TenZ and asuna

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CrimsonPrid3

After TenZ destroys asuna again today for the 100t h time plz stop comparing that overrated player to tenZ. Asuna gets diffed by tenZ (everytime) and got diffed by yay will get diffed by wardell (even tho tsm dogshit and will get 13-0ed or something)

And stop looking down on ethan. He's probably byfar the most talented player in 100t and one of the best player in NA. Give him duelist role with supports like nitro hiko and steel and people will see how much better he is compared to asuna. I'm not saying asuna is bad by any means. I've been watching him since his immortal days since he was one of the first NA players who played reyna. But holy fuck after joining 100t asuna fans are so fking annoying . Overrating him and not giving credit to other great and better players.

Tldr don't even put asuna on the same level as TenZ and Ethan > asuna

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sentinels didnt even play 100t today

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Can't read the first word of the post? I said after. Also sry for any misunderstanding. They play today according to my irl time

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what a disgrace for VS flair user, sadge

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Are you fked in the head bro? The fk u on about?

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nice bait u moron

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Bruh what bait are you talking about?

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i agree asuna is good but its fucking annoying

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and btw, nobody's looking down on ethan except fans like you. cs players know he's one of the best out there

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"Fans like me" the fck are you talking about? I just said ethan is better then asuna and the best player on 100t I've been following cs for a long time now and i know ethan. And if no one is looking down on ethan then why do i see people say asuna has trash supports. Asuna god etc and no one talks about ethan? Like asuna has by far the some of best support players in Val rn

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Well, having support players is one thing, but having the actual support in-game is another. 100T have had issues in the past with making sure Asuna's entries are adequately supported with proper spacing, utility, etc. Having Ethan with him has really helped both of them shine brighter and the team has most recently benefitted from that success by making it to Berlin. I can't wait till they figure out more and eventually (hopefully) even rival sentinels for the all-around best team in the world.

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Asuna is better than Ethan but he is one of the best flex players in NA

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This is simply not true, and I know my flair makes me less credible. But prior to yesterday, the last two times 100T played SEN Asuna had the highest ACS for 100T, and in one of the matches, he had a higher ACS than Tenz, with the other being like 30-40 difference. To say Asuna gets diffed by Tenz and SEN as a whole is just not true. In fact, he is one of the few NA duelists that doesn't get diffed by SEN/Tenz. Am I saying he is better? No. But he is not getting diffed lmao.

Also, I agree that Ethan is very very underrated, he was a top 20 CS player on HLTV before switching. Idk if he is an entry tho. Just my opinion on that.

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TenZ has more ping then asuna but tenZ still diffed asuna maximum time. But saying ping high is kinda like a excuse so ok 1 time asuna got better acs than tenZ fine but they had equal k on each other.and every other time tenZ diffed asuna. Even yay diffed asuna. Also you have to understand that 100ts team has only 1 duelist. It's asunas job to frag and his whole team supports him. Sen doesn't even run a fking flash to support tenZ . Then just roll everyone anyway.and like i said if ethan plays duelist for 100t i think he'll perform better then asuna. People really should stop thinking 100t is just asuna show. It never was asuna show

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Surely this is bait. Yay diffed Asuna? This is again statistically not true. But even disregarding stats if you watched the game you could definitely tell there was no diff in either direction. Also, you citing the 1 duelist comp showcases the difference between Tenz and Asuna. Asuna is the sole entry for the team, if he doesn't get entries or create space for 100T the rounds are more likely than not finished. In fact, they were so reliant on him (around stage 1 stage 2) that they didn't even run execs or setups to be able to trade him. Steel mentioned this on his streams back during this time. Conversely, SEN running 2 duelists allows for double entry setups where you can play off of your other entry fragger. Tenz does not have nearly the same importance level as Asuna to 100T because SEN constantly has support around Tenz via Sick, or Shaz to create openings. Just because they don't run skye does not mean there is no support lol.

Lastly, people who claim 100T is simply just the "Asuna show" either don't watch the games or do not fully grasp the way 100T plays. 100T play in a way that enables Asuna's rifling in a way that TSM enables Wardell's op. The difference being Asuna on a rifle is much less of a crutch for 100T than Wardell on the op. The goal is to set Asuna up for picks as he is one of the best riflers in the world but it is not simply him just running around wide swinging and repeeking everything. There is way more structure than that and if you can't see that then I'm sorry but idk what else to tell you

