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To the guys that say b0i should stay

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#2
dolphincandy
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LMFAOOO

#3
glxy_room
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He was blind…

#5
HardStuckGold
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Yeah trigger discipline my guy no point randomly spraying halfway through ur blind while running

#36
edtheking12
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he expected the other team to clear him, so he took a gamble and tried to shoot and damage someone. imagine if rise checked boi's spot straight up the bat? do you think his "trigger discipline" would help?

#43
yowazzaa
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I don't think you understand the point of trigger discipline, it's a gamble, just like spraying like a madman when you're blind. (btw if he just kept his crosshair still he may have gotten more, but anyway) yes if Rise cleared him he gets nothing but if they didn't, he gets 2-3. That's the ENTIRE point of playing trigger discipline. It's always a gamble. I agree people are exaggerating how bad this clip is, but regardless.

#45
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yeah its also a gamble spraying everywhere to at least damage the opponents. b0i took that gamble and managed to get away with one kill, in which he thought was more worth it than gambling to not get anything. hes a pro player and youre not, so stfu

#10
Softy
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as an anaylst, he should anticipate flashes in while playing close corners in t1 match

#42
boea0
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there was a split second he wasn't blind and he could have turned away from the other skye flash in that split second. but he is slow so he got blinded again
rewatch in 0.25x then you can see when he was not blinded and could have dodged the flash

#46
Softy
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he is slow??? he has fookin 754 Edpi. He is not even a boomer like hiko to be late lmao

#47
boea0
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his sense is so high bruh if he has T1 reaction time he could have easily dodged the flash

#4
positive_dude
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wdym

#6
nonstop
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true man he should've just killed 3 while full blind 2x

#7
HardStuckGold
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or not shot because he was blind anyways?

any other Tier 1 player would have better trigger discipline than him

#8
nonstop
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incredibly ez to say this in hindsight, they're full executing the site and he's expecting to get cleared.
what's going through his head in that clip is probably "i'm dead but i'm gonna try my best to take one or two with me at least"

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HardStuckGold
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So i'm going to run while shooting and spray at someone while taking 2 blinds consecutively?

#13
nonstop
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idk mane this is a weird nitpick, he got his 1 in a shitty spot after being 2x flashed.
could he have played it better? probably, but there are other misplays he made so much worse than this throughout the series
i was rooting for rise anyway tho so idc what happens to b0i

#32
hekzy
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Running would give hima bigger spread which is good because he doesn't know where he is aiming at

#31
MoonshineRB
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any other tier 1 player

i don't consider him a tier 1 player tbf

#11
Tooker
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The guy made a stupid mistake. He’s playing his first tournament with his new team that just so happens to be the deciding tournament for 100T this year. I’d be surprised if he didn’t make a few stupid plays. Give the guy some time.

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HardStuckGold
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"first tournament" no

It's been 2 weeks since they last played in the same tournament, there's so much time for the team chemistry to bond (also was an analyst for like 5+ months)

I'd say he's been given enough time

#21
Supr3meGucci
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first tournament excuses dont apply in valorant lol. there are such few tournaments that new players HAVE to perform well instantly

#12
PotatoCh1ps
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The players in Indian silver lobby used to be better than him

#14
Softy
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true dat

#37
Ibis
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Why do I often see people from South Asia hype their ranked up so much? Like cool maybe your silvers are better than EU/NA but your radiants Are worse than low immo Eu

#44
yowazzaa
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Ignore them, they're idiots. I play in SEA. Yes, silver/gold has smurfs. Stop whining. Every region has smurfs. Having played in SEA and EU, both regions are roughly the same. EU Gold I felt was a bit more aim-reliant than SEA gold. Pretty much it. Our silver/golds are NOT better EU/NA. Just patently untrue.

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umm.. can they just replace boi with steel with same agents for next match or two?

