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not a comp or role issue

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#1
uwukitten

how did we just watch liquid run it down 5 into the same choke for 12 rounds on attack and come to the conclusion that the problem is the comp? did anyone even watch the game? at most I'd attribute them straying away from defaulting to brim not having rechargeable smokes but even then you have one smoke you can use to default early and other cool downs you can use

#2
waseetali9
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they have only brim smokes
kinda have to run it down
cuz those smokes dont recharge

#5
uwukitten
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yeah I just edited to mention that 🗿you can still default even if you're playing brim only

#9
GarbanzoEnjoyer
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with the nerfs Omen realistically gets 4 smokes max (while managing cooldowns) and Astra only gets more than 3 if she sacrifices another ability

it's more of a solo controller and decision-making issue than a brim issue

#3
9wntr
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nats igl error ngl
and i normally like nats igl

#4
Ultia
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They didn’t run it down a choke bud. They mid-defaulted with no early extremity control, allowing GX to take the mains for more info and then crunch for retakes. I don’t think you watched the game.

#7
uwukitten
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"mid-defaulted" they took mid for free then all of them pushed into site through the choke, I don't think they even inserted anyone at any part of mid after doing that and instead all rushed into site
calling that a default is just embarrassing

#8
Ultia
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No, what they did was a really poor mid default. It’s quite normal on maps like Ascent with 1-3-1 defaults that’s leave a single player on both mains while the other three push up into market to threaten splits in both direction and for faster rotates.

The issue with Pearl is that you need the mains early to deny info, collect orbs, and insert players for the split. That’s why Americas and Pacific teams fight A main heavy at the start even if they fall back into a passive default after. EMEA is just shit at the map.

#10
uwukitten
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you've said nothing that contradicted what I said. a really poor mid default is them not even taking any extremities which is all of them going mid, what are you even arguing over? is it not true that most rounds ended with them all running through the same choke and dying? at most they left one fade A main alone which is at best a 50 50 duel and realistically much worse

#11
Ultia
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Because you’re using the wrong terms. “Running it down a choke” insinuates 4-5 people through the main with maybe a lurker mid. It’s not a hard definition but most players will interpret it that way.

#6
Blueberry77
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I’ve never seen a team wiff that much istg miniboo cursed them

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