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What do you mean statistically not true? Last match yay has more acs adr kd fb/fd ration as well as kill diff on asuna. Yay clearly diffed asuna by stats. Also you said " you can play of other player" that means tenZ isn't the only one whos job is fragging. Sen has 2 fraggers. That already a reason for tenZ to have lower acs compared to 1 duelist teams where your whole team supports your entry to get kills and feeds you all the kills
And as far as i remember 80% of the time tenZ is the one who does the entry and sick plays of tenZ specially when tenZ picks jett. And yes skye is really important lmfao. TenZ literally never had an acs under 300 when he played for c9 except just before he quit. That's cause the team played around tenZ. Just like how 100t does. But in sen you have 2 fraggers as well as every other player just as important and they do more team play then individual play that's why their score is always so close to each other. But tenz still outperfroms everyone. And like i said asuna can't diff tenZ or yay and that's going through by stats

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What a battle boi

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Who are u kidding. Asuna is getting diffed by TenZ ever since he joined Sen

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TENZ shit on asuna on 70 ping... Tenz is GOAT

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Asuna is shit

Brazil has way more talented players than him, I guarantee you

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I mean heat is firing up and ntk , mwzera both are really talented player. Scay too. But can't say they are better than asuna until they play each other

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But br lost pretty badly in last masters so they have to prove themselves

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sacy came talking shit about tenz saying "we have shut down many tenz in brazil". and then flopped in iceland hard. not even top 3 region so dont come here talking that shit, prove in the next LAN, then talk all that shit.

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Sacy said after that na was better than brazil in terms of mechanics.

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Saadhak told in the press conference of Iceland that they play really aggressive and the teams in Iceland looked very passive. In the end we could not see even one aggressive round for them. Their aggression saw them losing Gtn first, then others followed. To be honest only Sacy played well and others were blehh

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He said about the individual game, not the team, the game is 5v5, whoever has the best tactic wins

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if the region has "many tenz" and is still failing then how bad must your tactics be?

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okay then individually gtn and frz was bottom fragging every game in iceland, the main 2 duelists from brazil flopped too, so whats up with that then?

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0/8

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BRA71L OMEGALUL

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this take is shit

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asuna needs gf buff

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he’s got me

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Looks like your hole isn't good enough. That's why he's losing. Needs a better gf

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asunasBWCinmymouth

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his 4.7 inch in diameter penis is so fucking massive it stretches my hole out at least half a centimeter a day. ig it’s loosing its tightness and not affecting him with maximum pleasure anymore. i’d have surgery to shrink the hole though, anything for asuna

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what the fuck dude

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wtf did I just read

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wtf
i need holy water to clean my eye

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asunasBWCinmymouth

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definitely won’t be as clean as asuna’s asshole after i’m done using my tongue fo the day 💯

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calm yo tiddies down

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you are fucked in the brain

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ig it’s karma bc i be fucking the brains out of asuna and shit

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im going to need you to head to fucking church

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asunasBWCinmymouth

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a) ratio
b) my head needs to head into asuna’s bulging asshole
c) idk man posting the word “fucking” isn’t a good representation of the life jesus wants you to live i think you need to go to church

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1stly, neither asuna nor yay can perform against sentinels or tenz. we saw that both yay and asuna flopped against sentinels. 2ndly people compare him cause asuna reyna and raze is better than tenz raze and reyna. reyna is debatable but not raze. also dont come here asking ethan to be put on duelist, we dont control none of that shit. maybe ethan is the best pplayer in the world in jett who knows, but none of control his agent and 100ts comps so chill out with that bullshit.

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Asuna reyna is nowhere near tenZ reyna as tenZ performs best on his reyna. And you can see people changing agents and going duelist and performing way better then before. Exp automatic from t1 , Shao from fpx , zyppan from fpx , scay vikings . So it's pretty easy to see that ethan will most probably do better then now if he plays an agent who's role is to frag and has support from some of the best support players in val

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Asuna reyna is nowhere near tenZ reyna as tenZ performs best on his reyna

i disagree, asuna's best agent is reyna and tenz best agent is jett. we see this in both icebox and breeze where asuna plays reyna which are easily his best two maps. id say who is a better reyna is up for debate, but "Asuna reyna is nowhere near tenZ reyna" is not true, they are very close and whos on top depends on whos feeling it that day on reyna. the gap is not as large as you make it out to be.