#35
unknown_trash
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Steel is inactive and benched

#16
PotatoCh1ps
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They could have taken literally any ranked player who is comfortable with astra/viper and would have still 2-0ed rise with 1/10 of the training of boi

#18
Areyannnnn
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What an idiot!! (The guy who made this thread)

#19
bhc
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No wonder your name fits so well. Straight braindead gold player post. What b0i did is 100% the correct play to make there.

  1. Anticipates that they are gonna clear him because the bird from skye tells Rise that there is a player that got flashed in the vicinity. <--- This causes Rise to be cautious and clear every corner
  2. By running and strafing while shooting, he's trying to live and survive the longest amount of time so the rest of his team can rotate while also trying to do damage and maybe get a kill or two because running accuracy is broken in this game.
  3. Looks bad because no one hugged the right sidewall. If a rise player hugged that wall and tried to go onto the site, he would've been killed
#20
HardStuckGold
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ok

1.) rewatch it, noone was going to clear him. There were only 2 people left in A main, one was droning and the other one was far away. the killjoy was going to close door, skye was going to follow Derrek's drone towards left gen and I assume shanks was going to play dice,
2.) he is spraying at nothing. the first blind and came and he was blinded again before he regained vision, so he was essentially spraying at nothing. instead, sitting in the corner and just hiding gave a higher chance of him getting multi frags. i see people do this in iron all the time lmfao, this kid has the mental and thinking of a iron
3.)same as my point 1, not a single person was looking at him. the skye flash by neptune flashed near top gen, which could have been hell or anywhere else on site which is where people would expect, not close right

Anyways, why would an astra ever be in that position? her job is to put stars and assist her teammates, not sit in a corner and get frags

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Bro when he's blind, how would Boi know whether he is gonna get cleared or not?
Secondly, he sprayed coz he didn't know how many were in site. Secondly, he knows that the Sova is droning but since he is blind he wouldn't know how many are on site already.
His position is wrong coz Astra stars are very useful for retakes and he should not be sitting in the corner to farm for kills.

And your point 1 is not valid at all coz when you're flashed you don't know if you are going to get cleared. So spraying for damage is not wrong at all. If he wasn't flashed then he could have held his trigger discipline but that wasn't the case.

#24
HardStuckGold
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which exactly leads to the point
if you're blind, then theres no point spraying. he was blinded before he even saw anyone so he should just sit in the corner and stay disciplined. you see so many people in radiant play their trigger discipline (example was TL vs G2 on ascent aswell I think, l1nk didn't shoot)

and what you said about astra's position was just a paradox?

#26
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True, my last statement on his position may be contradictory to the statement, but I was just trying to defend Boi on what he did in that situation.

I have seen people get flashed and sometimes people do intend to spray to get some kills. Haven't you seen some players do some insane sprays while they're blind and manage to get 2 or 3 kills? That is what Boi was trying to do in that situation.

#27
HardStuckGold
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yes people do this alot but they aren't in b0i's position. Usually they're in like A main or smtg in a close angle where people MUST be peeking to kill you. in this situation he didn't know whether people were on site or not so he would have to be spraying around the whole site

#28
Blazieboy
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It was a panic infused reaction. He sprayed down thinking he could get some kills but in the end he sprayed too wide and could get only one. Since there are only 2 ways in how this could've ended, I think Boi getting one kill is not too bad when he's trapped in that position

#29
HardStuckGold
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not really
1.) he doesn't get checked, play trigger discipline, either gets 1 or 2 and delays plant
2.) he gets checked and dies
3.) he sprays and gets the one kill
4.) he sprays and doesnt get a kill
5.) he sprays and gets 2 or more

#30
Blazieboy
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Getting 2 or delaying the plant would've been valuable but since he was blinded I think it would be a tough choice to decide whether to spray or not.

#23
LouBag
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Dude says he sees this in iron all the time.

Why are you in iron and pretending like you know better than a pro?

