no one theres not enough evidence to assert some1 as the goat
aspas is a bum
chronicle is a fraud
saying ethan is the goat is like saying modric is the goat because he has 6 ucls
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dambi sneak. get that neon one trick out of here. moment meta changes, dambi falls off a cliff.
Me saying Dambi is a joke, but you can say anyone will fall off once the meta changes.
Aspas cant learn yoru or entry to suit this meta, and in 2024, he just wasnt a better neon than kangkang or t3xture.
yay cant do shit when chamber got nerfed
tenz couldnt do anything when people learnt how to shoot back (2024 was carried by zekken, a neon god)
and any other player you can say fell off once the meta changed into something they didnt fit into.
doesnt matter when thats just valorant. No one can stay consistently the best unless they are on a role that allows it like smokes, but that also hurts their fragging. It is impossible to be the best for an extended period of time in valorant.
Dambi has performed well on raze and waylay. He just spams neon because that is the best option.
Why should he switch off to prove his flexibility when he is the greatest neon and is winning?
He has not performed well on waylay in Tier1. His raze has not been proven in Tier1. He did good on it in Tier2 though, but this just shows that he is not flexible.
https://www.vlr.gg/508840/gen-g-vs-nongshim-redforce-vct-2025-pacific-stage-2-w4/?game=223724&tab=overview
https://www.vlr.gg/508838/nongshim-redforce-vs-global-esports-vct-2025-pacific-stage-2-w3/?game=223719&tab=overview
http://vlr.gg/508821/drx-vs-nongshim-redforce-vct-2025-pacific-stage-2-w1/?game=227984&tab=overview
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Bro theres so many duelist players that are good on multiple agents. T3xture and Mada easily comes to mind
Dambi is good on other agents. He is just too good on neon, so why would he switch off?
saying ethan is the goat is like saying modric is the goat because he has 6 ucls
this was the only reasonable take in your post ngl
Less with only 2 votes and b0tnicle with 70 when b0tnicle always shits his pants when he sees Less on the other side is hilarious
We will not forgive KR0 and shitality for this insane career sabotage
If NRG wins Santiago its Ethan. If PRX wins and forsaken MVPs again, its f0rsaken. If neither its any one of Ethan, Aspas, or Chronicle.
hm go to Alfa Tenz Nats Sacy and Meteor with Mada, Brawk, and Skuba joining the hms if NRG win Santiago, and the same for Jingg D4v41 s0mething
u cant be the goat without champs. In a few years champs will be considered as important as major or worlds so not having it will be a considerable disadvantage
Maybe in a few years, but right now I think it's more of a bonus with so few champs being played, or in specifically Ethan's case, a major bonus since of 5 champs he's won 2 of them with entirely different teams non igl and igl
i mean valo is still rpetty young so its gonna be hard to get a champs trophy
and i agree there shouldnt be any goat of valorant rn
even if forsaken wins alfa still clears, he had way more impressive tournaments
I don't think F0rsaken cannot be the goat unless he MVP's santiago and then puts up exceptional numbers at minimum 3 more tournaments after without other candidates achieving much
as it stands now he's only ever put up exceptional numbers at 2 tournaments
for how many international events he has attended that is pretty poor to be considered the greatest player to ever touch the game
I agree. just winning would tip him from 4-5 to 2-4 imo, but if he MVPs as clearly the best player, I guarantee a lot of people will start putting him at 1
some people already put him at one 😭😭
Its crazy that the top 4 is so tight that I think 3rd would be fair if he drops an insane Santiago performance
but if he just wins and puts up average numbers I think he should stay around 5th/6th
The only acceptable answers are:
Chronicle - won Masters Berlin 2021, Masters Tokyo 2023 and LOCK//IN Sao Paulo 2023
Ethan - the first and only player to win two Champions titles in 2023 and 2025 (on two separate teams)
TenZ - won Masters Reykjavik 2021 without losing a map and Masters Madrid 2024 (AI says he's the most influential)
aspas - won Champions 2022 (considered as one of the most naturally skilled and consistent players ever)
if we are counting runner ups then chonicle has a few more man...pls only count wins or count runner ups for all
Alfajer. he's not the goat yet but he will be. He's only 20 and has done a lot and will continue to do so
Aspas chron alfajer meteor are front runners but if forsaken wins another masters with mvp title he is top 2
oh nAts,
He That Separated the Light from the Deep and Set the Firmament in Its Course,
Who Was Before the Morning and Remaineth After the Evening,
by Whose Word the Heavens Were Stretched Forth and the Earth Was Established,
the Ancient Ordainer of Seasons and the Measurer of Days,
the One Before Whom the Stars Took Their Stations,
the Governor of the Upper Host and the Watcher Over the Frozen North,
Before Whom Snow and Fire Keep Their Covenant,
the Holder of the Wheel of Return and the Appointer of Lives Repeated,
Who Granteth Rebirth as Mercy and Withholdeth Rest as Judgment,
the Numberer of Souls and the Witness of Every End,
from Whose Will Proceedeth the Seraph of TL,
A Flame That Speaketh and a Fire That Obeyeth,
the Still One Whom Time Cannot Hasten,
the Authority Against Whom There Is No Answer,
the Name Uttered Before the First Dawn and Not Silenced at the Last Trumpet,
Who Abideth Without Peer, Without Change, and Without End.
