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India getting VCT slot is risky

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#1
bobby_void

does anyone not remember word.exe? lmao what if a team from india does that again, but its unlikely bc riot vanguard anti cheat is way better than csgo

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burnt
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you cant hold that against an entire region forever

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bobby_void
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burnt [#2]

you cant hold that against an entire region forever

Yeah ik, just saying to be cautious

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k1ng1namo
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It's on them if they do that dumb shit again

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Netero
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yeah a whole region should be banned from competition because of 1 guy lol. i guess ban all of NA because of Babybay?

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bobby_void
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Netero [#5]

yeah a whole region should be banned from competition because of 1 guy lol. i guess ban all of NA because of Babybay?

never said that lmao

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xaboff
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tbf they only have a spot in APAC LCQ where tey have to beat the second best teams from KR, Japan and SEA so I don't really see them making masters anyway

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ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8
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I'm laughing to myself thinking about the scene where the production guy pulls him away from the PC and he's struggling in his arms..

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bobby_void
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ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8 [#8]

I'm laughing to myself thinking about the scene where the production guy pulls him away from the PC and he's struggling in his arms..

LMAO

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Sova_Viper_Breach_Cypher
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bobby_void [#3]

Yeah ik, just saying to be cautious

good point. the indian players have a history of cheating!

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DELUSIONAL_NUKKYE_FAN
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bobby_void [#6]

never said that lmao

It's what you implied

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Asphyxia
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I don't think them getting a VCT slot would be that risky. I think there are some really strong players in India who could bring some amazing takes on the game to LAN. If they cheat. Then that person who cheated will be banned, simple as that. If multiple people cheat, just ban them. There's no reason to blame a whole region if certain people are cheating. Like imagine if all of NA was denied their VCT spot if 3 upcoming teams apparently all cheated their way up to masters but then were found out. Also I think Riot Games are probably already working on creating a VCT spot for India because they care about countries and regions who care about their game. Such as turkey and japan. Japan is surprisingly invested in this game which is strange to say the least and Riot is rewarding them with 2 spots in masters berlin. It's sad that turkey don't have a way to qualify in their own region and have to go against the EMEA superhouses but they do care about the scene considering how much resources they put into it. Turkey is a striving scene with probably some of the strongest fanbases(might be even stronger than brazil lmao). But yea I think riot will give India a VCT spot. The question is when?

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Asphyxia [#12]

I don't think them getting a VCT slot would be that risky. I think there are some really strong players in India who could bring some amazing takes on the game to LAN. If they cheat. Then that person who cheated will be banned, simple as that. If multiple people cheat, just ban them. There's no reason to blame a whole region if certain people are cheating. Like imagine if all of NA was denied their VCT spot if 3 upcoming teams apparently all cheated their way up to masters but then were found out. Also I think Riot Games are probably already working on creating a VCT spot for India because they care about countries and regions who care about their game. Such as turkey and japan. Japan is surprisingly invested in this game which is strange to say the least and Riot is rewarding them with 2 spots in masters berlin. It's sad that turkey don't have a way to qualify in their own region and have to go against the EMEA superhouses but they do care about the scene considering how much resources they put into it. Turkey is a striving scene with probably some of the strongest fanbases(might be even stronger than brazil lmao). But yea I think riot will give India a VCT spot. The question is when?

india is a weak region but yea they cna become stronger

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bobby_void
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Netero [#13]

why should we be cautious of indian teams because of the action of 1 player from CS?

just in case

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CELLOO
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Asphyxia [#12]

I don't think them getting a VCT slot would be that risky. I think there are some really strong players in India who could bring some amazing takes on the game to LAN. If they cheat. Then that person who cheated will be banned, simple as that. If multiple people cheat, just ban them. There's no reason to blame a whole region if certain people are cheating. Like imagine if all of NA was denied their VCT spot if 3 upcoming teams apparently all cheated their way up to masters but then were found out. Also I think Riot Games are probably already working on creating a VCT spot for India because they care about countries and regions who care about their game. Such as turkey and japan. Japan is surprisingly invested in this game which is strange to say the least and Riot is rewarding them with 2 spots in masters berlin. It's sad that turkey don't have a way to qualify in their own region and have to go against the EMEA superhouses but they do care about the scene considering how much resources they put into it. Turkey is a striving scene with probably some of the strongest fanbases(might be even stronger than brazil lmao). But yea I think riot will give India a VCT spot. The question is when?

Turkey and CIS definitely need their own spot imo.

