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This increases the chances of an off-season world cup .
So what will be your country's squad and how are they gonna place internationally ?
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archetype [#6]who's Vera?
Hes a 17 yo player . Guy is cracked and hella underrated
Currently still i would say Deryeon is the better jett
JiangLi [#7]Hes a 17 yo player . Guy is cracked and hella underrated
Currently still i would say Deryeon is the better jett
would be interesting to see SG.
off the top of my head I don't think they would be top 5 though
M3C/FPX (RUS)
C9 roster (USA)
DRX (KR)
ZETA DIVISION (JP)
EDG (CN)
LOUD/VK (BR)
LEV/KRU (LATAM)
feel like these teams would easily be above, especially because Jinggg doesn't have f0rsakeN or mindfreak
archetype [#8]would be interesting to see SG.
off the top of my head I don't think they would be top 5 though
M3C/FPX (RUS)
C9 roster (USA)
DRX (KR)
ZETA DIVISION (JP)
EDG (CN)
LOUD/VK (BR)
LEV/KRU (LATAM)feel like these teams would easily be above, especially because Jinggg doesn't have f0rsakeN or mindfreak
Chile, Canada, Turkey, and Indonesia would all also be better imo
archetype [#8]would be interesting to see SG.
off the top of my head I don't think they would be top 5 though
M3C/FPX (RUS)
C9 roster (USA)
DRX (KR)
ZETA DIVISION (JP)
EDG (CN)
LOUD/VK (BR)
LEV/KRU (LATAM)feel like these teams would easily be above, especially because Jinggg doesn't have f0rsakeN or mindfreak
Canada-Ayrin,Marved,Tenz,Moose,sm1 else
archetype [#8]would be interesting to see SG.
off the top of my head I don't think they would be top 5 though
M3C/FPX (RUS)
C9 roster (USA)
DRX (KR)
ZETA DIVISION (JP)
EDG (CN)
LOUD/VK (BR)
LEV/KRU (LATAM)feel like these teams would easily be above, especially because Jinggg doesn't have f0rsakeN or mindfreak
nephh is really really good and so is jayH . I think if such event actually happen sg can crack top 5 very well
Sprouts [#10]Chile, Canada, Turkey, and Indonesia would all also be better imo
chile and china are already included in the list, but yeah a Canadian roster (something like tenz, zander, marved, fns, mada, florescent/moose even) & Indonesian roster (f0rsaken, mindfreak, famouz, monyet, fl1pzjder) would be crazy
JiangLi [#13]nephh is really really good and so is jayH . I think if such event actually happen sg can crack top 5 very well
easily
very well
that's serious copium man. nephh and jayH are probably good but also they've never made it to an international event whereas all the teams I just named are comprised of players who have at the bare minimum qualified as either first seed or made it to playoffs OR won the event outright.
FlyingDoggoWoweeCIap7 [#19]Indonesia
Starting 5:
f0rsaken
Monyet
mindfreak
fl1pzjder
LmemoreSub:
tehbotol
Famouz
Kush
Nakya
blazek1ng
indonesia would be pretty stacked. imo they'd perform a lot better than JiangLi's SG roster...lol
archetype [#16]easily
very wellthat's serious copium man. nephh and jayH are probably good but also they've never made it to an international event whereas all the teams I just named are comprised of players who have at the bare minimum qualified as either first seed or made it to playoffs OR won the event outright.
thats being too result oriented . some rosters you mentioned are undoubtedly good but not everyone had good performance in international .