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If you count last 60 days then both have almost 300acs and the same adr but all time so record tenZ destroys asuna reyna. Stats wise that is. And literally everyone says tenZs best agent is reyna

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yeah its true, asuna's reyna is insane but tenz is just better with reyna statistically and ifu watch the games you will see the difference in playstyle that makes tenz slightly better than asuna, sure asua got 48 kills but saying he is the best reyna just coz he popped off one game doesnt mean shit

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It's like saying nature is the greatest viper cause he dropped 49k on split against tsm. Also wardell dropped 46 that game too

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Nature played Kay/0 not Viper

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mybad lol. but it was nature. so i guess nature is the greatest kay/o in the world then

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lol

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im saying they are comparable. this retard above is saying "Asuna reyna is nowhere near tenZ reyna". i think asuna is better, you might think tenz is better with reyna. but the gap is not as large as crimson is saying, which has been my point fromt he beginning. see how i said " reyna is debatable" even in the first comment?

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stats dont mean shit bro. look at the game, they are both insane with reyna. the space they create and the conditioning they force on their enemies on reyna is comparable to what babybay did on masters1 with his jett. but youre saying tenz is better with reyna which is not a fact but an opinion, tenz is not irrefutably better than asuna with reyna.

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same thing, if you look at stats tenz has better acs and stuff but leave that all aside, tenz doesnt have a team who sets him up for plays but he still frags out due to his sheer aim whereas 100t set asuna up for those crazy plays most of the time and asuna gets frags due to that, you will understand if u watched the matches very closely or just look at boasters analysis of 100t vs sen.. tenz is just slightly better at asuna at reyna its just facts (also you said stats dont mean shit, so i guess
tenZ is the worst player in the game then and 100t steel is the best)

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stopped reading at "tenz doesnt have a team who sets him up for plays". maybe watch any game first then come on this forum you clearly have no idea what youre talking about.

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lmfao you are so fkin delusional, you do know that sen have a 2 duelist comp instead of one right? they dont set him up for fkin plays, shahz made that clear in so many interviews he said that tenz just does things on his own lmfao you are so fking retarded like hollllyyyy, asuna is the only duelist in 100t comp (there are exceptions) so they can completely set asuna up since he is the only suelist whereas in sen tenz is a part of two duelist and they wont set him up for plays, it has been made clear by shahz so many fkin times that shahz rarely gives tenz permission to go aggressive and make those twitch clip plays, mean while 100t depend on asuna to get entry frags, if asuna struggles to get a pick its a wrap for 100t but sen have either shahzam or sick on duelist

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lmao "shahz made that clear in so many interviews". watch a game then come and argue, stop watching interviews and twitch highlight reels cause they are edited as shit and never tell u the full story dumbass.

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"watch a game and then come argue" wait thats what im supposed to say, omfg you are so stupid.. i watch all regions except for sea and i can clearly see you are actually fkin retarded lmfao and you are the person who said "stats dont meant shit" thats the dumbest fkin shit ive heard like stats mean everything in a game like val, why do i even to explain this youa re so fkin dumb like it fking hurts

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people compare them because Asuna is arguably the 2nd best duelist in NA

anyone who says Asuna is > Tenz is just a casual, but most people recognize that he is at the LEAST top3 in NA.

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Ethan is great. But I think rating him above Asuna is just a bit silly. He play has definitely improved lately, especially since the buffs to Skye which basically turns her into 100T’s second duelist the was she is getting used.

Between Asuna and Ethan. I have Asuna comfortably out front. There are countless maps where Asuna is having to carry the 100T squad. Asuna rarely doesn’t show up, he is one of the most consistent players in NA. I think the buffs to Skye’s flash have helped Ethan’s game and he’s definitely been playing better lately. But even comparing their stats over the last 60 days, Asuna has played simply better IMO. If Asuna doesn’t show up, 100T’s lose. If Ethan doesn’t show up, the team still occasionally win.

Will be interesting how Asuna does on LAN.

Between him getting rated against TenZ. I think the comparison is fair. Asuna has improved greatly this year and would probably be considered by most to be the 2nd best player in NA and he is getting better. At least Top 3.

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Imagine thinking Wardell is in the same league as Asuna. Asuna is light years ahead of Wardell. Wardell without an OP is a Gold/Plat player.

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i wouldnt say gold/plat but wardells rifling is not on par with being the main duelist of tsm.