#17
SharubuNguvu
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this guy really made a thread to hate on a region because a player in a country of 1 billion people cheated in CS 5 years ago. LUL

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HackNaija
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bobby_void [#15]

just in case

so should we be cautious of NA because of Babybay???

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Asphyxia
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CELLOO [#16]

Turkey and CIS definitely need their own spot imo.

Yea :(

#20
Vortexy
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Just because there was one iconic case of cheating from India doesn't mean you hold it out against that region as a whole. It's like saying someone in your city is a mass murderer so everyone in that city including you is automatically considered a potential murderer.

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that won't happen again because they saw what happened to forsaken. but many players from that optic india squad are now competing in valorant, such as antidote and marzil. haivaan is a popular youtube streamer (averages 1k viewers)

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Cheating isn't the issue, its moreso the competitive level.

Japan was already considered far behind other regions (no offense), so how will India compare? Not only is there a lack of strong history in FPS but there is also a lack of experience in Valorant currently.

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Zaynio [#22]

Cheating isn't the issue, its moreso the competitive level.

Japan was already considered far behind other regions (no offense), so how will India compare? Not only is there a lack of strong history in FPS but there is also a lack of experience in Valorant currently.

There are over 1 billion people in India I think it is fair to give them a shot. Even if they don't have the same amount of experience the scene definitely will develop if given time.

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Zaynio
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bagaboo [#23]

There are over 1 billion people in India I think it is fair to give them a shot. Even if they don't have the same amount of experience the scene definitely will develop if given time.

I'm not saying don't give them a shot. But giving them a Last Chance Qualifier for Champions tour without developing the region first seems irresponsible.

Invest in the region for about a year like NA/EU/LATM/Asia/SA/JPN before considering their spots in a global light.

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PG_newt
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bobby_void [#3]

Yeah ik, just saying to be cautious

wut bru,
it was one dude, not the whole region lmao

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Asphyxia
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Zaynio [#24]

I'm not saying don't give them a shot. But giving them a Last Chance Qualifier for Champions tour without developing the region first seems irresponsible.

Invest in the region for about a year like NA/EU/LATM/Asia/SA/JPN before considering their spots in a global light.

They're doing the same thing with middle east. I don't think it's the best idea but hopefully they integrate them into the normal VCT next year but I think they just couldn't add India and Middle east in the middle of the year because then it would ruin the current system because it's a point system so they'd have to do something special for India. I hope that this is just a procedure because they were late and couldn't integrate them early enough. I think India can make it through the LCQ if they persevere though. Hopefully riot makes the right choice next year.

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Zaynio
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Asphyxia [#26]

They're doing the same thing with middle east. I don't think it's the best idea but hopefully they integrate them into the normal VCT next year but I think they just couldn't add India and Middle east in the middle of the year because then it would ruin the current system because it's a point system so they'd have to do something special for India. I hope that this is just a procedure because they were late and couldn't integrate them early enough. I think India can make it through the LCQ if they persevere though. Hopefully riot makes the right choice next year.

Yeah, I definitely agree with your points.

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Sova_Viper_Breach_Cypher [#10]

good point. the indian players have a history of cheating!

Indian (Player) have cheated. Not all are scapegoats.

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bobby_void [#14]

india is a weak region but yea they cna become stronger

It isn't weak bro.. Earlier in the start of the year only 3 big teams. By now there are atleast 15 fully paid orgs for valorant.

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Zaynio [#22]

Cheating isn't the issue, its moreso the competitive level.

Japan was already considered far behind other regions (no offense), so how will India compare? Not only is there a lack of strong history in FPS but there is also a lack of experience in Valorant currently.

The slot which is given is not only for India but with 6 other countries like Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Nepal,etc... So it is fair, and there is no need to underestimate the skill gap without even watching games..Lmao

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The word.exe situation is sad but they need another esport than PUBG, that region is dying of a new esport. Besides, Valorant is really popular over there

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Asphyxia [#12]

I don't think them getting a VCT slot would be that risky. I think there are some really strong players in India who could bring some amazing takes on the game to LAN. If they cheat. Then that person who cheated will be banned, simple as that. If multiple people cheat, just ban them. There's no reason to blame a whole region if certain people are cheating. Like imagine if all of NA was denied their VCT spot if 3 upcoming teams apparently all cheated their way up to masters but then were found out. Also I think Riot Games are probably already working on creating a VCT spot for India because they care about countries and regions who care about their game. Such as turkey and japan. Japan is surprisingly invested in this game which is strange to say the least and Riot is rewarding them with 2 spots in masters berlin. It's sad that turkey don't have a way to qualify in their own region and have to go against the EMEA superhouses but they do care about the scene considering how much resources they put into it. Turkey is a striving scene with probably some of the strongest fanbases(might be even stronger than brazil lmao). But yea I think riot will give India a VCT spot. The question is when?

