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Zellsis talks about how they got shit on by Gambit in scrims and how nats(best cypher in the world) is unreal
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Zellsis talks about scrimming Gambit
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FireII [#2]
- there's another thread
- nukkye talked about getting destroyed by gambit too
- we know scrim teams like andbox in na too
Yea but Andbox is not on Gambit's level cmon now
FireII [#2]
- there's another thread
- nukkye talked about getting destroyed by gambit too
- we know scrim teams like andbox in na too
yea, but Gambit were beaten be teams like FPX and Fnatic,
FPX they beat them a 2nd time and Fnatic were improving so fast that they are arguable the best team in EU rn with the new roster while Heretics were on a downward trend
so their scrim results do translate to officials unlike the turkish teams
wind_vlr [#4]Yea but Andbox is not on Gambit's level cmon now
yes, we know that from the tourneys, but high level teams have been getting destroyed by abx in scrims, even though we know that gambit is good, scrim results dont always translate is what im saying here. I dont know if u are trying to judge v1 from this, or are pointing out that we should watch out for gambit
I dislike the fact that Gambit only collected 45 pts in this Stage 2, but Fnatic / Liquid are attending Iceland and probably will manage to earn 300-400 pts each. The skill gap between these 3 is very small, and such a huge pts difference ruins it all.
It gives me a feeling that Gambit will have to compete in Last Chance qualifier... Unless these 2 above fail at Stage 3 and don't advance to Berlin, but Gambit does it.
FireII [#6]yes, we know that from the tourneys, but high level teams have been getting destroyed by abx in scrims, even though we know that gambit is good, scrim results dont always translate is what im saying here. I dont know if u are trying to judge v1 from this, or are pointing out that we should watch out for gambit
where did uk that abx destroyed high level teams
Daniveus [#9]Gambit deserves a spot in champions 100%. How many teams will qualify tho? I feel like such a big tourney should have more than 10 teams.
Champions has 16 teams.
Amaster [#10]Champions has 16 teams.
thank u. I hope they value merit over diversity. It's sad to see teams traveling across the globe just to get massacred
Daniveus [#11]thank u. I hope they value merit over diversity. It's sad to see teams traveling across the globe just to get massacred
No they don't value merit
EMEA gets 3 slots at Champs, Asia gets 5 and South America gets 4
Maybe if EMEA teams will outclass everyone else, they will give us more slots for next season, but this one is set in stone I guess
Welp looks like we will have to "enjoy" watching some Paper Rex and Furia Esports instead of Gambit, FPX, G2, Guild etc
Olofboost [#12]No they don't value merit
EMEA gets 3 slots at Champs, Asia gets 5 and South America gets 4Maybe if EMEA teams will outclass everyone else, they will give us more slots for next season, but this one is set in stone I guess
Welp looks like we will have to "enjoy" watching some Paper Rex and Furia Esports instead of Gambit, FPX, G2, Guild etc
wtf they already leaked the number of slots per region. Where are they going to get 5 teams from Asia? Sentinels 4v5ed japans best team, V1 scrimmed Nuturn, and Zellsis said they were alright because he "didn't want to be mean". Like that tournament should be about the best teams in the world, they are literally making NA and EU challengers more competitive than worlds, it doesn't make sense.
Daniveus [#14]wtf they already leaked the number of slots per region. Where are they going to get 5 teams from Asia? Sentinels 4v5ed japans best team, V1 scrimmed Nuturn, and Zellsis said they were alright because he "didn't want to be mean". Like that tournament should be about the best teams in the world, they are literally making NA and EU challengers more competitive than worlds, it doesn't make sense.
https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VALORANT_Champions_Tour/2021/Champions
Just need to make Champions 20 teams, with 3 more slots for EMEA and 1 more for NA, and leave Asia / South America untouched
sm0ke3 [#8]where did uk that abx destroyed high level teams
tweets from 100t, envy, sentinels, c9b players
sm0ke3 [#5]yea, but Gambit were beaten be teams like FPX and Fnatic,
FPX they beat them a 2nd time and Fnatic were improving so fast that they are arguable the best team in EU rn with the new roster while Heretics were on a downward trend
so their scrim results do translate to officials unlike the turkish teams
Well... ABX beat SEN 2-0 only to lose to them 2-1 later in challengers 2. The opposite is true for GMB/FPX in EMEA playoffs.
