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Tenz vs S1mple

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#1
ChrisGG

I never watched nor played csgo so im curious who is better/more dominanr S1mple in csgo or Tenz in Valorant?

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Salafi_Scholar
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Too early to tell in the case of TenZ. S1mple has been a top player for many years now we'd have to have more data to make the comparison.

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ChrisGG
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but based on what we've seen of tenz in iceland and Berlin is he comparable or maybe even better than s1mple in his prime or not?

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V0sotros
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It’s a pretty unfair comparison because they play very different roles, S1mple is an awper through and through, he’s basically like Waddell and tries to get an awp any time he can get it, while TenZ is more of a hyper aggressive rifler/duelist, and also the relative difficulty to pull off a carry job like TenZ does sometimes compared to cs. I’d say because of the way duelists function and thrive off of aim duels in valorant TenZ still isn’t on S1mple’s level due to his straight up talent and ability, but we’ll see in the future.

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coloR_
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Yeah and comparing them both is so difficult because cs has a very slow playstyle as compared to valorant. But in my opinion S1mple still is the better player because it's 2022 and I still feel like he is in his prime, I have never seen someone so dominant for so many yrs.

#41
Sebsbg
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Nah s1mple did it against an established esport, where top teams dispute the title of the best teams in the world, give it time to the scene to evolve, Tenz is like Get_Right where he dominated in the early years.

#92
n0namer123
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yeah I'd say get_right would be a better comparison, if tenz still dominated in the scene in a year or two

#110
Insyne
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Fuck no S1mple is quite possibly the greatest player in all of esports EVER or atleast in th debate, tenz is in more of a Get_Right/ Coldzera place at the moment

#114
Raphael151
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I'll tell you some facts about s1mple, and let you judge s1mple vs TenZ yourself.

Facts about s1mple:

1) Highest Rated Player in all of Tier-1 CSGO history.
2) Highest Rated Player in "Big Events" in all of CSGO history.
3) Highest Rated Player in "LAN Events", in all of CSGO History.
4) Highest Rating ever in a Major, in all of CSGO history.
5) 2nd Highest Rated Player across "Majors", in all of CSGO history.
6) 4 times Top1/Top2 player in the world, IN A ROW, while playing against a fully established and most competitive CSGO scene.
7) 18 MVP awards.
8) 15 Biggest (most prestigious) Trophies.
9) 1 Major + 1 Major MVP
10) 1 Grand Slam
11) 2 times Esports PC Player of the year award (2018 and 2021)
12) 1 time Esports Player of the year (2021)
13) Legendary CSGo Graffiti (immortalized in the game itself).

Source - HLTV
s1mple is the ONLY player in CSGO history, who has achieved literally everything that can possibly be achieved in CSGO. My Conclusion - GOAT OF CSGO

Now, you compare that to TenZ. And let me know what you think xD :)

#127
Blinded
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

#128
notablename
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well s1mple is in his prime right now and is dominating cs. He won 3 events back to back including the first major since covid started.

#3
SETSUZA
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lmao

#5
helohelo
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Well can TenZ still be this insane aimer in 5+ years who knows

#6
CrimsonPride
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S1mple is by far the GREATEST fps player to ever live. TenZ is the best player in the world in valorant right now but he is nowhere near what s1mple is in CSGO. it's not just skills , mechanics even the desire to win to be the best in the world , to always work to improve yourself s1mple is ahead of tenZ in every way. but if tenZ keeps winning like this for like 5/6 year then he'll be like s1mple i guess. unless people like s1mple , zywoo , niko and other t1 cs pro comes in valorant then i doubt tenZ can stay as #1 as he is right now. he'll still be easily top 5 or 10 tho

#9
DDot
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Definitely agree if some of these tier 1 EU CS players move to val and learn the agents, I don't think TenZ would be number 1.

#108
IznoGOUD
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He is not the greatest he is just the best in current years, the only player who we can give the title of best cs player of all time is f0rest, f0rest in his prime is like s1mple before s1mple became s1mple like Zet was f0rest before f0rest became f0rest. idk why younger generation don't know just how insane f0rest was in 1.6 people say they weren't as skilled back then compare to now are you kidding, f0rest doesn't even put much time in as others lol not even half of it, and still so consistent, if he wanted to play in a top tier team he would, as for TenZ, TenZ is nowhere near their level.

