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I'm so sick of being hardstuck Bronze

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#1
joicie

Hi, so just for context Valorant is my first ever video game that requires mouse and keyboard. Before September of 2024, I've never played any video game let alone an FPS. My rank right now is Bronze 3 and I've been stuck b3 for all of 2025 basically, its been impossible to get out of no matter how hard I try. I used to have a duo to constantly queue with but they've ranked up to Gold now and I'm unable to queue with them anymore. Solo queue in Bronze is actually impossible, especially in EU ranked. Most of the time there are no comms, or players that don't even put down util. I usually main controller, and I've been told that KD is essential to ranking up and controller is not the best role to boost KD, but I'm just stuck in a position where if I don't play smokes, either no one plays smokes or they don't know how to smoke properly! What's more frustrating is that even when I do play smokes, its difficult to coordinate when people are no comms.

Another problem is that because this is my first fps, people try to tell me a lot how to play/what I'm doing wrong. As helpful as this is, it often comes off like I can't do anything right! I get told "you've smoked too early, we're not even on site yet" and "you've smoked too late you should be smoking before we're on site", all in the same game! Its become incredibly frustrating, and also de-motivating at the same time.

I set a goal to hit Gold this year and now that its April it feels more and more hopeless that I'll achieve this. I don't have great aim, its decent and I'm trying to work on that, I've also been told my peeking needs work, and I am trying to work on that, but it all feels really hopeless. I used to be able to queue ranked over and over and over but now I just stop playing for the day if I lose one.

I've also tried CS as a desperate attempt to try another fps that I might enjoy, but CS just wasn't fun for me at all and I enjoy the util element of Valorant anyway.
I know tips and tricks to improve, I'm just feeling depressed about all of this, and being bad at Valorant just feels like another thing in my life that I'm not any good at.
Can anyone offer their experiences? Anyone who's felt and experienced the same and managed to get out? Thank you!

#2
xKiqn
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Yeah I have the same issue, although im not stuck in bronze 3, im stuck in asc1.

#60
precipitateng
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same cuh im hardstuck radiant as well ts pmo

#3
termtermtermterm
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allat to be hardstuck? LMAO

#4
cameran
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i had the same issue dw it happens,d ont focus on your rank too much. i was hardstuck bronze for a year and a half

#22
joicie
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idk how u had the strength to keep going! good on you xxx hope same goes for me!

#5
irenic_
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dont fill smokes, who cares its ranked.

play the character that you love the most and stick to them
practice ur mechs. (range + dms/tdms)
you will get there.

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joicie
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funny thing is i do love playing controller! I play a lot of astra and I find it super fun, but also terribly aware that astra is one of the worse agents to rank up with! Used to main a lot of Clove but the clove nerfs are hitting me HARD
Thank you for the motivation though! Means a lot xxx

#26
Semen-1
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clove nerfs aren't that bad, if you really wanna play smokes and rank up go omen and clove probably two of the easiest characters to rank up consistently with. Learn to smoke quick on omen and go practice ur mechs

#53
localkoolkid
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yea im ngl Omen is perfect for working on game sense and playing a smoker, you have pretty much global smokes like Astra, a blind to set up your team mates like astra with her stun (or for yourself), and all around he is better then Clove and probably Astra in ranked.

I have SHIT aim (like a 10% hs rate) but I average a 1.4 kd, just need to have good game sense and positioning and the game becomes a lot easier to get kills and rank up, just takes time.

#13
akcolade
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you arent hardstuck you just havent put in enough playtime, your tracker literally looks like mine minus 200 hours of playtime: https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/akcolade%23oink/performance?platform=pc&playlist=competitive&season=16118998-4705-5813-86dd-0292a2439d90

#7
LordItachi
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Change from smokes to Senti , you would have an easier time and atleast frag more and if you overperform maybe win a game yourself. Also Your aim would be calmer etc. For this you can watch a guide or two if you already don't know how to.
Learn cypher setups and kj setups for maps . You're set.

