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R ACS K D A +/– KAST ADR HS% FK FD +/–
viper
1.14 1.26 1.00 155 167 144 12 7 5 / 12 5 7 / 5 2 3 0 +2 -2 61% 58% 64% 113 122 103 27% 32% 20% 2 1 1 2 1 1 0 0 0
brimstone
1.07 0.69 1.48 223 119 338 19 6 13 / 15 8 7 / 2 1 1 +4 -2 +6 70% 67% 73% 123 76 175 36% 38% 35% 3 0 3 2 1 1 +1 -1 +2
raze
1.05 1.06 1.04 238 261 213 18 11 7 / 16 9 7 / 5 3 2 +2 +2 0 70% 83% 55% 152 186 115 27% 29% 23% 1 0 1 3 3 0 -2 -3 +1
skye
0.96 0.95 0.98 173 169 177 14 7 7 / 15 8 7 / 4 2 2 -1 -1 0 74% 75% 73% 107 123 89 35% 36% 33% 3 1 2 2 0 2 +1 +1 0
sova
0.81 0.96 0.66 161 205 115 12 8 4 / 16 8 8 / 6 2 4 -4 0 -4 70% 92% 45% 112 143 79 37% 35% 43% 1 1 0 4 4 0 -3 -3 0
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brimstone
1.10 0.87 1.30 217 187 246 15 5 10 / 16 10 6 / 8 5 3 -1 -5 +4 70% 64% 75% 136 130 142 32% 41% 23% 4 2 2 1 1 0 +3 +1 +2
viper
1.08 1.14 1.02 165 186 147 14 7 7 / 10 4 6 / 1 1 0 +4 +3 +1 74% 82% 67% 116 119 115 34% 29% 39% 1 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 0
jett
0.99 0.88 1.09 195 198 194 15 7 8 / 15 8 7 / 5 4 1 0 -1 +1 57% 45% 67% 120 130 110 22% 22% 21% 3 0 3 6 4 2 -3 -4 +1
skye
0.99 0.77 1.20 201 139 258 16 6 10 / 15 7 8 / 4 1 3 +1 -1 +2 70% 73% 67% 117 59 169 32% 27% 35% 3 1 2 1 1 0 +2 0 +2
sage
0.69 1.06 0.36 171 257 94 14 11 3 / 19 8 11 / 7 4 3 -5 +3 -8 70% 73% 67% 106 140 74 28% 33% 19% 2 1 1 1 1 0 +1 0 +1
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Defend
R ACS K D A +/– KAST ADR HS% FK FD +/–
viper
1.26 1.21 1.30 166 159 174 28 14 14 / 20 12 8 / 16 5 11 +8 +2 +6 72% 63% 82% 115 112 119 27% 27% 28% 2 1 1 2 1 1 0 0 0
skye cypher
1.20 1.00 1.42 250 193 312 40 16 24 / 31 17 14 / 12 4 8 +9 -1 +10 74% 63% 86% 147 121 176 34% 35% 33% 8 3 5 4 2 2 +4 +1 +3
brimstone skye
1.11 0.72 1.53 223 129 326 36 11 25 / 30 17 13 / 15 6 9 +6 -6 +12 76% 71% 82% 117 80 158 26% 24% 28% 6 1 5 3 1 2 +3 0 +3
raze omen
0.96 1.05 0.86 201 248 151 31 21 10 / 31 18 13 / 11 5 6 0 +3 -3 76% 83% 68% 126 165 83 26% 29% 20% 4 1 3 5 3 2 -1 -2 +1
sova jett
0.92 0.83 1.02 175 184 166 27 13 14 / 31 18 13 / 10 6 4 -4 -5 +1 72% 75% 68% 116 126 105 32% 31% 35% 4 3 1 8 8 0 -4 -5 +1
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brimstone omen