#113
loganipad
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you clearly dont watch cs

LMAO

#7
DDot
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Even though I believe TenZ is the best Val player ATM by quite a margin I don't think there's any player I've seen do the things s1mple has done on such a consistent basis but TenZ is still young and could definitely reach that level.

#117
cheeeeze
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he isnt the best at val though

#10
Sunot
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I feel like he will be like Shox in Valorant. When he's motivated he destroys everyone but when he isn't feeling it just drops the ball. Same with fnx

#11
SETSUZA
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Prime shox on verygames and early Titan was beautiful to watch. He would be in a 1v3, 1v4 and I would feel bad for the enemy team that he was the last one alive because he would just win every time. An actual monster

#12
Supr3meGucci
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damn the motivated shox meme made it to vlr

#13
muuuzera
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the answer is very s1mple

#15
MilanTheMyth
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S1mple

#16
Easy_for_MWZERA
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s1mple could never be as good as TenZ in val, cause vanguard would catch him pretty fast.

#19
sp0rtsman
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funny

#21
Easy_for_MWZERA
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Not a joke though. lol

#25
Neon74
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how come all of the brazilians thinks s1mple is a cheater but nobody else does? honestly hilarious

#37
SETSUZA
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they do have a history of calling players that shit on them cheaters

like your flair for example

#40
Neon74
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true, i still remember brazil sent death threats to the Chaos trio LOL

#58
Riizwan19xx
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Hiko had to hire bodyguards lol. Br fans xD

#62
Easy_for_MWZERA
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We actually destroyed s1mple lots of times between 2015 and 2017. And people are generalizing, I don't call anyone else cheater, only s1mple. You guys are just too naive, banned twice for hacking, has the stats no other player in history had, never has a bad game.

#101
kapteN
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never has a bad game? Except every time he made it to a major final and choked his ass off LOL

#103
Easy_for_MWZERA
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Choked? Show me a match of him with less then 1.15 rating. Not winning doesn't mean he played bad. The guy only puts up 1.30+ rating that now you guys think 1.15 rating is a bad game, but for the majority of the players would be considered a great game.

#107
kapteN
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https://www.hltv.org/matches/2326427/natus-vincere-vs-astralis-faceit-major-2018 major final in london

big choke

#61
Noyn
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He is just kidding men, lol

#76
fisherman
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were brazilians just kidding about leaf and chaos?

#82
Easy_for_MWZERA
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Stop putting every brazilian in one single box as if everyone in the country thinks the same. We are 200 milion people, not everyone acused Chaos, not everyone acuses s1mple.

#83
fisherman
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LMAO tell me why no other country besides turkey has a reputation as shit as yours then

#87
Easy_for_MWZERA
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Because you are elitists 1st world country that will always diminish people from underdeveloped countries.

#89
fisherman
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5/8

#84
Dr_DoofenshmirtZ
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he never said 'every brazilian' , he meant brazilians watching csgo in general

#122
nematoma
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e

#74
Easy_for_MWZERA
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So Brazil is like 1 person that everyone thinks the same and acts the same and the rest of the world is like another person who thinks different than Brazil? Very good statement, makes a lot of sense.

#67
deadSQUAD
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so you're saying s1mple in val will be as good as someone who's using cheaters? it's just explaining that s1mple would be better than tenz in val

#73
Easy_for_MWZERA
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No, I'm actually saying that he hacks and Vanguard would catch him, since CS anti-cheats are trash.

#81
deadSQUAD
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s1mple hacking is that new religion in brazil?

#88
Easy_for_MWZERA
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Who else did u see from Brazil saying what I'm saying?

#99
deadSQUAD
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no one, just from you. that's why i asked you whether it's kinda new beliefs or what

#100
Easy_for_MWZERA
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No, it's not. Nobody thinks that here. It's only me. He always had a toxic personality, was banned for hacking twice, has the best stats the game has ever seen for years, all of the other best players have fallen off some point in their carrer, shox, cold, get_right, oloffmeister, NEO. He never has bad games and his aim shakes suspiciously after shots.

#104
deadSQUAD
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just bcs someone so consistent on game doesnt mean he is cheating.

