cameran
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Util boss that carried aspas frags..

#11
unragebaitable13
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son
wtf does 1 1 X U even mean

#13
cameran
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Round 1, 1 kill, which was utility backed up

#14
unragebaitable13
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i mean at this point i just respect ur dedication i wish i had ur free time

what does sm mean

#23
cameran
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Smoke assisted kill. And thank you brother. I love analyzing stuff

#27
forklift2
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what's your mbti perchance

#30
cameran
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whats that

#18
marxlboro
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unemployed final boss

#24
cameran
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How is this unemployed? Analyzing is a part of my job and Im just practicing! I just utilized excel with this so im not wasting any time.

#19
communard
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maybe get a life (?)

#34
cameran
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:(

#20
wizzamv
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PS: While I would analyze a game aspas has currently as it would be more accurate in this roster as it would help a lot more, I think it'll be better for me to respond to posts saying he's the GOAT of ALL TIME (not just this year so far).

There has been the LONGEST narrative going on that Aspas is absolutely carrying his team on their back (shown by the tremendous amount of Tex + Mazino hate) and that his other teammates players are contributing very little to Aspas' frags, or that he is entering sites without any support. So I've gone back and watched every single match of LEV vs SEN (his former bo3 world recrd) and its just clear as day how untrue this is. EVERY, and I am not being hyperbolic, single one of his kills were supported by utility or by his teammates applying pressure, either by flooding with Aspas or elsewhere. And as proof, I have catalogued every single one of his kills on this map of Lotus.

Please note that this is an outdated analysis but I thought that it would still be better to respond, as this is still his most kills dropped in a single map.

U: denotes a utility-backed kill, with U(Sm) indicating that the kill was backed by a Viper/Harbour wall or smoke.
T: denotes a kill that is supported by teammates, T(Tr) indicates that the teammate is either following behind Aspas or is baiting for him, and T(Fl) representing a flank kill that Aspas has made while his team applies pressure elsewhere.

Lotus LEV vs SEN 2024 Stage 1
Round Kill type Total Number of Kills Remarks
1 1 x U (Sm) 1 kinGG drops the wall to allow Aspas a kill onto Tenz
3 1 x U(Sm) 1 kinGG's wall blocks off Zekken, C0m's fade eye clears front of rubble, allowing Aspas to safely satchel onto rubble wall and completely focus on door where Tenz was situated
4 1 x U(Sm), 1 x U 2
7 2 x T(L) 2 Aspas flanks Sentinels while their attention is entirely gathered on B site
8 1 x U (Sm), 2 x T(Fr) 3 It was a round loss and 2 of the kills were spam kills on bomb. Still, there were still multiple Lev members alive ready to trade him
9 1 x U (Sm) 1 Kill made while Sacy was decayed
10 1 x U(Sm) 1 Kill made while Zekken was decayed and pushing through Viper wall
11 1 x U 1 This one was actually ALL Mazino, a perfect paranoia that isolate Zekken and turns Tenz' one way against him
15 1 x U, 2 x T(Tr) 2 Again, a beautiful paranoia by Mazino that forces Tenz to tp away. Tex applies pressure on Zekken and dies, allowing Aspas to trade off him and flood onto site, and then kills Tenz who is still blinded. He then trades off Kinggg
16 1 x U(Sm), 1 x T(Tr), 1 x U 3 Gets a kill off someone pushing through Viper wall, then trades C0m. Gets comm that Sacy is stuck in tree, ults him.
17 3 x T(Tr), 3 Double faces with C0m, gets a kill on Tenz. Gets a double while flooding onto site while Tex and C0m are providing covering fire against Sacy
18 2 x T(Tr) 2 Trades C0m, trades Tex, loses the clutch
19 1 x T(Tr) 1 Trades C0m. This kill is the pure embodiment and proof that EVERYTHING Lev does is purely to enable Aspas. C0m is leading the charge, KNIFE OUT, jump strafing, being most juicy bait in Valorant existence
20 2 x T(Tr) 2 Trades C0m who was baiting enemies into him, gives Aspas his ult which he uses to kill Zellsis
27 2 x U 2 Util dump onto Zellsis, but it was Aspas' nade that secures the kill. Aspas gets a kill on a tethered JohnQT
28 1 x T(Tr) 1 Trades C0m
29 1 x T(L) 1 Round loss but gets a kill on an unware Zellsis while the rest of his team is dead
30 2 x T 2 Mazino sticks the defuse, forcing Sentinels to dry swing into Aspas
31 2 x U (Sm) 2 Pushes through Mazino's flood smoke and gets 2. Tex and C0m follow behind to trade his death. Unfortunately JohnQT gets a triple on them since they were all vulnerable but Kinggg clutches out the round with help from Maazino
33 1 x T 1 Everyone from Lev gets a kill here while Sen makes a failed flood attempt
34 2 x T 2 Mazino draws Zekken's crosshair away from Aspas who was hiding behind box by making noise while running at C door. Aspas gets another while Texx holds the defuse.
35 1 x T(Tr), 1 x U, 1 x U(Sm) 3 Trades C0m. Texxx mollies off A heaven to clear close, which inadvertently misleads Zellsis into thinking that they are all playing on site, causing him to run, util out, into Aspas on heaven. Final kill: Kinggg drops his wall onto an unsuspecting JohnQT
36 1 x U(Sm), 1 x T 2 Gets a kill on a knife out JohnQT who was tricked by the sound cues of C0m running away + Kinggg's viper wall still being up. Mazino distracts Tenz with a swing and cover fire, allowing Aspas to get a kill onto him