FlyingDoggoWoweeCIap7 [#19]Indonesia
Starting 5:
f0rsaken
Monyet
mindfreak
fl1pzjder
LmemoreSub:
tehbotol
Famouz
Kush
Nakya
blazek1ng
who will be the ID coach ?
archetype [#20]indonesia would be pretty stacked. imo they'd perform a lot better than JiangLi's SG roster...lol
ID has always been stacked . They have the most amount of T1 players in APAC so a lot to choose from but the roster i said is not rlly bad . You probably js dont know much about the players i mentioned
JiangLi [#21]thats being too result oriented . some rosters you mentioned are undoubtedly good but not everyone had good performance in international .
no way you tell me that SG roster u just named would beat
yay, xeppaaa, zellsis, vanity, leaf
shao, suygetsu, nats, redgar, purp0
rb, buzz, stax, zest, mako, foxy9
tennn, laz, sugarz3ro, dep, crow
zmjjkk, chichoo, smoggy, nobody, haodong
aspas, pancada, sacy, less, cauanzin
keznitDEUS, KiNggg, Tacolilla, Melser, Shyy
tenz, fns, marved, mada, zander
f0rsaken, monyet, mindfreak, lmemore, flipzjder
lol
JiangLi [#24]ID has always been stacked . They have the most amount of T1 players in APAC so a lot to choose from but the roster i said is not rlly bad . You probably js dont know much about the players i mentioned
Yeah, they're not bad. I never said they were. I'm just saying it is borderline delusional to think they would crack top 5
Nephh did not get any meaningful stats when he went 1-2 in playoffs (of which he qualified to only ONCE)
JayH is performing well on BLEED but he has never made it to playoffs in APAC VCT
Vera is probably the best player on that team not named Jinggg or Benkai
archetype [#25]no way you tell me that SG roster u just named would beat
yay, xeppaaa, zellsis, vanity, leaf
shao, suygetsu, nats, redgar, purp0
rb, buzz, stax, zest, mako, foxy9
tennn, laz, sugarz3ro, dep, crow
zmjjkk, chichoo, smoggy, nobody, haodong
aspas, pancada, sacy, less, cauanzin
keznitDEUS, KiNggg, Tacolilla, Melser, Shyy
tenz, fns, marved, mada, zander
f0rsaken, monyet, mindfreak, lmemore, flipzjderlol
i mean 5 of the teams you mentioned are proven teams . Rest is just a fantasy team like mine so that alr puts them in possible top 6
JiangLi [#27]i mean 5 of the teams you mentioned are proven teams . Rest is just a fantasy team like mine so that alr puts them in possible top 6
5 of the teams I mentioned are proven teams, so how does your fantasy roster made up of
1 person who never qualified to playoffs
1 person who qualified ONCE and didn't do much against middle-of-the-pack teams
1 insane star duelist and the best raze itw
1 proven IGL
1 guy who did pretty decently in playoffs
beat any one of those teams and make top 5 "easily"?
not to mention it's not 5. you cannot tell me LEV + Keznit and LOUD + cauanzin would lose to this SG team. They have literally replaced tier 1 talent with tier 1 talent, but your team has 3/5 tier 2 players.
The Canadian team has 3 Masters winners, the best IGL in the world, the best NA controller player, and the MVP of Masters Reykjavik
Indonesia has f0rsakeN, mindfreak, and an LCQ winning core.
archetype [#26]Yeah, they're not bad. I never said they were. I'm just saying it is borderline delusional to think they would crack top 5
Nephh did not get any meaningful stats when he went 1-2 in playoffs (of which he qualified to only ONCE)
JayH is performing well on BLEED but he has never made it to playoffs in APAC VCT
Vera is probably the best player on that team not named Jinggg or Benkai
Nephh puts up good stats on recent tournaments against team who made it to apac playoffs . An unknown quantity like Jingg . Remember Jing was on SMG before and had bad stats but its quite ez to tell which player is cracked
Also its impossible to make it to apac playoffs with PRX in it . This is MY/SG afterall
JiangLi [#29]Nephh puts up good stats on recent tournaments against team who made it to apac playoffs . An unknown quantity like Jingg . Remember Jing was on SMG before and had bad stats but its quite ez to tell which player is cracked
Also its impossible to make it to apac playoffs with PRX in it . This is MY/SG afterall
The difference is Jinggg was still putting up hella good numbers on SMG. Just like Yay on ANDBOX. The only player who's putting up even somewhat close performances is Vera. I don't think Nephh or JayH will stand up to any of the players I just mentioned up there.
archetype [#30]The difference is Jinggg was still putting up hella good numbers on SMG. Just like Yay on ANDBOX. The only player who's putting up even somewhat close performances is Vera. I don't think Nephh or JayH will stand up to any of the players I just mentioned up there.
