Reasons for liquid performing poorly in every tour

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*recent ones

Bangkok 2025:

Lost to EDG who were the vct champs 24 champions, would've prolly won if it went to map 3 as it was bind but kamyk couldn't suck properly on split
13-1ed sentinels
Lost to G2 who went on to become 2nd and almost won

Toronto 2025:

Lots of issues on this one nats (igl) couldn't get his visa and the team had only one day of prac with the sub penny
First match vs BLG close game w a sub w/o main igl
Smashed MIBR pretty easily once nats came
Lost to prx in a very close game who eventually went on to win the tourney
Main roster was also changed in this tourney to bring in serial

Champs 2025:

Roster was changed once again to bring in trexxx
Got into a group with nrg --> who went on to win champs, Drx----> who went on to become third and the current meta, EDG ----> Defending vct champs but they were pretty washed ngl

Anyways lost against drx pretty badly no excuses there

Santiago 2026:****

Still loading check back in after its finished

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senyagi

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T00m l0q00d

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MaximumImpactVLR

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Copium

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CinnamonStew34s

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lowk the randos wanting americas to lose had more faith in liquid than the liquid discord which is a depressed bunch, even saying nrg 2-1 tl is more tl rep than the fans giving W shrike

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How is this copium? This is good reasons

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Huyleorank

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crazy how every event liquid has a new excuse but the result is always the same

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Nats_2nd_biggest_fan

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Cannot be talking with that flair icl

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Huyleorank

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i usually dont make excuses but yeah we’re guilty of it too lmao

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CinnamonStew34s

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i wont take sides between my fav 2 teams (rrq and tl)

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Group stage merchants🥀

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Nats_2nd_biggest_fan

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Flair

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t0t0_wolff

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Silver medal > group exits

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13-1

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its sadly the the most annoying wall to face because every time i hope they do good maybe go on a run and every time it gets crushed :( but hey this time they won the first game but 2 after that both games were horrible ngl

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Alveio

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Hey could be worse, you could be a CS Liquid fan

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Nats_2nd_biggest_fan

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I tried supporting them but then I just gave up, that team is a mess. I miss 2019...

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Alveio

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I feel you, mate. Not a TL fan, but their downfall is heartbreaking

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Arssarr

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youre not gonna guess where i started supporting team liquid but yeah 2019 was nice and now its sad i dont watch cs anymore but look at the roster from time to time

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what do you expect? every year a new team of rookies wont go that far in internationals lol. My only hope is that nAts doesnt renew and goes to a team where he is given the respect and team he deserves

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at least their new players have a little bit experience at their first international event
i don't think that tl will fix their mistakes in the future, but we'll see
cause if they miraculously qual to masters london (i know it's early to predict, but why not) and they go through swiss stage again, it will be the same shit as their past performance at all internationals where they appear. win 1 game, lose next two

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Lowkey i don't think it'll be "miraculous" for them to qualify to the next masters they adapted to the meta pretty quick albeit it needs some polishing and the squad just needs more time together last year if they just kept the squad together for stage 1 with kamyk and if nats got his visa in time for toronto they prolly would've went on a pretty good run

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hinahinaa

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maybe you're right, but kamyk....nah bro, he's awful
as i said, we'll se when stage 1 starts, and how they gonna play

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Nats_2nd_biggest_fan

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Ye
The thing is that the roster barely had any time to play and train together from the start of kickoff, and they barely had any time before that

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MountainEater

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he wasn't THAT bad on liquid his util was js iffy sometimes but unpopular opinion but he was kinda better than serial byt serial good too

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Arssarr

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in 2025 they lost the first and then won adn then lost
(i remember because of the pain)

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Tsurugi

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Santiago: they were just bad compared to the other teams

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Nats_2nd_biggest_fan

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Saying that when they clearly beat t1 is crazy

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Tsurugi

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no i know im just a hater

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Nollihd07

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Fucking shitass org always gives me hope and then fucking shits on the hope.
I'm fucking done this fucking org.

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Akhmyed

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the moment it matters their mental shuts down, nAts starts to give his w igl speech every time but its like babysitting ranked teammates, they always build rosters that can dominate at first then when it matters they lose momentum easily and lose close games to get stomped and gg
bad mental is a general EU issue but it shows the most on liquid
honestly hope nAts joins fnatic or some good team cuz liquid is just cursed no matter what
keiko wasnt dominant that much until he joined a team with arguably the best mental and it showed yesterday

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hinahinaa

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true. nats is a good player, but he always get a mid teammates (keiko doesn't count, he was incredible when he joined tl)
keiko was really a good pickup for nrg, and i'm glad that he leaved shitquid

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Nats_2nd_biggest_fan

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Ye
In both matches that they lost, they just gave up on the 2nd map

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Arssarr

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no keiko was dominant last year too and not dominant until last game
nAts mental was also bad in the last game so made so many bad mistakes shielding nas from any blame is just not the correct way (im a nats fan since 2021)
but yeah the teams the last 2 years were kinda bad i think last year he had a moral support in patitek which is missing this year like a hype guy is missing

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All i hear is excuses for being bad. if it was fnatic they would've won against nrg and get atleast top 5
im not saying fnatic is better im saying liquid is just ass on intl

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OceanB

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Bro this is literally (so similar to) my thread but worded differently and more details
https://www.vlr.gg/629800/liquids-luck-in-2025/#1

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OceanB

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And also on that note, I am so positive m8s and NRG are making it to top 3
That's also part of liquid's curse

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hinahinaa

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i think liquid's curse is more strong than heretics curse xd