1.04 0.98 1.10 227 243 212 34 17 17 / 32 19 13 / 11 5 6 +2 -2 +4 72% 59% 83% 140 135 143 29% 29% 29% 5 3 2 2 1 1 +3 +2 +1
sage
0.97 0.84 1.08 245 211 277 38 17 21 / 37 18 19 / 12 6 6 +1 -1 +2 70% 68% 71% 156 119 189 32% 27% 36% 7 2 5 4 2 2 +3 0 +3
skye sova
0.86 0.57 1.11 162 116 204 23 8 15 / 31 17 14 / 13 4 9 -8 -9 +1 61% 55% 67% 102 61 140 34% 29% 38% 4 2 2 4 2 2 0 0 0
jett
0.82 0.50 1.12 157 131 181 26 10 16 / 32 19 13 / 6 5 1 -6 -9 +3 54% 41% 67% 93 80 105 24% 24% 23% 4 0 4 11 8 3 -7 -8 +1
viper killjoy
0.80 0.81 0.79 151 169 135 22 10 12 / 30 15 15 / 5 4 1 -8 -5 -3 65% 73% 58% 108 116 101 21% 18% 25% 2 0 2 3 2 1 -1 -2 +1
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1.44 1.04 1.87 326 217 447 26 9 17 / 16 9 7 / 8 2 6 +10 0 +10 74% 50% 100% 188 119 263 33% 33% 33% 5 2 3 2 2 0 +3 0 +3
viper
1.37 1.16 1.61 176 152 203 16 7 9 / 8 7 1 / 11 3 8 +8 0 +8 83% 67% 100% 118 103 134 28% 22% 35% 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
skye
1.14 0.74 1.58 222 139 314 17 5 12 / 15 9 6 / 13 5 8 +2 -4 +6 83% 75% 91% 111 84 141 18% 14% 21% 3 1 2 1 0 1 +2 +1 +1
jett
1.03 0.70 1.38 188 164 216 15 5 10 / 15 10 5 / 4 4 0 0 -5 +5 74% 58% 91% 120 110 132 29% 27% 31% 3 2 1 4 4 0 -1 -2 +1
omen
0.88 1.05 0.69 164 234 89 13 10 3 / 15 9 6 / 6 2 4 -2 +1 -3 83% 83% 82% 100 144 52 24% 28% 15% 3 1 2 2 0 2 +1 +1 0
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sage
1.24 0.63 1.81 318 166 459 24 6 18 / 18 10 8 / 5 2 3 +6 -4 +10 70% 64% 75% 206 98 305 34% 20% 42% 5 1 4 3 1 2 +2 0 +2
omen
0.99 1.09 0.90 236 300 178 19 12 7 / 16 9 7 / 3 0 3 +3 +3 0 74% 55% 92% 143 140 145 27% 22% 35% 1 1 0 1 0 1 0 +1 -1
sova
0.72 0.38 1.03 122 93 150 7 2 5 / 16 10 6 / 9 3 6 -9 -8 -1 52% 36% 67% 88 63 111 38% 31% 45% 1 1 0 3 1 2 -2 0 -2
jett
0.66 0.13 1.14 118 65 168 11 3 8 / 17 11 6 / 1 1 0 -6 -8 +2 52% 36% 67% 67 30 100 28% 33% 26% 1 0 1 5 4 1 -4 -4 0
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0.53 0.49 0.57 137 151 124 8 3 5 / 20 11 9 / 4 3 1 -12 -8 -4 57% 64% 50% 100 113 88 14% 12% 15% 1 0 1 2 2 0 -1 -2 +1
Head-to-head
Past Matches
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#1
gutszeraa
-13
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FNC 2-1 SEN