Boi is a t2 player, but he isn’t some random scrub. Half of what you said would have been IMPOSSIBLE for him to know.

Bad take my guy

#25
HardStuckGold
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my guy he played it like how an iron would play it lol

got flashed, oh no.
gets flashed again, omg im gonna start randomly spraying and hope I get a kill

I would expect a t2 player to be able to help his teammate, but I just don't see this guy providing any impact for the team

#39
Ibis
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Its easy to call that from our perspective after it happened dude. You only hating on him because he is b0i

#33
bhc
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no way you tell me to rewatch it and then make these points. here let me explain how your points are wrong easy enough for your pea brain to understand. Also, idk if that iron comment is towards me but if it was then ig getting top 3000 before leaving for college is because of my iron thinking.

  1. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF RISE WAS GONNA CLEAR HIM OR NOT. HE DOESN'T KNOW THAT and as I said before, "Anticipates that they are gonna clear him because the bird from skye tells Rise that there is a player that got flashed in the vicinity. " The first flash comes in which lands nowhere near the top of gen like you claimed it did, but instead right outside of the a-main entrance. Put it on 0.5x speed and you have to be blind to think that landed near top gen. The first blind is typically used to push people off angles and in rise's case, it pushed ethan off his angle from heaven.

  2. For your second point, his thought process is probably "oh I got flashed, they are gonna try and rush in to clear me. I'm gonna spray and strafe around because I am this close to the entrance, I'm bound to get a kill if they rush me." Him sitting in the corner does nothing for the team as by the time the second blind was over, the drone would've been not blind and checked him which leads to either poised or supamen to kill him

  3. From b0i's point of view, he CAN'T SEE THROUGH WALLS LIKE WE CAN(SHOCKER I KNOW), so there is no way for him to know if they are gonna clear him or not. 100t typically plays the A site for retake instead of trying to fight off a 5 man rush and losing it everytime.

To answer your question about why an astra would ever be in that position. The past five rounds, 100t conditioned rise into thinking that no one plays close, especially not boi as he usually chills heaven while ethan plays tree. He most likely chose to play there to catch them off guard and get some eco frags. personally the mistake is not where he was but why he chose that round to play there. Rise is on an eco and if he dies without getting a kill, they give away a rifle and the round becomes loseable.

I just spent time to reply to this idiot but oh well.

#34
HardStuckGold
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Alright I watched it in 0.25 speed

1.) the skye flash literally blinded Ethan on heaven so idk what you're talking about. The SECOND flash landed above in the middle of site, but theres no way because there can be a guy back gen or behind dice.

2.) Derrek's drone wasn't even facing him, it was going towards tree/gen

As for your response to my question, you must be on some high drugs. b0i literally played that same position the round before

#40
bhc
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Why do people who can't even watch the game properly try and criticize players playing at the highest level.

The FIRST flash is from RISE, it blinds ethan and makes him get off his heaven angle, the SECOND flash comes in from ETHAN HIMSELF in the form of a quick pop flash to try and stall rise. THIS ENDS UP BLINDING BOI causing him to have to resort to spraying.

Idk how many times I have to repeat myself to get this through your thick head but BOI DOESN'T KNOW IF THEY ARE GOING TO HARD CLEAR HIM OR NOT. he can't see through walls like we, the spectators, can so the logical thing to do would be to take the chance and spray as they try and rush onto site.

You act like your thinking is the 100% correct play in hindsight but I guarantee you that if you were in that situation you wouldn't have done shit let alone get at least a kill. I genuinely wanna watch your gameplay so I can pick apart every little thing you do.

#38
zzyawnzz
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Nothing wrong with what he did there, the chances of him being not spotted after getting double blinded is pretty low and he went for the only guy he had vision of for 0.5 second

You can tell these forums are filled with golds and plats that don't know anything about the game lol

#41
yaiima0
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Lol so many pro players on these forums criticizing a pro players decision making xD.

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