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EMEA FANS HARD TRUTH:

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#1
serot

Leo glazers: your goat isn't coming back 🥀
TH fans: your team isn't gonna win a grand final, much less make it to one atp 🥀
TL fans: nats visa wouldn't have saved your team 🥀
Other teams' fans: your teams are just bad and your region's talent is stuck in counterstrike 🥀

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TheOnion
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Damnnnn these replies are cooking you 🔥🔥🔥

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serot
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😤👊💥👻

#3
michaelisupset
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bump

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LocoMonteiro
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im pretty sure the word "stuck" doesnt work in that context

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serot
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why not?

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LocoMonteiro
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you cant be "stuck" in an esport thats better in every single aspect

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serot
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not sure what your opinion on CS has to do with the definition of stuck but alright man!

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LocoMonteiro
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ok time for an english lesson i guess
the word stuck in that context implies the talent are unsatisfied with being in CS instead of valorant and if it were up to them they would go to valorant which is just incorrect
the word you were looking for would be "concentrated"

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WorseSquash9
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You are both simultaneously incorrect. Nobody from CS would rather be playing valorant right now, but it's not better in every single aspect either. I assure you there are zero tier 1 valorant pros that would rather be playing CS.

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LocoMonteiro
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but it's not better in every single aspect either.

since the word better is subjective i will change it to bigger, CS esports are bigger in every aspect and thats a fact not opinion

I assure you there are zero tier 1 valorant pros that would rather be playing CS.

I love the assurance but i dont really value it considering FNS a guy who played both games and had way more success in Valorant has said on stream that he would have rathered been big in CS than in Valorant

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WorseSquash9
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FNS is gone bro, trust me I am painfully aware

and as for bigger in every aspect, valorant is a game with around half the airtime, but nearly the same hours watched, and is also still pretty damn young at only 5 years old. So like, yeah CS is currently bigger, but valorant is growing rapidly particularly in china (which often isn't counted for watchtime hours because it's harder to track)

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serot
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You are actually fighting ghosts man. "Stuck" is not an exclusively negative word.
I said stuck in CS as in "fixed to" the esport of CS, not as a negative slight towards the game itself. "Stuck" fit better because "concentrated" would allow the possibility that the players would be open to switch games which is not the point I am trying to make. I don't think any of the young talent in CS is looking to start a valorant career or they would have already made that switch.

Example: His girlfriend stuck by him in his worst moments.
This word does not come with exclusively negative connotations. Crazy that the self proclaimed english educator has no clue what he is talking about.

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LocoMonteiro
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Example: His girlfriend stuck by him in his worst moments.
This word does not come with exclusively negative connotations. Crazy that the self proclaimed english educator has no clue what he is talking about.

Of course it doesnt have exclusively negative connotations thats why i specified that in the context of your comment it does, you cant just justify it with an example of a completely different context/use of the word

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serot
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To clarify:

The only somewhat negative connotation comes from implying EMEA talent is stuck in a game that isn't valorant. This lack of talent is a negative to the European val scene, which is the entire point of the comment. You misinterpreted the comment as a slight on counter strike when I said nothing to imply that.

Same energy as saying "My bags are stuck at the airport security checkpoint." There is nothing inherently negative about where the bags are stuck at. Saying they are stuck means you rather the bags not be there. Would EMEA valorant fans not prefer having more talent in valorant over counter strike? I think you just misunderstood the comment.

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ant9
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honestly just stfu bro

#16
LocoMonteiro
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pipe down lil man

#17
sentinelmain377
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you are the average unnecessary reply that didnt bring anything to the convo

#19
LocoMonteiro
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https://www.vlr.gg/492431/fns-is-my-daddy/#1
are you surprised?

#22
ant9
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LOL this guy lives on vlr, go ahead and keep slobbering

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sentinelmain377
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you have 13815 posts on vlr.com brother, your entire existence hasn't brought anything to anyone

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waseetali9
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drx fan and talking about choking lol

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Conceit
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Honestly if Nats was always there I think Liquid could've been pretty good, but he wasn't and they didn't make it out of Swiss so the emea fans are just coping

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sentinelmain377
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dont forget nats visa issues isnt just nats not being there. It is also about nearly zero prac time for a new meta btw (while AMER and CN teams got 4 weeks and PAC got 3 weeks)

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Conceit
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I didn't forget, it just doesn't change what happened

#18
Shadrach
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Come on, if nats is there from the start, BLG wouldnt had a chance and they will go 2-0 instead of facing prx...

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delighted
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"2-0"

#25
KiwiJuice
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stuck in cs while some b tier match gets more viewer ship than the average masters match.

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delighted
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stop being in a valorant forum if ur just gonna glaze cs

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AZDZ
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DRX fan talking about choking? 5-6 merchants now cant even qualify for toronto.

Stax and Buzz never won an international trophy for like 3 years with DRX. The year they left the org, they won their first masters. So DRX might be cursed as well atp. Sell spot to someone else, save my boy Mako.

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