The difference is Jinggg was still putting up hella good numbers on SMG. So is nephh lmao .
And no Jing was good on the team but not as massive difference like Yay on ABX
I don't think Nephh or JayH will stand up to any of the players I just mentioned up there.cant easily rule out the possibility
JiangLi [#31]The difference is Jinggg was still putting up hella good numbers on SMG.So is nephh lmao .
And no Jing was good on the team but not as massive difference like Yay on ABXI don't think Nephh or JayH will stand up to any of the players I just mentioned up there.cant easily rule out the possibility
https://www.vlr.gg/106445/onic-g-vs-gaimin-gladiators-champions-tour-asia-pacific-stage-2-challengers-playoffs-winners-a
https://www.vlr.gg/106447/gaimin-gladiators-vs-griffin-e-sports-champions-tour-asia-pacific-stage-2-challengers-playoffs-d
https://www.vlr.gg/89240/bearclaw-gaming-vs-laze-champions-tour-malaysia-singapore-stage-2-challengers-playoffs-ubsf
https://www.vlr.gg/89238/laze-vs-todak-champions-tour-malaysia-singapore-stage-2-challengers-playoffs-ur1
https://www.vlr.gg/89226/laze-vs-todak-champions-tour-malaysia-singapore-stage-2-challengers-group-stage-d6
he only performed well vs PRX during 2 series, which yeah means something, but he has had way more stinkers than actual popoff performances.
archetype [#32]https://www.vlr.gg/106445/onic-g-vs-gaimin-gladiators-champions-tour-asia-pacific-stage-2-challengers-playoffs-winners-a
https://www.vlr.gg/106447/gaimin-gladiators-vs-griffin-e-sports-champions-tour-asia-pacific-stage-2-challengers-playoffs-d
https://www.vlr.gg/89240/bearclaw-gaming-vs-laze-champions-tour-malaysia-singapore-stage-2-challengers-playoffs-ubsf
https://www.vlr.gg/89238/laze-vs-todak-champions-tour-malaysia-singapore-stage-2-challengers-playoffs-ur1
https://www.vlr.gg/89226/laze-vs-todak-champions-tour-malaysia-singapore-stage-2-challengers-group-stage-d6he only performed well vs PRX during 2 series, which yeah means something, but he has had way more stinkers than actual popoff performances.
ik these matches look carefully he used to play duelist on those . He isnt a duelist and role filled for his F/A team
Also i mention nephh js cuz he has been playing rlly well nowadays . He wasnt always this good
JiangLi [#33]ik these matches look carefully he used to play duelist on those . He isnt a duelist and role filled for his F/A team
Also i mention nephh js cuz he has been playing rlly well nowadays . He wasnt always this good
idk. i'm sure he's a good player but it's absolutely crazy to say SG would EASILY crack top 5 and win against the teams I just named. It's actually borderline delusional. You wouldn't even catch KROverlord saying this.
JiangLi [#3]SG --
Jing , Nephh , Vera , Benkai , JayH
Top 5 easily
JiangLi i love you but this is just delusional
this is for world cup not APAC VCT 💀
that roster at best top 11-13
archetype [#35]idk. i'm sure he's a good player but it's absolutely crazy to say SG would EASILY crack top 5 and win against the teams I just named. It's actually borderline delusional. You wouldn't even catch KROverlord saying this.
lol calm down man maybe top 5 was stretched a bit . Afterall im from SG HAHAHA . Going by the stats you mention they arent top 5 the proven teams are but i'd still put the sg team above the fantasy teams of other regions
JiangLi [#37]lol calm down man maybe top 5 was stretched a bit . Afterall im from SG HAHAHA . Going by the stats you mention they arent top 5 the proven teams are but i'd still put the sg team above the fantasy teams of other regions
maybe. we'll have to wait and see!