#18
joicie
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I've tried kj and don't find her super fun but I can play a little cypher! I'm very map dependent on whether I'll pick cypher or not, sunset is my most confident map to play cypher on!
Thank you for the tips and motivation! Means a lot xxxx

#29
unknown_trash
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I agree with the person above. I played sentinel only to climb out of bronze back in 2022. I am not great yet but I have good gamesense imo. It's all about confidence. Players with good aim get confidence through duelists where they do not get punished for taking head on fights. I have awful aim so I am not like that. I enjoy getting a free kill in the back or to a fully blinded person or through a smoke while they are revealed. That gives me confidence. I didn't touch the smokes role initially in low elo because I felt less confident on it. Now I feel very comfortable on the role. You need to find the agent and the role that you feel confident in playing. Do you want to play sentinels, and learn good setups that give you free kills on defense? Will that give you confidence? Or do you want to play an initiator that can reveal and/or blind an enemy to secure info for you? And maybe even some kills when fighting. Do you want to play a duelist who can allow you to take a fight and swing it in your favour with your util? Or do you want to play a controller to have that freedom of playing around a smoke and outplay your enemies that way? You have to find what you enjoy and what you feel confident on. It takes some time, and it may not be fruitful at first. But as someone who has gone through the low elo trenches, don't be afraid to experiment and find what kind of player you want to be. The fighter, the flanker, the support player, the anchor, or whoever you want to be. Find the role you want to play and can allow you to play to the best of your ability and you will undoubtedly rank up and see results.

#8
temi
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dont fill
work on ur mechaniocs... no spraying, strafe, tap burst and improve ur crosshair placement, no w or s when peeking
dont expect comms
f the pressure
u can win with no smokes up until gold
go into each round with an idea of what u want to do, simple ideas
if u dont feel like playing ranked, play swift or unrated and focus on just one thing to pracc each time
u can build the vibe up by hyping after the round, like some1 makes a mistake just say forget it n move on small stuff like that

also maybe spending sometime in aimlabs since its ur first kbm game to build mouse comfort, doesn't have to be a super strict playlist (at least its what i do)

i started playing mid Jan on kbm hit gold tonight so it deffo works

u got this

edit: play tejo... easiest agent to play, drone once, stun once, rockets to take space and even stall/win postplant or play duellist an op, there's 0 coordination just be wary of flash util agents and iso

#23
joicie
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Definitely working on my peeking a lot recently! I have played tejo a little and I've performed okay with him, is this my sign to grind tejo lmao
but honestly thank you for the tips! Helps a lot xxx

#9
MrHyphon
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Do not pressure yourself to get a specific rank, as long as you get comfortable you will find success

#10
flnnss
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Just work on refining your mechanics in lower ranks, and honestly, don't play smokes unless you're playing clove, which allows you to frag out and carry your team. Also, try not to worry about your rank, work on your mental so you don't feel discouraged, and you'll get to gold in no time.

#24
joicie
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I used to play loadsss of clove but the smoke nerfs are killing me :(( but defo working on mechanics and what not! Thanks for tips tho, its refreshing to see people nice and encouraging on here xxx

#11
FrogGrenade
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If you are bronze I highly reccomend playing reyna and just aim with some coms but dont igl. Trust me the people in bronze can be out aimed with focus, a not shit PC, and some deathmatch.

#27
joicie
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this is a very me thing but I'm scared of playing duelist, i have no problem playing entry but i'm scared of getting out dueled and getting flamed by teammates for not fragging :( will start playing more DMs though, i mostly warm up in the range until i feel confident haha
but thank you for the tips! it means a lot xxx

#45
akimb0_
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scared of what, dude? its not like youre going to die irl. and if the problem are the other 4? who cares about what they think, youre probably not going to see or even hear them ever again

#56
gluesniffer
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Hey man, I also used to struggle with this a lot! I grinded aimlabs, the range, DMs, learned counter-strafing, etc. but still was stuck in bronze for a while because I was the world’s most passive player and baiter for fear of getting flamed and dying…

I made an alt account and ONLY played the ego duelists (Reyna/Jett, this was 2023) until I hit 20 while full sending it and entrying on attack, making sure I was peeking on defense and taking first contact on attack and overheating A LOT (there’s actually a league term for this: limit testing). You’ll naturally learn a nice balance between too passive and overheat.

I think it was some kind of exposure therapy haha because I managed to place gold while being in plat lobbies while my old acc was hard stuck bronze after way too many games…

I know it’s scary (I’ve been there!), but you gotta get the confidence, and if you don’t have it, you still gotta take those duels or else you’re not going to get the experience to improve. Good luck!

