The Korean org exodus begins

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SeulgiVLR

https://twitter.com/officialescvlrt/status/1474667992353247237 (Account private, cant see atm)
BBQ Olivers or Esports Connected have signed GodDead (former F4Q) and Moothie (former C9 Korea)

Peri and 10X, both ex-NUTURN players are also rumored to sign with the coach being former TNL coach fAwn, Hermes will be their duelist, Chibab, Lawrence, and LuZ were trialing for the team aswell

Spear Gaming, TUBEPLE Gaming, GoNGo Prince, ex-F4Q, Maru Gaming, KGA Esports, and SGA Esports are also set to join Korea for Challengers 2022, Talon and Sandbox have shown interest

Persia and F4Q Locomotive have supposedly been signed by a mystery org currently

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DeluluGavin

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Here we go! I hope harry comes back as sentinel player, since he has worked with fawn in tnl before

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SeulgiVLR

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hermes will likely be their 5th, luz was gonna be their sentinel but fell out in trials and he outperformed chibab and lawrence

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DeluluGavin

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OH my, hermes. I haven't heard about him since like idk few months ago.

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SeulgiVLR

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considering he outperformed two known duelists in trials and held up with hyeoni when playing against dfr, i think itll be a good signing
if peri and 10x rumors are true theres a lot of potential here

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Omega_lul

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Is any team poaching lakia or rb?

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SeulgiVLR

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None that I currently know of, Rb has played with the team core for years so I doubt they’ll let him go so easily
Lakia, or how VS will look in general we know nothing about.
Unless a big time org (Talon, SBXG, DK, etc) puts big money to VS, doubt Lakia will be let go and i feel they’ll do the same with Zest as well

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DeluluGavin

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I wonder where Zest is going to go.

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SeulgiVLR

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Zest might just stay as a benchwarmer, considering that he knows everything about VS’ ethic

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DeluluGavin

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I hope not, just not good for the scene and the player's development

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I have no idea about KR scene/players. Can you compare each of them to EMEA/NA player so make me easier to imagine how good they are

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SeulgiVLR

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Decent players, decent tactics but the scene is heavily amateur based
Even in VS games, you can still see that somewhat of a lack of tac FPS experience even if theyre ex CS pros
Not sure who to compare them to but Peri is similar to hazed, old player (hes 32) but consistent as a smoke

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Stratos

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Is there any sign on Hanwha Life interest for investing in Valorant? Or are they still focusing on the LCK?

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SeulgiVLR

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No significant showing of HLE interest in valorant, will likely stick just to LCK

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Stratos

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ty for the info, looks like Damwon will still be the only LCK org with a Valorant team for KR scene next year since GenG and T1 are still in NA, hopefully other LCK orgs like maybe Kwandong Freecs would shows their interest for the KR scene

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KoreanOverlord

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Do you know what exodus means?

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SeulgiVLR

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my bad i used the wrong word :( meant influx

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Khalil said that Vision Strikers were the best team he's played against in his entire life and that Furia didn't do more than 8 rounds against them in scrims, I'm really sad that the Korean scene isn't very heated yet, maybe players should be hired by NA/EU/JP orgs looking for better opportunities, is there any prospect of improvement out there?

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SeulgiVLR

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VS i feel benefits heavily from controlling the tempo, and struggle when they cant (compare VS/ACE to VS/FNC)
At times you can tell the lack of fps experience even though theyre all experienced in csgo, especially with their mid-round struggles which has been present since mvp.pk
Let VS learn from their losses, each loss has made them stronger even if results dont reflect that :)

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hyunji

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would love to see SandBox

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Izanagi

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yo korean guys, how many teams in VS level can KR create? I don't know about the korean players, so I guess they're really good too, right?

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Obeeey

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A lot but that means they have to return to Korea (Xeta, Munchkin, Spyder, etc)

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KoreanOverlord

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Realistically I can see about 3 super teams that would be better than VS

sadly almost all of the players are in Japan or NA

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Izanagi

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do u know if the Japan scene is growing faster than KR? like how many viewership, salaries etc.

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Izanagi

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I'm curious bcs next year I'm moving to Japan and I'm planning to play some matches in KR too, I'm very excited to see the difference between BR/LATAM and KR/JPN queue.

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DeluluGavin

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you'll have to create a whole new riot account for KR servers because they have separate server whereby Japan's server (Tokyo) is part of APAC server

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AsianGuy

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You need a phone number to create an account for KR server right? I'm living in Korea right now, but I am playing in JP server.

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DeluluGavin

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idk I don't live in Korea HAHA but i just know that you need to create a new one

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KoreanOverlord

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korea queue is hard ass until immortal/radiant

asia serv hong kong have best players

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Izanagi

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sheesh, can u teach me how I can get access to the KR servers? I'm seeing a lot of ppl saying stuff about new accounts etc.

HK server I know will be hard to access

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DeluluGavin

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viewship is higher (more population), higher salaries (even though a team don't make a good results the pay is said to be good) and the growth I'm not sure since both scene is getting new teams and players

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AsianGuy

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I think Japan Scene would be a banger this 2022. A lot of roster changes recently. I'm so confused about Muchnkin as well. I queued up against him a few times already in JP server and he still has that CR on his ign.

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SeulgiVLR

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personally it feels similar to cis; lots of skilled players but rely mostly on amateur teams with one or two dominant orgs stunting growth with low viewership
with the fa's korea has right now, a vs caliber team can definitely be made (nuturn went from 2 veterans and 3 rookies coming from other games to taking down vs at one point)

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Yes, it's similar. Valorant is not the biggest shooter in those regions (one goes for CSGO, another one for Overwatch) and there are like 5 or 6 big orgs from both sides and just 2 of them investing (GMB, NAVI and DK). Let's see how it develops.

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thatpower

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so ez for peri

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Howard

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exodus?

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DeluluGavin

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he meant influx

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Any idea about Nuturn and its plans? Also about how many Korean teams we will see and actually strong ones going further in 2022?

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DeluluGavin

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Nuturn will most likely to comeback as the CEO said that the company will strive to become the representing brand of esports to the younger generation in the future. The article containing this quote was published on 22nd December 2021 so hopefully we'll see nuturn coming back next year

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DeluluGavin

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also, around 670 thousand usd was invested (PRE-A investment, idk much about what this is tho) to Nuturn by 2 companies so it seems like they got the fund for various plans.
any Korean who knows about all the investments and stuff can translate it better for you
source: https://www.fomos.kr/esports/news_view?entry_id=106538

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titanwithpp

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That's a lot of info, thanks a lot.

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Vortexy

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Hopefully with more and bigger orgs entering, Korean players will stay domestically and not have their already small talent be pulled away to other regions with orgs offering more money.