Olofboost [#15]https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VALORANT_Champions_Tour/2021/Champions
Just need to make Champions 20 teams, with 3 more slots for EMEA and 1 more for NA, and leave Asia / South America untouched
slots may change after we see the first international event
FireII [#16]tweets from 100t, envy, sentinels, c9b players
i have read that they do really really well in scrims, didnt think they destroy these guys
ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8 [#17]Well... ABX beat SEN 2-0 only to lose to them 2-1 later in challengers 2. The opposite is true for GMB/FPX in EMEA playoffs.
but ABX only looked good against SEN that one time, and SEN didnt do that good at the start of the tournament
Olofboost [#12]No they don't value merit
EMEA gets 3 slots at Champs, Asia gets 5 and South America gets 4Maybe if EMEA teams will outclass everyone else, they will give us more slots for next season, but this one is set in stone I guess
Welp looks like we will have to "enjoy" watching some Paper Rex and Furia Esports instead of Gambit, FPX, G2, Guild etc
NA get 3 too.... South America should get 3 and EMEA should get 4 or maybe 5 with SA getting 2
sm0ke3 [#20]but ABX only looked good against SEN that one time, and SEN didnt do that good at the start of the tournament
fpx looked horrible against liquid and gambit the second time, nothing like normal as well
Olofboost [#7]I dislike the fact that Gambit only collected 45 pts in this Stage 2, but Fnatic / Liquid are attending Iceland and probably will manage to earn 300-400 pts each. The skill gap between these 3 is very small, and such a huge pts difference ruins it all.
It gives me a feeling that Gambit will have to compete in Last Chance qualifier... Unless these 2 above fail at Stage 3 and don't advance to Berlin, but Gambit does it.
dw they can absolutely smash the last chance. they are incredible
TinglyPiano [#21]there's also such thing as scrim god and not doing shit when it matters. Just look at TSM in league of legends worlds. They are the scrim god, winnining against teams like SKT, but we all know how it went in the end when in games that really matter
but gambit smashed FPX and BBL. I think they are pretty good in officials too xd
FireII [#23]fpx looked horrible against liquid and gambit the second time, nothing like normal as well
FPX choked against liquid, not against Gambit too, all the individuals looked good, except shadow team flashed a few times on icebox
sm0ke3 [#19]i have read that they do really really well in scrims, didnt think they destroy these guys
Daps: "XSET is winning iceland"
Ethan: "You obviously haven't scrimmed Andbox"
Crashies: "Oh we have, trust me they are CLOSE CONTENDERS"
FilthyAnimal [#28]Daps: "XSET is winning iceland"
Ethan: "You obviously haven't scrimmed Andbox"
Crashies: "Oh we have, trust me they are CLOSE CONTENDERS"
ironically enough, all of those teams and players mentioned are not in contention for iceland.
Amaster [#10]Champions has 16 teams.