Ultimateattack [#40]wld take deryeon over vera atm
yeah deryeon is better rn but if it take place in 2023 maybe by then vera will be better HOPIUM
FlyingDoggoWoweeCIap7 [#38]TOP 5 (NOT IN ORDER)
USA
RUSSIA
CHILE
BRAZIL
CHINA/KOREA/INDONESIA
there are 5 countries in europe who'll do better than chile. finland lithuania poland uk(yes) sweden probably turkey and russia obv
symbols07 [#43]there are 5 countries in europe who'll do better than chile. finland lithuania poland uk(yes) sweden probably turkey and russia obv
Hell no, lmao Russia it’s already enough, name a single country national team in Europe better than Mazino, King, Tacolilla, Shy, Keznit
Mortadelo [#44]Hell no, lmao Russia it’s already enough, name a single country national team in Europe better than Mazino, King, Tacolilla, Shy, Keznit
Russia
Mbappe [#45]how would qualifiers even work
Probably a coach would be selected somehow out of volunteers or something and the he would do tryouts to build a team
Mortadelo [#49]Probably a coach would be selected somehow out of volunteers or something and the he would do tryouts to build a team
I mean who decides who qualifies to the WC, you can't just select some big countries
FlyingDoggoWoweeCIap7 [#19]Indonesia
Starting 5:
f0rsaken
Monyet
mindfreak
fl1pzjder
LmemoreSub:
tehbotol
Famouz
Kush
Nakya
blazek1ng
my wet dream
Mortadelo [#44]Hell no, lmao Russia it’s already enough, name a single country national team in Europe better than Mazino, King, Tacolilla, Shy, Keznit
jamppi, derke, bonecold, hoody, h1ber/polvi
cNed, alfajer, MrFalin, Brave, Muj
(this one isn't better but it's competitive)
nukkye, ceNder, hype, feqew, boo
Shownu [#59]UK
Boaster
Mistic
Aardis
Soulcas
LinkCoach: mini
role clash on boaster and link no? who would swap
hekzy [#58]jamppi, derke, bonecold, hoody, h1ber/polvi
cNed, alfajer, MrFalin, Brave, Muj(this one isn't better but it's competitive)
nukkye, ceNder, hype, feqew, boo
Did you really just compare MrFalin Brave and Muj, to the levitan players? in what world are they anywhere close. I’m sorry but that’s straight bias
Finland is good but hiber/polvi and Bonecold are a tier below all the rest of them
Mbappe [#55]I mean who decides who qualifies to the WC, you can't just select some big countries
Give every country a team and do regional qualifiers
FlyingDoggoWoweeCIap7 [#36]JiangLi i love you but this is just delusional
this is for world cup not APAC VCT 💀
that roster at best top 11-13
that is the best roster tho, only qn is wheres Deryeon
Mortadelo [#44]Hell no, lmao Russia it’s already enough, name a single country national team in Europe better than Mazino, King, Tacolilla, Shy, Keznit
finland jamppi derke bonecold hiber hoody
i dont remeber all players from lithuania but remember doing this before and they had a stacked team. from what i remember nukkye vakk destrian hype boo nbs coach(acend)
uk boaster mistic link soulcas ardiis benjyfishy (this has potential not neccesarily better)
Mortadelo [#64]Did you really just compare MrFalin Brave and Muj, to the levitan players? in what world are they anywhere close. I’m sorry but that’s straight bias
Finland is good but hiber/polvi and Bonecold are a tier below all the rest of them
only reason you rate bonecold low is coz he didnt play in t1 in 2022. he's champions winning igl, he definitely aint a tier below. sure you can rate him below rest of the team, but he isnt a liablity for that team
