professional coaches i have a question

#1

estonianhagi

for teams that play against yoru dependent gamestyle, why don't we see more kayo/iso to shut down yoru?

Prowler to find yoru
CounterDefense smoke for vision block
Recall smoke close to negate top box peeker.
Iso undercut to suppress(yoru has to tp out immediately no time to think)
Neon dash to punish if he doesnt.
Neon peeks top box angle(harder to shoot and so much pressure the top box guy has to go down)
Farm Iso his ult points

Why do teams allow yoru to eat up so much util spending like 4 un-renewable pieces of util just to make him tp?
This is just a basic A long take that I came up with. You can replace many of the agents like kayo for iso even though i think iso is just so much better.
Please let me know why teams don't have this kind of approach?

https://imgur.com/a/6FFpVhG

case studies:
marteen vs liquid the amount of value he gets is ridiculous
https://youtu.be/RTmdmtwXklY?t=790
https://youtu.be/RTmdmtwXklY?t=889

#2

aiber

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i think in pro play prowlers will almost always be broken by a 2nd person

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AlittleMio

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Yeah most teams dont leave yoru to push alone

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estonianhagi

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https://youtu.be/RTmdmtwXklY?t=888

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estonianhagi

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i dont think they break them long B especially with someone in box peek.
most teams actually prefer the prowler to see someone and break it last second to show presence and tempt util dump/spam so the yoru can absorb and tp

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aiber

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you should clarify you're talking about Pearl (i think) specifically

#6

estonianhagi

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its not really just pearl it happens alot in bind, split and etc. but i used pearl in my explaination and it happens alot in pearl especially Long A

#8

aiber

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the prowler is lowkey always broken by someone else

#12

estonianhagi

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not really. most teams are looking to drain util to lessen site hit difficulty. well atleast good teams.

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estonianhagi

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https://youtu.be/RTmdmtwXklY?t=888 see how neon doesnt engage with the dog at all

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AlittleMio

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I do like the point about catching yoru with a kayo, didnt NRG do that against BBL on pearl?

#9

estonianhagi

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? what i think you mean tejo and i dont really remember that but the drone does suppress if thats what u mean

#10

aiber

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yes they do it with the stealth drone

#11

AlittleMio

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mb gng i am not awake yet

#15

estonianhagi

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any coaches?

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tua

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Yeah hi this is Bonkar YAAAAHOOOOOOHOO

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Germy

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bro go prep for match why doomscrolling VLR forums

#20

estonianhagi

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i want real coaches not pewnie chicken nugget salary ones

#18

GarbanzoEnjoyer

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Yk I am surprised more teams don't play Iso in this meta

#19

Krayon9239

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Kayo better. Iso is useless if u just wanna counter Yoru or site hits.

Atleast Kayo can flash molly & knife to stall.

#21

estonianhagi

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wth iso is not useless for site hits or yoru counter but the ult does get nullified

#22

Linardinssssss

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Muggle here what is a yoru

#23

HeIsTet

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No coach is on VLR, maybe to see stats but not comments. At least T1 coaches

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estonianhagi

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t2-t1 are all pro coaches. dang tough i always get like semi pissed when i see a yoru just get to do what ever he wants

#24

number1_mada_fan

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Autumn here, i am terrorism

#25

FNSaimcoach9

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Hi autumn here!
i just tell my players to rage rush every round and if it doesn't work then i blame them for not shooting