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NA ascension tier list

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#1
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S: m80, FaZe
A: guard, SR
B: oxygen, g2, TSM
C: mr beast team, toast team, stewie team, trick team, city boys, ex-soar
D:
E: soniqs

thoughts?

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How is m80 S-tier??

#3
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nismo has a restaurant

#4
Pumsyslayer
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Fair point

#20
nematoma
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but the question is what type of restaurant?

#32
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im pretty sure its a franchise of a lebanese fast food chain called Amir

#36
number1_MIBR_hater
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top 10 arguments in anime

#10
dexter000111
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NiSMO has shiny bald head

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bald buff

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S: Gourd, M80,FAZE
A: SR,OXG,G2
B: TSM, DR
C: SLM, EX-SOAR, SONIQS
D: CITY BOYS

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im skeptical about guard without mce, tho i hope they do well

#11
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thats fair to say. Though they have kept most of the roster. + tex which is a pretty good swap for saya

#13
Xav
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yeah they rumored to get joshRT from nrg too

#6
KyLZi
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I think I have G2 in A or B below SR but above oxygen.

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dexter000111
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I agree with all but u did SONIQS tooooo dirty
Also mr beast is making a team ????????

#12
Xav
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https://twitter.com/FlyNN_vlr/status/1602506859893637120/photo/1

yeah hes looking to sign governor's team

#15
dexter000111
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that's a promising team honestly
brawk, aproto and gov are solid players
Not too sure about flyuh and sym tho

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Gov only good in ranked

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SR should be S-tier tho

#14
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M80 is going no where if zander is gonna igl

#16
Xav
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johnqt is igl

#18
raynexo
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not true + johnqt igl

#17
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FaZe is not going to lose a single map

#21
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Dicey might fall off because of the chamber nerfs

#22
babysasuke
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His Jett is clean too, he'll be okay

#23
my_fav_team_is_M3C
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Babybay on jett

#28
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babybay on flex

#29
ilovefrozenblueberries
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babybay on

#30
my_fav_team_is_M3C
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best entry in NA flexing? fuck this shit vro

#33
babysasuke
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wym

Dicey on Jett

Babybay on other duelists

Check their last few series

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S Tier: SR, TGRD
A Tier: FaZe, M80, TSM
B Tier: G2, Mr Beast Org, OXG, MAD Lions, City Boys

rest doesn't matter

#25
Xav
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i dont understand how people are rating SR higher than faze when faze was like top 5 in na for 2 stages and SR did nothing special

#26
dexter000111
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recency bias

#27
WinterZ
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Idk how FaZe will adapt to chamber meta going away and rn Shopify have 2 of the most impactful supports in ascension with moose and v1c plus mada and bdog

make of that what you will

#38
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People are rating M80 as S tier when they lost kaplan and Ghost was not even that good so don’t trust people to rate anyone properly

#31
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No order
S: Faze, SR, M80
A: Guard, TSM, G2
B: OXG, MAD Lions, City Boys, etc.

Guard doesn't have a confirmed 5th right? I was hoping it was going to be Will but I heard he is going to Mad Lions.

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it’s not confirmed but tex is likely their 5th

#34
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Out of your list ...

  • I wouldn't place G2 that low because they aren't quite toothless... I haven't seen much from OXY except Penny/Wippie and Shahz/Dapr - and I know the consensus however I've seen them perform very well, and it appears to be more of an approach issue, to me ... for which they have a very capable coach - Ian Harding.
  • We haven't seen the best of TSM yet - they are usual suspects from previous times who can and know how to bite quite effectively.
  • SR is clearly trending, and there is no reason not to have some faith in them at the present - a really great team with interesting players.
  • Now The guard... what worries me is that they've lost its "playmaker" (not an IGL, of course, but a duelist who can properly stretch the opposition) - Sayaplayer? If you recall Haven from https://www.vlr.gg/77792/optic-gaming-vs-the-guard-champions-tour-north-america-stage-1-challengers-gf/?game=74769&tab=overview/?game=74769&tab=overview which was freakishly outstanding from Sayaplayer and the entire squad... but he's gone now, and it's difficult to foresee how they'll replace him with as exciting gameplay as he used to offer for the team.
  • And m80... to be absolutely honest, if they manage to fulfil their full potential as a team (which is as vast as...), it's game over. Not meaning to be insulting to other teams but this gang has some cracked individuals ... I mean Nismo, eeiu(who's improved immensly), koalanoob(I still remember some of his plays) and zander. Johnqt will be the IGL to suit the team which also makes sense here... these lot are looking dangerous af.
  • Can't add much on the rest but Soniqs should not be that low, for sure.

So:

  • Looks like you've nailed m80 on the right spot...
  • Yet not sure about Faze but perhaps you've also placed them more or less in their deserved spot for the start...
  • I argue that G2 should be at least in A - IMHO...
  • I'm conflicted about TSM, since you either put them correctly or they should be in A as well.
  • And FFS ... please move Soniqs to a more appropriate spot (not lower than C, no brainer) - don't be lazy.
#37
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s tier guard a tier faze and SR everyone else coinflip

#42
nutab1e
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mad lions S

#39
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IMO Guard should be the pure favorites coming in, Tex is an obvious downgrade but I think people will be pleasantly surprised by his duelist capabilities with his best supporting cast he's ever played for. Add that in with Trent and Valyn being the two best players in ascension this team is filthy.
M80 have the highest ceiling but I don't think they win, more likely they do well and guys like Zander, EEIU get poached.
Of the unsigned teams Ex-Soar has the most cinderella run potential, Oderus is only a year off being the next big IGL and Thief and Epathy are cracked out.
TSM will be the worst of the notable signed teams, Hazed is one of the better IGLs here but Corey/Seven is a bad fragging duo(and I'm saying that as a huge corey fan) and I don't think the old Gen.G boys are enough to put them over your Faze or SR type teams.
City Boys will also be ass and Paincakes will be one of the biggest What If? IGLs of the T2 scene(that is to say IDK how he hasn't been picked up by an org yet but this current team just keeps getting worse and worse every roster move)
Of the true T3 players and teams, I see Team Reckaroo being signed by the end of the year, Tech being the next Ban Oxy Jawgemo type duelist player, Playboi Joe will be on a huge org by '24, Jona and Lear will headline an Akrew type org in 2024 that does well with good backing, and my big prediction is that Snxper and Lin(shoutout Virtuoso former duo) will be seen like Trent and Bdog were coming into the year and have huge rises to the top of T2 and eventually Tier 1.

#41
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S tier: FaZe, SR, TGRD, M80
A tier: TSM, G2, OXG
B tier: Soniqs, DR, ex-Soar, City Boys,

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