#106
Easy_for_MWZERA
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Ok. Tell me about another player that did something similar. Because in every single e-sport or acual sport if there's a player who is considered the best, there's always someone close enough to him to be compared. Messi, Ronaldo Pelé, TenZ, cNed, ScreaM, Asuna, Micheal Jordan, Lebron James, Kobe Bryant, Kareem Abdul Jabar, Roger Federer, Djokovic, Nadal, but CS there's no one near s1mple and the dude was already banned twice for cheating.

It's like being buffed and ripped af and destroying everybody in a sport, then failing the anti-doping exam twice, then getting back to the sport bigger than ever and more ripped than ever and destroy everyone even more and no one suspecting of anything. It's pure nayvety.

#17
TinglyPiano
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if TenZ can keep this up for a few years then yeah

#18
MEOWSKIBOYS
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s1mple is the god of cs or maybe even the fps genre for many years and still going, while valorant is still a new game so its hard to tell if tenz will dominate valorant for many years like s1mple did in cs. i dont mean winning all the events cause s1mple didnt, but statistically s1mple was the best or top 2 cs player every year.

#20
Ullyr
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s1mple atm, tenz have to stay at the top or towards the top for a while.

#22
ritdro2211
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Can't compare 2 different games tbh
but bcoz of longevity I would say simple

#23
DasiusWL
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i mean we saw it in CS lmao, same shit would happen in valorant. Can't wait for some tier1 cs pros to switch to gap NA hardcore again

#24
Ms
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Difference is if Simple played valorant it's very posdible he could be top 1. On the othee hand if Tenz played cs he'd be a tier 2 player.

#26
Neon74
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TenZ was worse than t2
Sentinels wouldn't even be able to crush ESEA MDL teams
They might pick up some wins, but definitely not be as dominant
It's a different game though

#27
Wwpcc
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Imagine comparing GOD S1mple with CS failure TenZ.

#28
Neon74
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comparing TenZ with s1mple is just disrespect to s1mple honestly
Same with comparing Sentinels to Astralis, disrespect to Astralis

#29
SkuIly
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You cant compare a CS player with a Val player. They are both different games and have different playstyles.

#30
Cloudyss
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tenz washed up cs player

#36
Golem
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and?

#31
Noyn
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Let's say if you multiply TenZ's skill ceiling and intelligence by 10x you would have S1mple's talent.

#32
Newb1eweaK
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no need for comparison, they both best in their own way. we didnt know what will happen if tenz have a head-to-head match on s1mple on CS Game .. or S1mple head-to-head match on Tenz in Valorant Game . stop Comparing Players :D just appreciate both of them :)

#59
mns
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Head to head s1mple will dominate Tenz in CS 100%, in Val Tenz will dominate.

#33
DELUSIONAL_MITCH_FAN
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I think this is VLR.gg not HLTV

#34
paperdark
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Tenz has top aiming and reaction talents, and is still young, so it depends on how Tenz progresses to develop his potential. But it's not good enough for now.

BTW Tenz’s CSGO career has no reference value, CSGO is just a practice game early in his career and he didnt try too hard, who cares about a young player’s previous noob stage (except for CSGO fans LUL)? People knows which game has a better future. Although he is young and can continue to progress, it is not worth to waste time of his important stage in CSGO. This theory applies to all young players move to VALORANT from CSGO.

BTW I think Cned have a greate advantage in aspect of career XD

#42
Ms
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So you get paid thousand of dollars and you don't take you job serious? You're so dumb dude.

#49
primum
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Saying Tenz didnt take cs seriously is just disrespectful as fuck to him, kid constantly grinded for hours a day perfecting his aim and playing fpl

#51
most_mens_guy
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+1

Fortunately or unfortunately he just failed in CS and that's the main reason why he was benched from C9 and then switch to Valorant as soon as the game was released. He had great aim but his decision-making ability was like really bad

#86
Wwpcc
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S1mple already proved himself in CS, and certainly would dominate in Valorant.

TenZ is already a failure in CS, and is yet to be seen as the GOAT of Valorant.

So,

S1mple: GOAT in CS, can be the GOAT of Valorant
TenZ: Failure in CS, can be the GOAT of Valorant

So, S1mple > TenZ.