#2
Noyn
-20
Frags
+

Fnatic 2-0 Sharks (60% vs 40%)

Or

Fnatic 2-0 Sentinels (60% vs 40%)

#3
drewz2002
-7
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FNC 2-0 Sharks

#4
PP4ND4
-3
Frags
+

SEN 2-1 VKS

#5
Traderslife
5
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+

Fnatic vs Liquid lez go

#6
Gunzout97
-11
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Traderslife [#5]

Fnatic vs Liquid lez go

Let's be honest Liquid ain't making it past Vikings/Sen in lower bracket

#7
Olofboost
6
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Gunzout97 [#6]

Let's be honest Liquid ain't making it past Vikings/Sen in lower bracket

Sacy said in an interview that they didn't plan any changes to meta and gonna keep playing all the same stuff they used in Brazil

If he isn't lying, rest in peace Vikings lol

#8
Gunzout97
-3
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Olofboost [#7]

Sacy said in an interview that they didn't plan any changes to meta and gonna keep playing all the same stuff they used in Brazil

If he isn't lying, rest in peace Vikings lol

Still I don’t have much faith in Liquid

#9
matthewdrl
1
Frags
+

NU 2-1 Liquid (Probably won't happen but I can dream)

#10
Traderslife
10
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Gunzout97 [#8]

Still I don’t have much faith in Liquid

You probably didn't watch liquid winning the qualification tournament. At the beginning they looked weak, no one thought they'd win it all.

trust me once liquid get comfortable, they'll become unstoppable

#11
ranker11
10
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Liquid gonna get spanked by Derke

#12
SENBobstar
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gutszeraa [#1]

FNC 2-1 SEN

Liquid vs Fnatic

#13
impoorAF
-2
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Liquid is gunna go against V1 again

#14
TimeZ
5
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Whoever makes it from vks/liquid loses to the winner of V1/FNATIC. The winner of that match then plays against Nuturn. If it's FNATIC, I think FNATIC wins nu and loses to sen in grand finals. If it's V1, nu vs V1 could go either way. It would be exciting to have an all na final and we can see how the new and improved V1 stacks up against sen

#15
thebrownlegend
3
Frags
+

Clash of the EU titans. Rematch season LFG!!

#16
Ryuzth
6
Frags
+

This could very easily been the tounament grand final.
Rooting for Fnatic but gl to both teams.

#17
thebrownlegend
2
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Ryuzth [#16]

This could very easily been the tounament grand final.
Rooting for Fnatic but gl to both teams.

Winner plays Nuturn and then proably sentinels in GF

#18
curree
0
Frags
+

fnc 2-1 tl

#19
Glycoroldas
2
Frags
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I think fnatic have more chances to win against sentinels than liquid. But I suppose this one is going to be close again, which might force fnatic to reveal some of their additional strats(assuming they were saving any for very late stages of the tournament). Issue is, V1 have shown that liquid can be easily shut down if you don't let scream/jamppi feel comfortable.

#20
Liquid_fan
3
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+

TL 2- 0 FNATIC

The grand final in the lower bracket, I feel sad for FNATIC they deserve to go further

#21
michey
-1
Frags
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FNC 2-0 TL
I just feel like Fnatic is the better team overall honestly and they might win it all

#22
HLTVtoxic
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despite being a liquid fan i dont see liquid taking this honestly. only hope for the very best but it doesnt look good for them

#23
Zoxlr
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Noyn [#2]

Fnatic 2-0 Sharks (60% vs 40%)

Or

Fnatic 2-0 Sentinels (60% vs 40%)

SHARKS KEKW

#24
Heavon
9
Frags
+

Well...

HERE WE GO AGAIN...

#25
Dr4goNN
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Liquid_fan [#20]

TL 2- 0 FNATIC

The grand final in the lower bracket, I feel sad for FNATIC they deserve to go further

they gonna beat liquid

#26
Stratum7
3
Frags
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Fnatic 2-1 TL

#27
Hiroka12
2
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TL 2-1 FNATIC

#28
106hGri
3
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fnc 2-1 liquid no joke

#29
AdN-
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LET'S GO FNATIC 🧡🖤

#30
Acount123
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Wait why are both EU teams in lower bracket?

#31
CherryCoke
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2-0 FNC

Liquid is my 2nd favorite team. I have been a liquid fan since the sc2 days, but FNC is just better.

#32
V0sotros
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Acount123 [#30]

Wait why are both EU teams in lower bracket?

Both lost their first game

#33
swaG0x
2
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Fnatic 2-1 TL, will be a close match anyways.

#34
qoznyyy
1
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NOOOOOoooooooo

#35
Zoxlr
-13
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Acount123 [#30]

Wait why are both EU teams in lower bracket?

Because they suck

#36
eyza
1
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FNC 2-0 TL

#37
Velurom
2
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I don't know who I want to win since both the teams are my favourites...