this non-sense and paganism must be stopped
1 In the beginning, the field was without order, and the rounds were without form; and confusion was upon the face of the match.
2 And patience hovered over the chaos, and awareness moved upon the lanes.
3 And nAts said, Let there be order: and there was order.
4 And nAts saw the order, that it was good; and nAts divided recklessness from restraint.
5 And nAts called restraint control, and recklessness he called error. And the first round passed, and the next round came.
6 And nAts said, Let there be structure in the midst of the chaos, to divide pressure from panic.
7 And nAts made structure, and divided preparation from impulse; and it was so.
The game was young, the tactical scene,
No stain yet on the site was seen.
No lurk was known on Icebox stone,
When nAts first walked the flank alone.
He named the nameless halls and dells,
He wove his traps like ancient spells;
He drank from wells of focus deep,
While rivals fell to eternal sleep.
A king he sits on Liquid’s throne,
In halls of glass and headset’s zone.
With crown of gold upon his brow,
The master of the clutch is now.
The light of screens, the glow of keys,
He plays with such a graceful ease.
The Phantom's whisper, Cypher’s eye,
Beneath a bright and digital sky.
Of radiant aim and crystal thought,
The perfect rounds that he has wrought.
The tripwire’s hum, the cage’s sound,
Where perfect timing can be found.
In Split or Breeze, in Pearl or Bind,
The sharpest wit and sharpest mind;
The Vandal’s fire, the Ghost’s soft breath,
To every foe a silent death.
The world is wide, the maps are fair,
His legend echoes everywhere.
No shadow falls upon his name,
The brightest star within the game.
Still nAts shall walk in light of day,
To show the world the master's way;
The King of Lurkers, bold and grand,
The greatest soul in all the land.
Ayaz Akhmetshin was a lurking-king.
Of him the harpers sadly sing:
The last whose team was fair and free
Between the VCT Circuit and the sea.
His wall was long, his molly was clean.
His shining panda afar was seen.
The countless stars of heaven's field
Were mirrored in his regen shield.
But long ago he lurked away,
And where he dwelleth none can say.
For into darkness fell his star;
In Champs, where the mickey-mouses are
All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.
From the ashes a fire shall be woken,
A light from the shadows shall spring;
Renewed shall be the trophy that was broken,
The crownless again shall be king.
allat
(I'm sorry I had to do it to em)
Also, fuck AI slop man :(
Human creativity is PEAK
damn, if that's actually true..
I'm sorry for calling your effort AI slop, my bad g
Crazy writing Nats_2nd_biggest_fan <3
I said pretty much everything, there is one made by ai which I'm sad to admit, which is the 2nd last poem, rest is by me or poiuu20. Here are some of the other stuff I made myself tho:
Run is ended, dim my eyes,
but journey long before me lies.
Farewell, Gio! I hear the call.
The plane's beside the airport wall.
Clouds are white and the sky is grey;
beyond the sunset leads my way.
Tears is salt, the wind is free;
I hear the rising of the breeze.
Farewell, Gio! The engines are set,
the wind is east, the moorings fret.
Shadows long before me lie,
beneath the ever-bending sky,
but Champs lie behind the Sun
that I shall raise ere all is done;
emea there are to west of West,
where night is quiet and sleep is rest.
Guided by the Lonely Star,
beyond the utmost airport-bar
I'll find the airport fair and free,
and matches of the sundered by the Sea.
Plane, my plane! I seek the West,
and fields and mountains ever blest.