They probably don't wanna invest in India. They were looking for organizer and found nodwin gaming but on the cost that they have to bear all expenses from prize pool to even team expenditure if they qualify for lan. I don't know if it is same in all regions. Anyway they introduced a VCC for all south asia Conbined

#33
ranker11
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Can we talk about how this guy got banned in the middle of ESEA
https://youtu.be/Cq5Z53q_Se8

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FireII [#21]

that won't happen again because they saw what happened to forsaken. but many players from that optic india squad are now competing in valorant, such as antidote and marzil. haivaan is a popular youtube streamer (averages 1k viewers)

even forsaken has changed his name to SK rossi and doing really good in valorant

#35
WhereTheFkAmI
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This take is so stupid
What about the matchfixers in the MDL league (CSGO)
they are playing this game and there is a possibility that they throw matches on purpose again
Come up with something better

#36
rimuru
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gauravt98 [#34]

even forsaken has changed his name to SK rossi and doing really good in valorant

/

#37
PotatoCh1ps
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rimuru [#36]

/

You should know that this is a meme. It always have been there in valorant indian community.

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gautam2909 [#29]

It isn't weak bro.. Earlier in the start of the year only 3 big teams. By now there are atleast 15 fully paid orgs for valorant.

I was watching skyesports league and i noticed that there are female layers in every team???? Why?

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Supr3meGucci [#38]

I was watching skyesports league and i noticed that there are female layers in every team???? Why?

What do you mean by female layers?

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WhereTheFkAmI [#35]

This take is so stupid
What about the matchfixers in the MDL league (CSGO)
they are playing this game and there is a possibility that they throw matches on purpose again
Come up with something better

Riot were conducting an investiagtion into that but idk what came of it.

#41
Supr3meGucci
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PotatoCh1ps [#39]

What do you mean by female layers?

Every team has at least one female player.

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GreenMariooo
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WhereTheFkAmI [#35]

This take is so stupid
What about the matchfixers in the MDL league (CSGO)
they are playing this game and there is a possibility that they throw matches on purpose again
Come up with something better

'take' lmao

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PotatoCh1ps
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Supr3meGucci [#41]

Every team has at least one female player.

I can't see any in GE or TM

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irony0507
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Supr3meGucci [#38]

I was watching skyesports league and i noticed that there are female layers in every team???? Why?

that tourney is shit for more viewership they made 1 influencer mandatory for each team watch tec gauntlet there only proffesional teams will play

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gautam2909 [#30]

The slot which is given is not only for India but with 6 other countries like Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Nepal,etc... So it is fair, and there is no need to underestimate the skill gap without even watching games..Lmao

Thats not the point I was making. Not one person said to not give them a chance. However, the region should be invested in before they have a spot for champions. As far as I'm aware, South Asias teams are particularly weak at the moment and far behind the rest of the world. They need to develop and invest into that region before giving a VCT spot.

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Everyone can cheat and ofc riot should be ready for this if they want to be a first brand in fps .. btw your "indian cheat concern" is too cringe

#47
Hybrid007
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If something like that happens again its on them, but tbh after that incident I think no player ever again from their region would do anything like that! The chance given to them is fair :)

#48
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PotatoCh1ps [#43]

I can't see any in GE or TM

he's talking about female influencer players I guess

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PotatoCh1ps
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Xhades situation in Valorant made it even worse

#50
Kilobyte
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PotatoCh1ps [#49]

Xhades situation in Valorant made it even worse

I mean I guess the fact that he was detected and banned early on helped a lot , what if he had gone to a large stage and then was caught.

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kungfupanda
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xaboff [#7]

tbf they only have a spot in APAC LCQ where tey have to beat the second best teams from KR, Japan and SEA so I don't really see them making masters anyway

we'll see

#52
Supr3meGucciAlt
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irony0507 [#44]

that tourney is shit for more viewership they made 1 influencer mandatory for each team watch tec gauntlet there only proffesional teams will play

Thanks for explaining.