#35
ranker11
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s1mple is better in orange and tenz is better in apple

#38
Valerence
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there are players like tenz or maybe even better than tenz in valorant, s1mple in cs on the other hand, bro has 1.35 rating in the year so far and it doesn’t look like hes stopping, so u tell me who is more dominant

#39
HackNaija
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s0mple wouldnt cut it in Valo.
Tenz would actually destroy that noob

#43
buldO
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Erm...

#44
pashafps
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when i open this thread i understand that maybe 80% of guys here have 0% knowledge - exp. probably switched from a game line minecraft or apex (which is not bad). s1mple is the most consistent mvp - hard carry >all in the top tier fps game who dominate everything. hes fast precise hes styling hes all. everybody knows that eu cs go is better than na cs go. go watch s1mple highlights cologne he destroyed like ranked. tenz is not even close that good in valorant how good s1mple is in cs. for me personally i think RIGHT NOW is NA Valorant better than EU but i think VS is strongest Team. This is a TEAM Game, individuals will not do much. Best example is Supermassive Blaze. Germany is playing best Football, why? In young years we get tought its a TEAM Game.

Remember my words, in this fresh new era will „Regions“ dominate. But i see huge potential for underdogs to make their success. PRX and Vivo Keyd worked so hard.
Lets stop the trashtalk and hate and spread love guys..

Valorant worst community in the world

#45
Pigguman
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i agree with the underdog part

#46
JokesOver
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I agree with valorant is a team game part

#63
ranker11
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Valorant worst community in the world

what will you do if you see LOL community kekw

#47
flu1d
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There's no comparison. Like we haven't seen simple in val pro play. While tenz was a tier 2 player in CS. Considering tenz and simple's current form, simple is by far the better player. He is the hard carry for so many years and still is the best player.

#48
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Is your question like "Is TenZ as successful and dominant in Valorant as s1mple in CSGO"? If it is, then I don't think so just because the game has only been out for a little over a year. S1mple has been dominant and at the top for like 5 years now. If Sentinels and TenZ stay the best for maybe 3 or more years then maybe the answer to this question wouldn't be so clear-cut. Give TenZ some time. The scariest part about him is he's already the best player in the world but is still young and can improve.

The Valorant scene would be different in three years though especially with more T1 pros switching over to Valorant, especially the NA ones (EliGE, NAF, Twistzz). Those three can make a big impact in the NA scene and might challenge TenZ and Asuna at the top of NA.

#50
most_mens_guy
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To be honest it's not even close. s1mple is one of the greatest fps players as for now.

Most likely if t1 orgs from CS with all the stuff will switch. It won't take more than 6-8 months to dominate the scene at least in EU region. It's much harder to be t1 team in CS than in Valorant right now. From what I know most of t1 players are playing like 8-12h a day so that's the reason why most of them never stream on twitch. The game became their job so all the free time they have they prefer to spend outside of the computer. Same with most of the e-sport disciplines with that much events and tournaments

Now or later the same will happen with Valorant

#111
LifeIsALie
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one of? No . He is the greatest

#52
hilo0829
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cant compare anyone to s1mple
he is GOD

#53
Excalibur5
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guys pls dont compare CS:GO to Valorant. It is an insult to CS:GO

Kids play Valorant
Legends play CS:GO

#55
MilanTheMyth
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washed play Valorant, gud ones play CS KKonaW

#64
ValoRISE
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Go support GAMBOT chokerss

#72
Deez
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when me and my friends play CS we either get hackers on our team or the other team. I guess they truly are legends.

#119
cheeeeze
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Kids who cant aim in cs play val

#54
Kraly
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s1mple best fps player ever, no one from valorant has competed in worlds more than twice now so absolutely not. Tenz is great but more comparable to a good rifler rather than a god tier player like s1mple or zywoo

#56
thanatos111
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The only person that can be compared to S1mple in terms of dominating a game is faker in LoL, not fucking tenz

#68
deadSQUAD
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totally agree

#70
thanatos111
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but tenz is expensive american player so would probably be better than s1mple at valorant!!!

#77
Ryzen_
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The hardest agree, Faker and S1mple are players who you hear about without even playing the games they dominate in because of dominant they are.

#57
ELZZZ
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s1mple > tenz. s1mple is the most consistent player in the world according to statistics

#60
Aman
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The fact that everyone is trying to compare s1mple to other players means he is a legend which everyone wants to be.

