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comparing dog shit to good players

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#1
Mqrio

I have been seeing posts lately saying Keiko> Valyn, and I could not be more hornswoggled.

Are we seriously comparing someone who has been grouped all '25 and plays in the worst league to the best fragging igl itw?

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KGad03
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best fragging igl itw

I'm confused, you didn't mention Ethan or f0rsaken in your post

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Mqrio
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ethan had a good final map and thats all we can remember, forsaken is a good shout tho

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Galactc
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He's not that bad of a fragger to be fair but I will say valyn is definitely better

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Mqrio
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totally agree, he's obviously world calibur no doubt, but as far as fragging igls he isnt on the top of alot of peoples lists

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catNmouse
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asides from the finals, ethan wasn’t even that crazy of a fragger compared to nats, valyn or f0rsaken

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Divine_Thunder
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best fragging igl is nats

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Mqrio
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why does he have zero international results in the past three years if thats the case

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Divine_Thunder
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not a good argument when u are repping valyn.
nats has plumbers(except keiko)

valyn has the best america's team except jonahpee

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Mqrio
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Very good argument when u consider Valyn can make it past a group stage xD

kamo trexx penny sayf and jamppi are no plumbers btw

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Divine_Thunder
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so when u blame the entire team's blame on nats can i blame valyn for bottling every trophy this yr? hmmm

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Mqrio
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Jarvis translate this to English

#18
Nats_2nd_biggest_fan
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Jarvis, nuke this man

#22
Divine_Thunder
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Jarvis come up with the worst comeback

#25
Mqrio
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I legitimately could not decipher that response LOL

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Divine_Thunder
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alr

#16
catNmouse
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jonahp and leaf disasterclass on 2 of their most important games you can’t solely blame it on valyn (who played well) just like how you can’t blame liquids losses solely on nats

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Mqrio
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When we are comparing IGL's I can compare their international results across 2 years and determine that the better caller/player is the one that makes it out of groups and contends for titles 2nd Bangkok, 4th Toronto 3rd Shanghai. Vs grouped all '25 and 0-2 on the lan they auto quailed for playoffs, sure in a given tourney blaming a single player for wins or losses means nothing longevity wise. But when you compare the lan experience amongst the two it's not even close.

#21
Nats_2nd_biggest_fan
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I don't see valyn playing in Champs final??

#23
Mqrio
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reading comprehension </3

#26
Nats_2nd_biggest_fan
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2021 was 2 years ago what are you talking about, I clearly have reading comprehension skills, you imbecile

#24
catNmouse
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nats only started IGLING in 2025

#27
Mqrio
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that strengthens my argument for valyn i fear

#13
N1TF
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0/8 bait we know is better of the controller

#14
MindGoblin1
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isn't really Keiko's fault he just plays for a cursed org

#15
Asto3
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keiko still has a lot to prove before he gets to valyn’s level, who manages to frag more than him while being the team’s igl

#17
Yuniee44
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I have been seeing posts lately saying Aspas> Boaster, and I could not be more hornswoggled.

Are we seriously comparing someone who has been grouped all '25 and plays in the worst league to the best fragging igl itw?

#20
Mqrio
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lol

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