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sarahjames
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xaboff [#7]

tbf they only have a spot in APAC LCQ where tey have to beat the second best teams from KR, Japan and SEA so I don't really see them making masters anyway

plus one

#54
hellaeleganceyeah
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lol remember when steel and a bunch of others threw matches? and how there are vods of current pros who threw but never got punished? 3 slots to na is dangerous. this is how you sound.

#55
wesickdrei
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Netero [#5]

yeah a whole region should be banned from competition because of 1 guy lol. i guess ban all of NA because of Babybay?

babybay had issues? can yall inform me about this.

#56
hilo0829
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more like a wasted spot

#57
ranker11
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wesickdrei [#55]

babybay had issues? can yall inform me about this.

VACed in ESEA for cheating

#58
Vegito
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bigpeensheen [#31]

The word.exe situation is sad but they need another esport than PUBG, that region is dying of a new esport. Besides, Valorant is really popular over there

It can srsly become a big esport in india if given the chance. People should realise that unless you play against teams from another region , it would be hard to have significant rise in gameplay especially for a country like india.

#59
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Kilobyte [#50]

I mean I guess the fact that he was detected and banned early on helped a lot , what if he had gone to a large stage and then was caught.

Thats true. Thank God riot has a good anticheat.

#60
Olofboost
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hilo0829 [#56]

more like a wasted spot

I can tell you what's really wasted - 4 Champions slots for Bronzil + Latam

India + South Asia only show up in last chance, there is no such thing as "wasted", they will have to compete with 2nd-3rd korean teams to qualify

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irony0507
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Zaynio [#22]

Cheating isn't the issue, its moreso the competitive level.

Japan was already considered far behind other regions (no offense), so how will India compare? Not only is there a lack of strong history in FPS but there is also a lack of experience in Valorant currently.

i think experience is not a issue we have players who are in pc gaming professionally for over 10 years

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BAKA
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bro you're talking like a 12 yrs old kid rn. I understand why you have such a blighted image of Indian esports and you are not really the one to blame. Even if Indian team do pretty well in the scene... they will still be seen as fishy players. These are just the consequences of the history written by that one MF- who single handedly destroyed the entire Indian esports community. It just can't be helped, we understand.
sighs
But, the fact that you brought this dead topic back to life clearly shows that you know nothing else about Indian esports except this incident. Indian esports is getting bigger every year with greater no. of orgs, fanbase, invitations and specially the crazy good players.
see, we're not asking you guys to treat Indian teams- Godlike but just show some warm welcome. we were waiting for an invitation like this for so long and finally got a chance. so if you are excited about new teams, we're excited that you guys are excited about new teams and lets get other people excited about new teams- together :)
gg

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You know the man power India holds right? It is a lucrative market for any game Or app. Riot is not going to make the mistake as some other popular company did. Just for an instance, Snapchat user decreased in millions and got bad reviewed in play store cuz apparently the CEO said something offensive to Indians.

#64
Demi
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Ah yes an entire region should not compete because 1 guy cheated 3 yrs ago. Yikes

#65
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Then NA should be banned cuz of Vanity's shotgun hacks. I've never seen the dude miss a judge or a bucky shot.

#66
Kannna
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How can you cheat with Banguard. :)

#67
Scar98
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lmao u are a clown

#68
Lelindre
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bobby_void [#6]

never said that lmao

actually so braindead. gtfo out of here

#69
staleonionGEGE
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Netero [#5]

yeah a whole region should be banned from competition because of 1 guy lol. i guess ban all of NA because of Babybay?

Thanks for the defence 🙏🏽

#70
staleonionGEGE
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gauravt98 [#34]

even forsaken has changed his name to SK rossi and doing really good in valorant

How are some people in my country so fucking sucking super stupid like you?

#71
staleonionGEGE
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How are some people in my country so fucking sucking super stupid like you?

#72
staleonionGEGE
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Zaynio [#45]

Thats not the point I was making. Not one person said to not give them a chance. However, the region should be invested in before they have a spot for champions. As far as I'm aware, South Asias teams are particularly weak at the moment and far behind the rest of the world. They need to develop and invest into that region before giving a VCT spot.

I agree but lol Vietnam, Indonesia, Oceania are give chance why not India? Global Esports, Samurai Esports and Velocity Gaming are pretty strong and experienced. SEA don't invite us, dunno why, when they invite Taiwan at 60ms. As soon asa India starts playing SEA it'll get better. Especially Global Esports and SkRossi crash all the competition. SkRossi is prolly best AWPer in Asian region.

#73
Areyannnnn
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staleonionGEGE [#70]

How are some people in my country so fucking sucking super stupid like you?