#65
BerZergg
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lol...imagine comparing the goat to tenz...hahahha

#66
deadSQUAD
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both are dominating on their own game, as a viewers from both game, easily i would say s1mple in csgo are better than tenz in valorant.

#69
Puget
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I hate s1mple but even I can tell that you can't even compare these two, tenz is nowhere close to him. Nobody in Valorant is

#75
Origin
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why'd you hate simple?

i dont ex TL player so yeah

#79
Puget
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he's such an unlikable personality

#71
DELUSIONAL_MITCH_FAN
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i dont think s1mple plays valorant pro but i think tenz does

#78
zzyawnzers
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s1mple ofc

T1 EU cs pros > T2 EU cs > NA valorant > EU valorant

tenz was utter fail during his time at C9, you can't really just outaim people in CSGO (there are always better aimers than you)

and his game sense is terrible

#80
lilcheese
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We cant compare in Valorant. Can only compare them in CS and Tenz stats were awful so thats kinda it.

#85
Na1my
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If we want to draw comparisons between CS and Valorant Tenz is probably the Get_Right of Valorant. GTR played in the best team in the world back then and was the best player, but it was the early days of CS:GO, we did not know what is possible yet. And even still, there are players like cNed that could be better, if they had the right pieces around them.

S1mple on the other hand always played with really disfunctional teams that were really flawed, but still managed to perform like nobody else ever had. Even his current NaVi team still has a mediocre IGL for my money, even though they are Nr.1 in the world.

Having a bad team drags your potential down. People think that you can frag out a lot more, but in a bad team you will have to eco a lot more, will be forced in really disadvantages situations like retakes, and you get less support.

Here a analogy for you: Imagine TenZ and S1mple are NBA players.
While Tenz has players that are good at passing and needs to do his shots from there, s1mple literally has to dribble around 5 players that stand in his way and needs to make his shot.
S1mple probably is the single best FPS player of all time for my money.

#93
thanatos111
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Imo the only person than can ever be compared to S1mple in terms of dominating a game is Faker

#94
Na1my
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Idk did have have a bad team and still managed to win something?

#95
thanatos111
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No faker was just the best itw

#90
n0namer123
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S1mple obviously, csgo is much more developed, even tenz would probably admit this comparison is ridiculous

#96
Brayl28
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A simple answer, S1mple 100%

#97
blinkedr159
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The level in valorant is not even close to what we saw in top CSGO. When we had device, coldzera, s1mple, guardian, kennys, shox, fallen, olof... Its like people that were mediocre in CSGO are superstars in Valorant. Dapr is a great example of this... He wasnt even in the discussion of being a tier 1 player and in valorant he is a major winner...

I think it is only unfair to compare them, s1mple has proven himself in a tougher esports that have been existing for over 20 years already, tenz played a game that has an esports scene since this year.

In sum, s1mple > most of csgo top players > tenz

#112
LifeIsALie
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HAVE*

#98
deadSQUAD
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.

#102
MilanTheMyth
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S1mple and it isn't even close YET

#105
cwwecwcqe
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s1mple much better but it can change

#109
Noyn
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Kkkkkkkkkkk, this is a joke, right?

#115
Carthage_Er_Pola
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s1mple stuck with Navi and worked hard for years to come to this place.
Tenz left C9 after a few months when they were underperforming and then got signed by one of the best teams in the world

#116
positive_dude
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valorant had 2 international tournaments, the game needs years before we can talk about actual dominance, we can say nip was dominant in 2013, but the game was less competitve at the time, i think its the same for valorant, better players will appear and the game will get more competitive.

#118
hacislayer
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I was legit thinking about how good valorant community actually is compare to CS, then I saw this post

#121
kuress
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tenz comparing to s1mple. yall guys are delusional. sentinels only good at 1st yr of valorant. most of them are trash, dapr zombs shahzam, sick and tenz are good but never the best.

#123
looklook
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lol imagine comparing tenz to s1mple

tenz just lost sentinels two biggest tourneys with his split gameplay
s1mple doesnt lose navi any maps

#124
kylocat
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why are people still putting tenz in the same category as simple, tenz always throw when the team needed him the most

#125
Dest1ny
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This thread aged great

#126
KimSaeBeokkk
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