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"Wardell without an op is a gold/plat player" ok now i know you didn't see wardell play ever. Also when is wardell without a op? If you say that wardell with ar is a gold in front of asuna i agree. Asuna with rifle is way better then wardell. But asuna with op is a silver in front of wardell with op so chill. Asuna just got diffed by yay last match and wardell already diffed yay 2 times last week

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"diffed yay" brother valorant is not a 1v1 game if they kill each other it doesn't matter

facts are yay outperformed wardell by every metric, especially the one that matters most as a duelist (FK FD)

yay went 18-7 in fk fd, wardell 5-6. he completely outclassed him in terms of jett and duelist performance

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I actually have to agree with this , asuna is a good player but he has a horrible kid fanbase

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same with TenZ lol

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Agreed XD like i started supportin sen cuz of tenz but now i like all the sen members and if tenz leaves ( unlikely) i will still support sentinels , unless its ____ , i dont want to say the name

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Sentinels is fine.. it's just the fanbase (just like TSM) that makes me hate it lol
TenZ.. bunch of kids who praise him like he's Genghis Khan and flame you if you don't agree with them
zombs.. bunch of kids who spam #ZOMBSNATION all day
ShahZaM.. this guy straight up is just unlikeable, especially if you're someone like me who watched him in the CS days. I still see him as a toxic rat
SicK and dapr are fine
TSM fanbase is just flat out toxic

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i agree with them but shahzam one i dont cuz he definitely changed from his CS days , Im being as unbiased as possible , he did shady shit in CS but changed and is a much better person , same with steel , but both of them are better ppl rn and have a better career here than in CS

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True. Shahzam may be arrogant or a rat from his CS days, but you have to agree that he has mended himself after playing Valorant. He may be a tad bit annoying but he also agrees that if Sentinels do not dominate every event, he is ready to accept that other teams are better than him. Everybody has done shady things in the past but its better to accept the present.

Tenz's fanboys are delusional and annoying, plaguing every twitch chat possible. But the fact that Tenz is humble when he has one of the biggest Valorant fanbases is great. Sick, Dapr and Zombs are really cool guys and if you see their streams you can understand.

Tsm fanbase is a bit toxic and people tend to overrate them after 1 good performance but that was thanks to their early dominance. Imo, they have some really egoistic players but Subroza is really humble. Fanbase also sometimes reflect how the players are and what they tend to speak to the outside world.

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whenever SEN wins, all I see on twitter are TenZ fanboys spamming shitty copy pastes and the same "I believe in TenZ supremacy" meme, it gets so tiring especially when you are actually trying to talk to someone about valorant and then some rando comes in spamming "TenZ is better than Asuna cry about it" when everybody knows that already

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i dont understand why people call out shahz for telling the truth, ik he was toxic back in the day but i dont see anything wrong in shahz proving that other pros were match fixing in fact its better for shahz to do that instead of knowing it and being quiet about it

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Yeah but after that, he attempted to matchfix with Hiko and n0thing
I'm pretty sure there's a clip about it on Youtube
So he was a huge hypocrite

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oh i didnt know that

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atleast our region has good players :l

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But But.... can we all agree that babybay is by far bottom 5 duelist in NA.

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Babybay very overrated

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asuna just needs gf buff, chill guys.
btw...ethan can't be on jett. he is a good aimer but he can't entry that much. back in cs tarik used to entry not ethan. and his playstyle is not suited on duelist...imo only :)) peace to all!

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if anything I can only see ethan on raze or reyna if 100t ever run two duelist comps

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gf=nerf
Bf=buff

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same will happen when tenZ play against cNed, people will realize how tenZ is overrated .

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we will talk about it ~~when~~ if it happens. no need to pre-emptively huff on the hopium rn.

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I would rather say that it could be the opposite as well. Don't end up making comparisons now, we shall see in Berlin when they actually compete.

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but Asuna doesn't only frag in eco rounds like tenz(mostly).i am not sure now because I don't watch sentinels as they always win

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i like how you say Tenz only frag in eco round then proceed to say you dont watch Sentinels

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maybe u missed now

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well put TenZ on phoenix and lets see the real deal. You are comparing a single duelist like Asuna to TenZ. I agree that TenZ diffs him so much but we have to realise that SEN has dounle duelist which means either SicK or Shaz will entry with him but Asuna literally goes solo into a site and gets kills.

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304 ACS in 12 reyna games. Yeah Asuna is overrated

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I think these comparisons are kind of pointless, TenZ and Asuna are obviously the top 2 duelists in NA, and most likely its just about whose better on the day. TenZ is more consistent and also plays on a lot higher ping so maybe he'll be better than Asuna on LAN, but Asuna hits much higher peaks than TenZ. But they are definitely close in skill so who cares

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This is not supposed to even be an argument.

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Asuna Reyna>Tenz Reyna
This is a fact if you think otherwise you are a tenz dickrider

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*icebox reyna

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1st tenz femboy found

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Last time 100t and Sen played a match and tenz was on Reyna he went 14-2

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Last time 100t played against envy ,we got to know yay was a jett one trick

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And that 1 trick diffed asunas ass hard

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How is 85/77 and 89/81 diffing hard retarted dumbfuck ?