#38
Aris
3
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TL 2-0 FNC

#39
tzdevil
2
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Oh no

#40
DogOnMan
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Zoxlr [#35]

Because they suck

wheres v1

#41
Liquid_fan
-1
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Dr4goNN [#25]

they gonna beat liquid

I doubt it brother Derke is very good but he is not Scream, also jampi will cancel his attempts at hero plays with the Op so the truth is I see unlikely that Derke can carry fnatic

#42
xaboff
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DogOnMan [#40]

wheres v1

And tsm

#43
Acount123
-3
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DogOnMan [#40]

wheres v1

if v1 lost against liquid (which they didnt) they would have had an easier bracket

#44
KohvX
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I suppport both teams, but would prefer Liquid winning so we can have SEN vs Liquid in the finals, since we already saw SEN vs FNC. (Lets be honest Nuturn is not winning against either FNC/TL)

#45
jblancard
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Noyn [#2]

Fnatic 2-0 Sharks (60% vs 40%)

Or

Fnatic 2-0 Sentinels (60% vs 40%)

LOL

#46
Netero
4
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yeah idk this can go either way. Liquid has been a little sloppy though

#47
KIPI
1
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Liquid 2 = FNC 0

#48
DARZY
0
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last head to head liquid won, just saying

#49
vyltx
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KIPI [#47]

Liquid 2 = FNC 0

maybe 2 - 1 to make things more intresting

#50
Jkatona1
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2x0 FNC Boaster SUPREMACY

#51
Gomes255
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Fnatic win or I'm pissing my pants

#52
Traderslife
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Gomes255 [#51]

Fnatic win or I'm pissing my pants

get ready.

#53
Kannna
5
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Team Liquid 2-1 FNC. banger series. so sad one of the eu teams has to go

#54
thebrownlegend
4
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Kannna [#53]

Team Liquid 2-1 FNC. banger series. so sad one of the eu teams has to go

facts. Let's go liquid!

#55
Youngztar
2
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Liquid_fan [#20]

TL 2- 0 FNATIC

The grand final in the lower bracket, I feel sad for FNATIC they deserve to go further

grand final? did you watch sentinels? the grand final that we deserve is FNC x SEN

#56
akraylite
6
Frags
+
KohvX [#44]

I suppport both teams, but would prefer Liquid winning so we can have SEN vs Liquid in the finals, since we already saw SEN vs FNC. (Lets be honest Nuturn is not winning against either FNC/TL)

same dude, but as much as i want liquid to win to get that banger final, i think fnatic will win and maybe we can see their redemption arc in the finals, its good either way imo

#57
big_chungus69
0
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+

fnatic take it this time

#58
kapteN
3
Frags
+

Fnatic is the stronger team tactically easily

Liquid has a chance at winning however if both scream and jamppi turn up. Oftentimes it’s only 1 of the 2. They need both if they want to win.

#59
ChowChow
1
Frags
+

This topic rarely show up. Unlike in NA which rivalry is tight.
So which team is stronger between these 2.

#60
HLTVtoxic
-1
Frags
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kapteN [#58]

Fnatic is the stronger team tactically easily

Liquid has a chance at winning however if both scream and jamppi turn up. Oftentimes it’s only 1 of the 2. They need both if they want to win.

*often times its only scream

#61
p1lot
0
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Youngztar [#55]

grand final? did you watch sentinels? the grand final that we deserve is FNC x SEN

he said lower grand finals

#62
kapteN
3
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HLTVtoxic [#60]

*often times its only scream

Jamppi has been showing up about half the matches they play.

#63
n1zo
2
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+

Liquid got this

#64
froz
0
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2-1 fnc

#65
fitthora
1
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+

banger match
think TL win this one in a close series

#66
emtikej1337
1
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+

2-0 TL

#67
wedqatwrtgehge
2
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p1lot [#61]

he said lower grand finals

he said grand final in the lower bracket implying these are the best two teams

#68
Dell
1
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+

Banger series. Really hope to see great match from everyone on both sides, they need to show up

#69
ntnoob
0
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+

why start 2 hours late?