Lmfao he's obviously a bait , brother

#74
Areyannnnn
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bobby_void [#3]

Yeah ik, just saying to be cautious

Just one player cheating doesn't define the the whole region .
If that's the point you're trying to make ,then the ibp players should not be playing who knows they'll do it again. ( I like all the ibp players , this was just to make a point)

#75
Kilobyte
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staleonionGEGE [#71]

How are some people in my country so fucking sucking super stupid like you?

fucking sucking super stupid

#76
sWan10_exe
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xaboff [#7]

tbf they only have a spot in APAC LCQ where tey have to beat the second best teams from KR, Japan and SEA so I don't really see them making masters anyway

its very hard but not impossible :)

#77
sWan10_exe
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Supr3meGucci [#38]

I was watching skyesports league and i noticed that there are female layers in every team???? Why?

skyesports is not an official tourney . its a tourney where their aim is to give lime-light to CC"s in India playing Valo

#78
sWan10_exe
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Zaynio [#22]

Cheating isn't the issue, its moreso the competitive level.

Japan was already considered far behind other regions (no offense), so how will India compare? Not only is there a lack of strong history in FPS but there is also a lack of experience in Valorant currently.

Japan is new to valorant , even tho they r new ,they were able to make it to iceland

#79
sWan10_exe
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bigpeensheen [#31]

The word.exe situation is sad but they need another esport than PUBG, that region is dying of a new esport. Besides, Valorant is really popular over there

TBH the reason Indian valo community grew "alot" was because of the PUBGM players who played Valo during the game ban in India. audience got to realise that there r others games other than pubgm. The PUBGM scene here is huge AF. equally the hate the players/teams get is mostly from the PUBGM audience

#80
sm0ke3
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Kilobyte [#75]

fucking sucking super stupid

lol, inglis

#81
WhereTheFkAmI
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staleonionGEGE [#71]

How are some people in my country so fucking sucking super stupid like you?

New copy pasta let's go!
How are some people in my country so fucking sucking super stupid like you?

#82
Tanish000
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WhereTheFkAmI [#81]

New copy pasta let's go!
How are some people in my country so fucking sucking super stupid like you?

How are some people in my country so fucking sucking super stupid like you?

#83
cloud9bluefan
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-100 iq take even if they are not a strong region they have 1 billion people they deserve a spot for sure

#84
DeathStroKE
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How are some people in my country so fucking sucking super stupid like you?

#85
Gomes255
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Remember guys, it's highly likely that this dude or the other sad baiters like this went on to make alt accounts and can be seen asking "what alt" or shit like that! Be cautious! :)

#86
TinglyPiano
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bobby_void [#3]

Yeah ik, just saying to be cautious

letting american participate in any sporting event is risky tbh. You never know when they will shoot up the whole stadium. Just saying, be cautious

#87
Faqz
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TinglyPiano [#86]

letting american participate in any sporting event is risky tbh. You never know when they will shoot up the whole stadium. Just saying, be cautious

As an American I can confirm it happens all the time

#88
PotatoCh1ps
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staleonionGEGE [#71]

How are some people in my country so fucking sucking super stupid like you?

uk thats a meme right?

#89
damnj0ker
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LMFAO, what a retarded take. 0/8

#90
beb0p
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nice bait

#91
Sova_Viper_Breach_Cypher
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Faqz [#87]

As an American I can confirm it happens all the time

True lil

#92
cloud9bluefan
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More cheaters in literally any other region should we take away their slots?

#93
staleonionGEGE
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Zaynio [#22]

Cheating isn't the issue, its moreso the competitive level.

Japan was already considered far behind other regions (no offense), so how will India compare? Not only is there a lack of strong history in FPS but there is also a lack of experience in Valorant currently.

I mean you, if an Esports gets real big in Asia, as big as EU or NA, EU NA won't stand a chance, Asians are very quick to grasp

#94
staleonionGEGE
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bigpeensheen [#31]

The word.exe situation is sad but they need another esport than PUBG, that region is dying of a new esport. Besides, Valorant is really popular over there

India gets the 3rd highest Viewership in VALORANT Esports in Asia, just FYI

#95
Blinded
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TinglyPiano [#86]

letting american participate in any sporting event is risky tbh. You never know when they will shoot up the whole stadium. Just saying, be cautious

True

#96
kocunar
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Agreed

#97
GeZAhri
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LMFAO

#98
luckypleb
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LMAO

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