#61
FrogGrenade
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Start off with unrated! Playing reyna in unrated helped my confidence a lot. Maybe watch some woohoojin videos about gunfight hygiene. Believe in yourself!

#12
espeon
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in these lower ranks mechanics are probably what will get you to at least diamond, so having to learn these intricacies of characters or specific lineups or anything like that you can put on backburner and just solely focus on shooting back

#28
joicie
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I consistently get 25/30 in the range on medium difficulty, but I panic spray a LOT when enemies are flooding into site/having to retake
Definitely working on my mechanics, thank you for the tips! means a lot xx

#43
espeon
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what i recommend is going into a dm and just focusing on strafes and hitting your shots consistently, range is good for a quick warmup but dm will really drill those core mechanics into place

#15
Yistyy
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Ignore most of these replies. If you're stuck in bronze you gotta focus on your mechs. No way around it. Once you can win the majority of your gunfights you will rank up like crazy.

#37
joicie
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genuine question, I warm up in the range usually (will move on to doing so in DMs) but do you think aimlabs will help? i've heard from different people that they found aimlabs really unhelpful, and tend to just click heads in the range xx
thanks for the tip though! much appreciated xx

#40
Yistyy
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yes aimlabs can help if you do the right routine. make sure to do the right exercises tho as a lot of them are a waste of time. find a routine that incorporates exercises for tracking, micro adjustments, and moving your mouse on the x-axis for headshots.

it's not that aimlabs is unhelpful, just some people are able to get good aim without it such as by grinding deathmatches.

another underrated tip i don't see many ppl mentioning is to watch higher rated players and specifically pay attention to how they move and peek angles. and you can take this a step further by recording a vod of yourself playing a ranked game and making another post showing us all. the ppl of vlr are actually pretty nice about this sort of thing and can actually highlight a lot of errors in the way you take engagements besides aim, such as your crosshair placement and peeks.

#66
fatdaddy
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I found this really helpful...

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1obrJLBc0TkIwXSmILZbzsu1MAhjdCQXhTxkKxbukEZo/

#52
archetype
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aimlabs is not worth it imho (source: peaked radiant and hit imm~imm3+ on multiple regions)
personally the movement in aimlabs valorant scenarios is completely different and feels very unresponsive.
the drills where you expressly only use your mouse can be useful, but i think they won't necessarily translate well into real gameplay. there are loads of examples of high ranked aim trainer players not reaching the same skill level in actual fps games.
that doesn't mean aimlabs is useless, maybe it's the fit for you. but i personally did not benefit from it.

i think dm/tdm is the best way to practice your mechanics because you get to focus on your movement (which imo is the most important mechanic) and in the case of dms you learn crosshair placement and angles/off-angles on maps you'll play in ranked.

something nobody has said yet in this thread is that you actually have a lot more time in a 1v1 fight than you think. you can take a decent amount of time to line up a shot, but most people just panic.

#16
shzuo
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Show your tracker

#64
shzuo
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Your tracker score is not good which means that's your elo. You haven't played that much so is normal for someone who is learning.

Valorant was my first competitive FPS in life, I started playing in the end of 2021 and had a similar history as you. You need to grind, focus mainly on your aim and grinding you will pass the ranks, it takes time. My aim went SO BETTER when I started playing TDM, I think you should play a lot, and pick agents you would like to try to get better.

You play controller as I play as well, controllet is a very ingrateful role, it should be easier for you if you play initiator (like Gekko or Tejo, on low elo they're broken), but play with the agents you like.

In Valorant you need constancy. I stopped playing because of university and I'm on elo hell as well, my peak was diamond and I'm stuck on silver rn (not playing but played some months ago), even that I'm so much better than the people on my elo.

https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/shizuo%23555/

#17
Yameroooo
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to rank up from bronze all you need to do is just click heads

#19
iGoByAFewNames
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Who cares about roles agent and what not, face the reality, if you want to rank up quick you need to outaim everyone. Sit in dm (not tdm), running people down while looking at spawnpoints on minimap(important in ranked cuz no one comms), farm dms, you're gonna match up against ascendants and immos. If there's a sound whore, just shit on him. I guarantee this will refine every mechanic, it's not very fun but it's the price for improvement. Also don't listen to music, you need to lock in

#31
joicie
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already don't listen to music so there's that! but thank you for the tips, means a lot xx

#21
m4
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The system isn't designed for you to move up. People on this site don't understand what a bell curve is. If you place outside and towards the bottom end of the curve, the system has a lot to throw at you and will make it extremely hard to move up.