#70
sentence
2
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+

Fnc 1-0. They won't even play the second map cuz TL will be beat up so bad in the first map that they will ff before the second map even starts.

#71
Ryxof
0
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ntnoob [#69]

why start 2 hours late?

Maybe NA timezone

#72
PicKaRuu
1
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Ryxof [#71]

Maybe NA timezone

EU game NA timezone

#73
Ayke
0
Frags
+

fnatic is definitely the better looking team at this event than liquid

I would say 2-1 fnc

#74
caganisso
1
Frags
+

Over 2.5 maps easy af

#75
GetsystheGr8
-12
Frags
+

EU VS EU ... in lower bracket... dogshit region

#76
vollizie
0
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GetsystheGr8 [#75]

EU VS EU ... in lower bracket... dogshit region

Chill

#77
Rizvi
2
Frags
+

The match would be so fun on LAN. Considering the banter these guys already have amongst them.

#78
BARRYALLEN
1
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Rizvi [#77]

The match would be so fun on LAN. Considering the banter these guys already have amongst them.

Lucky it’s Lan then

#79
HaSanity
1
Frags
+

2 eu in top 4 = EU better NA trash

#80
fitthora
0
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GetsystheGr8 [#75]

EU VS EU ... in lower bracket... dogshit region

at least we have 2 teams in TOP4

#81
LifeIsALie
1
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+

PRE MATCH PREDICTION
FNC 2-1 Liquid

#82
fitthora
0
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+

based on map picks 2-1 TL

#83
pewpew
3
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+

The only reason why I want TL to win is because I want SEN to beat every EU team.

#84
Acount123
0
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+

EU brain so small liquid dont know how to ban bind LOL

#85
JackOfHearts
0
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+

Why fnc so good at bind? Can someone explain it to me?

#86
pewpew
0
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HaSanity [#79]

2 eu in top 4 = EU better NA trash

Let's see if EU can advance from Lower Finals first and then we will talk.

#87
JackOfHearts
1
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+

Yep. Agree

#88
khi
0
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rough map for scream =\

#89
Noblefps
0
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+

scream trolling KEKW

#90
deva
2
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+

Why Liquid ban Icebox when they won FNC on it last time? And they let Bind be played when it's basically a free win for FNC? At this point I'm starting to question Sliggy's choices.

#91
thebrownlegend
2
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+

Liquid just threw that round...

#92
deva
2
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deva [#90]

Why Liquid ban Icebox when they won FNC on it last time? And they let Bind be played when it's basically a free win for FNC? At this point I'm starting to question Sliggy's choices.

and they trolled last round... fuck dude.

#93
thebrownlegend
2
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thebrownlegend [#91]

Liquid just threw that round...

Up 5v3 in post plant... Wtf.

#94
qoznyyy
0
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pewpew [#83]

The only reason why I want TL to win is because I want SEN to beat every EU team.

idk fnatic looks stronger rm

#95
kyLeria_
0
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+

raze ult vs 2 lamp play, viper is not at lineups, what's liquid playing tho .. this match is so weird

#96
ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8
2
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+

If this goes to Split and FNC has prepped nothing for it, they lose.

#97
hiyo
2
Frags
+

LIQUID THROWING ROUNDS AGAIN LOL

#98
Heavon
2
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deva [#92]

and they trolled last round... fuck dude.

AND instead of picking Split to secure 1-1 in case.. they pick Ascent. It's so fcking insane

#99
thebrownlegend
4
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+

If liquid take ascent, i think they take Split for sure

#100
Expert_
1
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+

Who is the igl of liquid

#101
The_wick
4
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Liquid really rely on scream

#102
ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8
3
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Expert_ [#100]

Who is the igl of liquid

They have no IGL.

#103
pewpew
-3
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"NA dry peeks too much."

Jamppi proceeds to dry peek every single angle to see if there are enemies.

#104
deva
9
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pewpew [#103]

"NA dry peeks too much."

Jamppi proceeds to dry peek every single angle to see if there are enemies.

Jamppi is memed in EU for being braindead aggro, so you don't have a point.