Tldr;
You actually CANNOT say that Aspas carried this team ALONE. He might have been against bad teams, but against this sentinels, this is a clear case of the team playing TOGETHER to enable Aspas. Aspas is quite possibly, the only player in the world who can capitalise on the advantages that his teammates feed him, but it is completely false to claim that Aspas is winning rounds ALONE, when he has not won, nor has ever been required to win, a singe clutch round on this map.

Aspas is dropping 40 bombs BECAUSE of his teammates, not IN SPITE of them.

#38
cameran
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well said brotha i agree!

#21
Coronos
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My godddddd, its bible

#40
cameran
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LMAO

#25
jojiswmaster
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What madness, what dedication is this for something so silly? I don't know why they pick on the guy so much, lol.

#41
cameran
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??? i was defending MIBR. i was defending them on the fact that people constantly say how aspas is always carrying his team, when he isnt

#26
Kazuki_223
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And there we go again...

#42
cameran
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with what??

#28
Fluxcicide
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69000 post about someone claiming why aspas is goat/fraud

#43
cameran
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LMAO

#29
aspas_number1hater
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i aint reading allat but i agree

#44
cameran
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thanks!

#31
ballsinyojaws
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nah this is actually weird shit lol, you okay mentally brotha? being fr

#36
cameran
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how is it weird? this is a valorant forum after all, and i was bored and just wanted to analyze stuff to prove all the haters constantly thinking down on tex + mazino to show that their teammates are the ones helping out aspas

#48
ballsinyojaws
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you gotta be so bored to do all that when it doesn't even matter loool

#49
cameran
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i am bored i agree. thats why i did it, and it does matter. everyones been saying how aspas is always carrying when that isnt true

#32
Xool_233
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Oh no a guy is getting assisted kills in a team based game 😭😭
Can't run it down like normal players

#33
Xool_233
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I think I missed the whole point of the analysis, mb

#35
cameran
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all g brotha!

#37
TheFumbler
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Idk how bro is consistent with one bait post per day. Atp you deserve some appreciation

#45
cameran
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thanks bro. im just better :3

#39
CatEffect1
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Nice detail

#46
cameran
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ty sir

#51
Wolfed
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fork found in kitchen, team player thrives in team game 🤷‍♂️ I would EXPECT his teammates to back him up, its the bare minimum in this game. it would be more interesting to do this for the mibr 2025 champions games imo, since tex > artzin 2025 and mazino > xenom

#54
cameran
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exactly. thats the whole point of my analysis

#55
fuzziii
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bro wat are you doing with an nrg flair

#57
cameran
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i love nrg wym ive always been a fan

#53
captmarshmallow
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please drop the NRG flair, we don't need your jinx

#61
cameran
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HAHAHAHAH

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