As far as what you need to fix? Everything. Being in Bronze, at the bottom end of the bell curve, means you likely do all things incorrect. Probably the most honest advice you'll get when you read this.

The advice you'll get is to go watch YouTube videos, woohjin or whoever the flavor of the moment is and they will say all you need to do is watch. Watch pros... blah blah blah. Here's the problem with that advice for you, if everyone is doing it, then you're sort of screwed. The world does not freeze when you are learning new things. Everyone will be trying just as hard as you to move up.

The only way to differentiate yourself from those people who are trying just as hard as you is identifying the things in YOU that YOU are not willing to do in order to get better. Then you do them, even if they feel crazy. You know why? There's a really good chance that those people who in a similar position will also not do those things for the same reasons as you. And that's how you find your way passed the crowd.

At Bronze, you can throw a stone in any direction and hit something that will put you ahead of your peers. You just have to be willing to find out what those things are and convince yourself they are worth doing.

#32
unknown_trash
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Is THE m4 seriously talking down to a person in the big 2025???? Go back to describing the significance of the geographical context of icebox for pro teams please. Your input is neither useful or significant. You just said a whole lot of nothing. Your entire essay could be summarised to "work harder to get better". But then again, you have a habit of rambling on about irrelevant nonsense, don't you?

#33
m4
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Echo... Echooooo...

If you interpreted what I said as "work harder to get better" then you're just baiting. Nice try though... It's really spacey in here, living in this brain of yours rent free.

Shoutout to Uncleben!

#46
akimb0_
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I pray to God every day for the moment when you stop sending messages because you've passed away

#50
m4
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What if my power just goes out for an extended period of time?

#51
m4
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Is this an alt?

https://imgur.com/a/vzot6N1 ... why forget to capitalize but you throw on the question mark? doesn't this look strange?

#34
m4
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The dumb are always so confident.

#36
m4
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One last thing, thank you for this. It helps me in ways you don't know :)

#62
unknown_trash
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THREE REPLIES TO ME??? I am honoured. but seriously, it is almost like you type before you think. oh wait.... you probably do ahahahahhaha. this makes you look insane. anyways keep talking to the wall because you can rest assured that I am NOT taking criticism from a clown like you EVER IN MY LIFE.

#42
joicie
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thank you for the tips! much appreciated xx

#25
7oblivion
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dm till u can reach top 6 all the time + spam clove

#41
joicie
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i actually used to spam clove loads!! I posted my tracker on a reply earlier so you can have a look xx but I spammed clove when I was literally like iron3 and couldn't hit shots to save my life lol
i still play clove occasionally but the smoke nerfs are rough dude
but definitely will take your suggestion and play DMs a LOT more, thanks for the tip, genuinely much appreciated xx

#30
Ayaya0
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Valorant ain't for you try a different game

#35
Yuranagi
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my suggestion would be

  1. Play the game for 24h everyday trust me at some point you'll be better
  2. watch some pro/streamers on how they play the game/situation try to learn from it and apply it

or just play with your friend and have fun even if you don't win a lot at least you're having fun

#38
joicie
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i think u mean 2 to 4 hours? haha xx
and tbh i actually do watch a lot of VCT/ valorant streams! even went to see it live :))
i think one of my bigger problems is panicking/spraying a lot when I know I have the aim/game sense to combat it, but that's something i just need to work on for myself and not a lot of tips can fix that lol
but thank you so much for the tips! really appreciate it, means a lot!!

#39
Wezzaa
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When I was trying to rank up I used to just do a bit of aim labs and then the range, tracking and flicking on aim labs honestly helps a ton. Play a couple dms or tdms before u go into a comp game and if u feel tilted after a game at all just take a break off because it’ll make things worse. One last thing, as shitty as it is if u have really bad teammates that just run it down bait them because at the end of the day you’ll clean up kills after them

#44
joicie
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after all the comments I'm definitely downloading aimlabs after this! I didn't before because I've heard stories of players not finding value in it
also will be playing lots more dms!
general EU lobbies are just super rough because no one entries, no one holds plant, no one plays correct post plant and what not :((
but thank you so much for the tips! genuinely super appreciated and helpful xx