#105
Gunzout97
2
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ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8 [#96]

If this goes to Split and FNC has prepped nothing for it, they lose.

How do you know tho? They might have something crazy prepared.
Edit-Okay mb I misinterpreted your sentence.

#106
CAp
1
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gutszeraa [#1]

FNC 2-1 SEN

kkkkkkk

#107
BirdB0i
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Expert_ [#100]

Who is the igl of liquid

Soulcas
https://twitter.com/LiquidValorant/status/1396487205577756677

#108
ntnoob
0
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Ryxof [#71]

Maybe NA timezone

fuck this man i need to watch ucl final

#109
taxxje
2
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BirdB0i [#107]

Soulcas
https://twitter.com/LiquidValorant/status/1396487205577756677

Scream said during the press conference that there’s no “true” IGL but just 5 brains working together.

Also in the liquid comms video I notice Jamppi and Scream taking much more of a leader role.

#110
whatspoppin
-1
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rough losing eco at 8-5 XD

#111
maldoror
4
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why does scream always puts his head down after every round liquid loses? I get he's probably shelling his anger but imo it probably lowers your team moral to turn to your right and see your star player cup his head in his hands as if you've already lost

#112
hiyo
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maldoror [#111]

why does scream always puts his head down after every round liquid loses? I get he's probably shelling his anger but imo it probably lowers your team moral to turn to your right and see your star player cup his head in his hands as if you've already lost

scream's always been an emotive guy

#113
mAko
2
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FREE scream

#114
kyLeria_
1
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Magnum double kill !

#115
caganisso
2
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liquid is garbage

#116
lul321
1
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Ok, that's actually 322 KKKKKKKKKKK unbeliavable

#117
HaSanity
1
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IM DONE

#118
pewpew
3
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If Riot doesn't nerf Judge, I don't know what to say anymore.

#119
caganisso
-1
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THEY ARE SO BAD LOOOL TL GARBAGE

#120
pewpew
2
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People saying TL 2 - 0 SEN, where you at?

#121
ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8
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Fnatic full 2-0 run from lower bracket inc?

#122
fitthora
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wp both teams, dunno why sliggy waited so long with timeout

#123
moet
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nothing new just expected

#124
hiyo
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gg rip finals picks

#125
deww
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magnum is a beast

#126
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Traderslife [#10]

You probably didn't watch liquid winning the qualification tournament. At the beginning they looked weak, no one thought they'd win it all.

trust me once liquid get comfortable, they'll become unstoppable

Now what?

#127
kyot2k
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gg

#128
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Liquid_fan [#41]

I doubt it brother Derke is very good but he is not Scream, also jampi will cancel his attempts at hero plays with the Op so the truth is I see unlikely that Derke can carry fnatic

Now cry

#129
trau
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gg

#130
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DARZY [#48]

last head to head liquid won, just saying

Now what

#131
idontknow
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So crucial mistakes from TL, feels like they almost lost to themselves in the end. Taking nothing away from FNC though, they played very well. Very even teams in terms of skill but in the end couple crucial mistakes cost TL both maps, in Bind lost 5v3 post-plant and in Ascent lost versus a full eco. GG.

#132
STRAWHAT
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FNatic teamplay and mid round shot calling is way better then liquid in this masters tournament, good run for liquid nontheless but definitely not the results they we're hoping for

#133
idontknow
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STRAWHAT [#132]

FNatic teamplay and mid round shot calling is way better then liquid in this masters tournament, good run for liquid nontheless but definitely not the results they we're hoping for

Yea, you can really see from TL's gameplay that they don't have a dedicated IGL.

#134
za1x
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No rating change for fnatic?

#135
Liquid_fan
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A shame, FNATIC played better and they deserved to win, the key was the best Magnum I have seen with a crazy reading I managed to cancel the TL strats many times. GG

#136
Liquid_fan
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V [#128]

Now cry

:(

#137
Donotgood
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Jampi is so incosistent some good game more bad games and more throws then actual some good plays.. he throwed ascent with overlookin this cypher..

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Traderslife
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pewpew [#120]

People saying TL 2 - 0 SEN, where you at?

could've gone both ways.

Many Mistakes made by liquid.

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