VCT Masters 3 has 16 teams.... champions have not been released
GetsystheGr8 [#30]VCT Masters 3 has 16 teams.... champions have not been released
Actually yes, they've released. Champions will have:
By circuit points:
NA: 2 slots
EMEA: 2 slots
BR: 2 slots
LATAM: 1 slot
Japan: 1 slot
SEA: 2 slots
KR: 1 slot
by Last Chance Qualify:
NA: 1 slot
EMEA: 1 slot
ASIA: 1 slot
SA: 1 slot
by winning Masters 3 Berlim:
1 slot for the winner
source: https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VALORANT_Champions_Tour/2021/Champions
hekzy [#26]but gambit smashed FPX and BBL. I think they are pretty good in officials too xd
bbl were trash, fpx had a bad day. (not to discredit gambit i honesly hope they make champs or masters 3 at least)
Yugure [#31]Actually yes, they've released. Champions will have:
By circuit points:
NA: 2 slots
EMEA: 2 slots
BR: 2 slots
LATAM: 1 slot
Japan: 1 slot
SEA: 2 slots
KR: 1 slotby Last Chance Qualify:
NA: 1 slot
EMEA: 1 slot
ASIA: 1 slot
SA: 1 slotby winning Masters 3 Berlim:
1 slot for the winnersource: https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VALORANT_Champions_Tour/2021/Champions
Mhm.
Olofboost [#7]I dislike the fact that Gambit only collected 45 pts in this Stage 2, but Fnatic / Liquid are attending Iceland and probably will manage to earn 300-400 pts each. The skill gap between these 3 is very small, and such a huge pts difference ruins it all.
It gives me a feeling that Gambit will have to compete in Last Chance qualifier... Unless these 2 above fail at Stage 3 and don't advance to Berlin, but Gambit does it.
they also beat fpx after only vsing them once in a match. look how fast they adapt to teams. i would suspect they could beat fnatic if they played again
Yugure [#31]Actually yes, they've released. Champions will have:
By circuit points:
NA: 2 slots
EMEA: 2 slots
BR: 2 slots
LATAM: 1 slot
Japan: 1 slot
SEA: 2 slots
KR: 1 slotby Last Chance Qualify:
NA: 1 slot
EMEA: 1 slot
ASIA: 1 slot
SA: 1 slotby winning Masters 3 Berlim:
1 slot for the winnersource: https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VALORANT_Champions_Tour/2021/Champions
emea =2
asia = 4
(circuit points)
fuck you riot
also why do you seperate asia in the circuit points but you dont seperate EMEA????
HaSanity [#35]emea =2
asia = 4
(circuit points)
fuck you riot
also why do you seperate asia in the circuit points but you dont seperate EMEA????
Don't forget about last chance qualifier. The actual team distribution will be:
NA: 3
EMEA: 3
South America: 4 (Including Brazil)
Asia: 5
Makes no sense. Take at least 1 spot from Asia and give it to TR/CIS.
Olofboost [#12]No they don't value merit
EMEA gets 3 slots at Champs, Asia gets 5 and South America gets 4Maybe if EMEA teams will outclass everyone else, they will give us more slots for next season, but this one is set in stone I guess
Welp looks like we will have to "enjoy" watching some Paper Rex and Furia Esports instead of Gambit, FPX, G2, Guild etc
u includud kr in asia or am i tripping?
FireII [#32]bbl were trash, fpx had a bad day. (not to discredit gambit i honesly hope they make champs or masters 3 at least)
BBL was the only turkish team that performed. They almost threw liquid in the lower bracket, where they would've faced Gambit
hekzy [#40]BBL was the only turkish team that performed. They almost threw liquid in the lower bracket, where they would've faced Gambit
OXG did beat Guild, was it a fluke?
FilthyAnimal [#41]OXG did beat Guild, was it a fluke?
oh yeah forgot xd
Anyway, BBL are not an easy team to beat imo
DeathStroKE [#36]Turkey and CIS teams deserve a seperate slot
No this would end up verry badly,
Because if you think about it every region is getting stronger with playing each other,
competing in Emea with EU, CİS and TR teams is more beneficial for everyone,
so Emea is good right now but their Emea slots can be increased(Not sure about TR toght they got destroyed in last emea except SMB).
GetsystheGr8 [#22]NA get 3 too.... South America should get 3 and EMEA should get 4 or maybe 5 with SA getting 2
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DeathStroKE [#36]Turkey and CIS teams deserve a seperate slot
no, there are only 4 much known teams in CIS SUB region no competition for Gambit.
It will just decrease the skill if not many teams are there to face.
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