Farewell to Americas at last.
I see the Star above your mast!
Next poem:
Ayaz Akhmetshin was a lurking-king.
Of him the harpers sadly sing:
The last whose team was fair and free
Between the VCT Circuit and the sea.
His wall was long, his molly was clean.
His shining panda afar was seen.
The countless stars of heaven's field
Were mirrored in his regen shield.
But long ago he lurked away,
And where he dwelleth none can say.
For into darkness fell his star;
In Champs, where the mickey-mouses are
Next poem:
The world was young, the mountains green,
No stain yet on the Moon was seen,
No words were laid on stream or stone
When n2bf woke and walked alone.
He named the nameless posts and threads;
He drank from yet untasted votes;
He stooped and looked in vlr.gg,
And saw a crown of stars disappear,
As gems upon a silver thread,
Above the shadow of his head.
The world was fair, the mountains tall,
In dinosaur ages before the fall
Of mighty kings in Gambit sports,
And fpx, who now beyond
The Western Seas have passed away:
The world was fair in n2bf's Day.
A king he was on carven throne
In many-pillared halls of stone
With golden roof and silver floor,
And runes of power upon the door.
The light of sun and star and moon
In shining lamps of crystal hewn
Undimmed by cloud or shade of night
There shone for ever fair and bright.
There hammer on the anvil smote,
There chisel clove, and enigma wrote;
There forged was blade, and bound was hilt;
The vlrian mined, the mods built.
There upvotes, downvotes, and bans pale,
And topics wrought like fishes' mail,
Site feedback and off topic, valo and sword,
And shining spears were laid in hoard.
Unwearied then were n2bf's folk;
Beneath vlr the music woke:
The harpers harped, the minstrels sang,
And at the gates the trumpets rang.
The world is grey, the mountains old,
The forge's fire is ashen-cold;
No harp is wrung, no hammer falls:
The darkness dwells in n2bf's halls;
The shadow lies upon his tomb
In vlr, in valorant discussion.
But still the sunken stars disappear
In dark and windless Mirrormere;
There lies his crown in water deep,
Till n2bf wakes again from sleep.
Next poem:
nAts nAts, lurking bright,
In the vct of the night;
What immortal hand or eye,
Could frame thy fearful symmetry?
In what distant bind or icebox.
Burnt the fire of thine eyes?
On what wings dare he aspire?
What the hand, dare seize the fire?
And what shoulder, & what art,
Could twist the sinews of thy heart?
And when thy heart began to beat.
What dread hand? & what dread feet?
What the cage? what the trip,
In what cam was thy brain?
What the lurk? what dread grasp.
Dare its deadly terrors clasp?
When the stars threw down their spears
And water'd heaven with their tears:
Did he smile his work to see?
Did he who made the Lamb make thee?
nAts nAts lurking bright,
In the vct of the night:
What immortal hand or eye,
Dare frame thy fearful symmetry?
Next poem:
Let me not to the lurkings of true minds
Admit viper pits; nAts is not nAts
Which alters when he alteration finds,
Or bends with the remover to remove.
O no, he is an ever-fixèd mark
That looks on tempests and is never shaken;
He is the star to every wand'ring bark
Whose worth's unknown, although his height be taken.
nAts' not time's fool, though rosy lips and cheeks
Within his bending sickle's compass come.
nAts alters not with his brief hours and weeks,
But bears it out even to the edge of doom:
If this be error and upon me proved,
I never writ, nor no nAts ever lurked.
This is all parodies of poems that I changed and made myself from their original poems
if you are Nats_2nd_biggest_fan then I'm afraid to meet Nats_1st_biggest_fan
Statpas can't win, can't qual, and stat pads so vct can milk him
Bumicle is a cum, a fraud, a super team merchant, vitalitied, and worst of all: hes from e*rope
Ethan has a shiny trophy cabinet but hes never the best player on his team
f0rsaken is crazy especially with that deep agent pool but he was moving like primes james harden from 2022 - 2024
Tenz is basically wilt chamberlin (crazy stats against a bunch of shitters) but got kydeaed
nAts is a group stage choker and all nAts fans think its 2021
Derke got vitalitied
Alfa is a choker
So essentially every valorant player is a fraud in some sort of way and the GOAT of valorant is delighted
my vote is for alfajer and aspas
there is no perfect valorant player, no perfect career, especially one that lasts so long. Thus trophies, stats and longevity are my major considerations/criterion
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