Gentlemates anchors

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Congo1

click 3rd lowest rating in emea 0.72

zyppan 7th lowest 0.79

rest of the team is 1.0 or higher

I like the players but this kind of performance is unacceptable. They should probably be replaced for stage 2

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gamergirl

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its INSANE how they justify replacing robbiebk (one of the only emea igl talents) but keep zyppan and click

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Congo1

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tbf kamyk has been their best. so adding him wasnt a bad thing.

Minny, Kamyk, Kada is a good core. You can build around that. Look what lewn did for BBL. If mates had that they would be much stronger

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brahianv

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what matter is results if they are not winning with him then it was a bad choice

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Congo1

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???

Do you think they were finishing top 4 before or what?

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gamergirl

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the worst part is BBL is so fucking greedy they will probably keep lewn and comeback

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Congo1

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i struggle seeing that work. both players are mega aggressive. maybe lewn on flex? idk i dont think it would be optimal at all

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gamergirl

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either way bbl will gatekeep lewn behind a huge buyout

best duelist in t2 rn is probably best (besides comeback)

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MrBlooBloom

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But Pcfic are like 90% sure they'll win ascension tho. Why would Comeback go to BBL?

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gamergirl

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idk how thats gonna go down ngl, maybe pcfic go independent again? idk

rn they are bbl academy

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MrBlooBloom

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Yeah I would imagine that's what happens bc otherwise they just cannot ascend, I thought BBL only did this to get scrims, which is a good thing for Pcfic as well

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Congo1

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its still unclear whether they are affiliate or academy. and academy cant ascend

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Congo1

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Northeast has some great aimers who are a bit raw but available. Razziss, chaza, wanzeru. but i think only razziss is 18. And im not sure how easy they can get visa for russians.

also visas for good turks like izzy and best might be hard too. Also buyouts might be a problem since their orgs could actually ascend

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Robbie was very on/off with his fragging, was very good against Apeks but got steamrolled on the other games I wouldnt blame them. As far as performance goes that 2nd map of Haven definitely did not look like a Gentle Mates map pick. Also I dont think we are giving BBL enough credit, theyve been disrupting all of M8's plans on Haven all map making it difficult to run something structured and since they dont have appreciable veteran talent (Zyppan is NOT a veteran bro got hard carried by my goat Suy in Copenhagen) they break under pressure and welp we saw how that went

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Anguibok

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Who would be the 2 guy that replace them ?

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Congo1

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a lot of good T2 talent out there. Could also ask guys like ardiis, Scream, natank who are FAs.

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Neonfreak

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Teams already have made a lot of changes early on in the season, I think the team just needs time. Zyppan has had previous highs with old FPX/Navi and is in bad form rn on a different role and Click is a massive talent that hasn't started well in his VCT career. People gotta relax on replacing players everytime they have a bad stage

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Congo1

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Brother... Gentlemates MUST make top 8 in stage 2. They cannot risk it all just to develop a player.

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Neonfreak

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Instead you propose they risk it on other T2 talent coming in and performing well when they could easily get worse. My only point is that you know the ceiling on Zyppan and Click is high and they just aren't performing right now

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Congo1

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I feel like you are coping. They got 2 full stages. kickoff and stage 1. Thats is plenty of proof that it isnt working for them rn. These players arent delivering. How many more splits are you gonna sack?

They need to act. Now.

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Anguibok

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They should have pick an aca team