#47
Xplojd
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u ahve 100H playtime on this game and u talk about hardstuck.
i have like 3k hours on this game and like 5k matches. and my playstyle its betwen d2 to asc1. and im not even say im hardstuck.
https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/Xploid%236789/overview?platform=pc&playlist=competitive

#67
joicie
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I think part of it for me was also friends ranking up without me that made me feel hardstuck, I know I haven't played the game super long but I deadass played with people who never play valorant, don't use util, and crouch spray everything that placed a full rank higher than me when doing placements, it all just felt super depressing and de-motivating, thats why I made this post :)

#48
Notbaka
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Same I was stuck in diamond for a year then I aim trained void reviewed got to immo and then stuck there since forever atp I quit. Not everyone has talents for example I started playing FIFA at the same time as Valorant. Now I am good enough to actually go Pro in FC25

#49
vexdia
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just continue playing the game

#54
Rev1va1
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the more you play the better you will get. it's how it works. just play consistently if you really want to get out

#55
Idoski
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As a wise banana once said, if youre below gold, just lock who you wanna play and outaim everyone. If you keep practicing your aim, you'll slide out of bronze. Bonus points if you have decent gamesense and can outtrick the opponents.

#57
Skyns
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insta lock reyna and see how fast you rank up

#58
guuz
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please just play a gamemode with instant respawns (dm, tdm, even escalation) and work on your mechanics
this will get you all the way to gold/plat

krunker.io was my first fps and mouse/keyboard game, and every gamemode has instant respawns so it forces you to improve quickly. when i tried val i spammed faster modes like spike rush until mechanics were all comfortable. you can't be thinking about roles and utility in competitive if you're not confident in your mechanics to even think about being duelist occasionally

#59
minipeeka
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watch woohoojin, took me from hardstuck silver to plat in 3 months

#63
kamui2041
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was hardstuck iron for a good year, just became a mentality shift from these lobbies r so hard/stupid/etc. to how can i get better even if im losing. ended up peaking g3 before i fell of a cliff tbh

#65
Soddalele
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like most people say here, work on mechanics first, also work on different things, idk how this translates to lower ranks but if i stay on the same "warmup routine" i stagnate and start playing worse.

astra is one of these agents that i loved to play before but sadly she is most effective when u have people that can communicate when they need stun/pull/smokes cross map.

this is the reason i just dont play her anymore, ive been bouncing around A1->immo2 for a couple years depending on how much i play.
Playing the game regularly will eventually make u rank up. being good at shooting bots in range wont necessarily transfer to ingame either.

same goes for aimlabs and aim trainers, it helps u get comfy with mouse and will improve aim but it doesnt necessarily automaticly transfer over to valorant.

EDIT: To end, rank can be a good way to see your improvement over time but if its the sole focus, your gonna end up being frustrated and eventually it just kills your joy of playing the game.
i.e, everytime you boot the game up u play to improve your gameplay, not necessarily your rank, u cant always control the outcome of a match unless ur smurfing.

#68
joicie
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thank you for the advice! means a lot xxx

#69
danii1
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When I started playing I got Iron, it was also my first FPS game on pc. So I kinda know where ur coming from.

It all just comes down to if you're having fun and it's not burning you out or anything, then you will improve automatically. But I always played a ton of deathmatches, even unrateds. If you play lower stakes gamemodes, I think it's easier to focus on certain things you want to improve on.

Also playing one role that you're set on and you have fun with is very important too. Just play one role consistently more than other roles. But again, this is just coming from my experience.

Now I'm Immortal and you can definitely get there too. Trust me :D

#70
Miruuu
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In my experience (in terms of seeing improvement):

  1. Sometimes less is more. 2 games with good vibes is worth more than 5 games that are draining.
  2. Treat your teammates the same as you would yourself. You as a bronze shouldn't worry about other bronze players nitpicking your plays. Just learn from those better and learn AT YOUR OWN PACE.
  3. Better to hard focus on one specific thing instead of multiple. If your aim isn't the best, break it down and focus on one aspect (i.e peeking, crosshair placement, etc.)

Really the main thing is making sure you have some fun. Even if it's ranked, at the end of the day it's just a game, if you aren't having fun then there's no point playing. Having motivation will always be a big factor in improvement. Gl dude.

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