bonkashi [#63]role clash on boaster and link no? who would swap
link can play sentinel or secondary smoker/initiator
symbols07 [#70]only reason you rate bonecold low is coz he didnt play in t1 in 2022. he's champions winning igl, he definitely aint a tier below. sure you can rate him below rest of the team, but he isnt a liablity for that team
The only reason I rate him low is because of him being extremely inconsistent in tier 2 despite BaddyG being the IGL of Vitality during the second half of the year
bonkashi [#61]The UK would undoubtedly get shit on but here goes
Boaster - Smokes + IGL
Ardiis - Op (assuming he'd play for the uk and not latvia)
Soulcas - Flex Init
Mistic - Main Init
Kryptix - Sentinel
Mini - Head coach
Sliggy - Assistant coach
we hate on uk coz its uk, but theyll do decent. like reach playoffs
symbols07 [#69]finland jamppi derke bonecold hiber hoody
i dont remeber all players from lithuania but remember doing this before and they had a stacked team. from what i remember nukkye vakk destrian hype boo nbs coach(acend)
uk boaster mistic link soulcas ardiis benjyfishy (this has potential not neccesarily better)
Dude stop naming tier 2 players and comparing them to a playoffs team this champions. Lev literally comes from beating TL, are you saying Bonecold, hiber, hoody and Derke are better teamates for Jamppi than Scream, Nivera, Soulcas and Dimasick? Vakk and hype? Benjy fucking fishy dude are you hearing yourself
hekzy [#58]jamppi, derke, bonecold, hoody, h1ber/polvi
cNed, alfajer, MrFalin, Brave, Muj(this one isn't better but it's competitive)
nukkye, ceNder, hype, feqew, boo
XDD
LEV players >>> hoody h1ber polvi alfajer MrFaling Muj Cender hype feqew boo
FlyingDoggoWoweeCIap7 [#38]TOP 5 (NOT IN ORDER)
USA
RUSSIA
CHILE
BRAZIL
CHINA/KOREA/INDONESIA
bro canada is definitely better than the US lmao
Kr1zt [#75]XDD
LEV players >>> hoody h1ber polvi alfajer MrFaling Muj Cender hype feqew boo
Alfajer clears and has continuesly cleared all of LATAM. As for hoody, muj and mrfalin you'll have to wait and see Kickoff <3
Mortadelo [#64]Did you really just compare MrFalin Brave and Muj, to the levitan players? in what world are they anywhere close. I’m sorry but that’s straight bias
Finland is good but hiber/polvi and Bonecold are a tier below all the rest of them
Bonecold is one of the best IGLs in Europe right now.
Shy and mazino ain't impressive either.
hekzy [#82]Bonecold is one of the best IGLs in Europe right now.
Shy and mazino ain't impressive either.
Again, Bonecold hasn’t even IGLed for the past half of this year. How does that make him one of the best IGL’s in the Europe? Plus you’re comparing him to King who moved his team amazingly while he got the best stats in the entire champions
Mazino and Shy are world class flexes my friend, maybe if you’re not too much into the LATAM scene you haven’t seen em, but I can assure you they are. Mazino is probably like top 5 players in the entire South America Imo
FlyingDoggoWoweeCIap7 [#36]JiangLi i love you but this is just delusional
this is for world cup not APAC VCT 💀
that roster at best top 11-13
LMAO bro actually said top 5 easily
unknown_trash [#51]At least 3 smokes on this roster lol
aii I forgot abt some players,
FNS-igl/intiator
Marved-Smokes
Moose-Sentinel
Tenz-Duelist
Subroza-flex
ChromeDZN [#42]Sweden:
Sayf - operator
Leo - initiator
Zypaan - flex/entry
Meddo - controller/ sentinel
Bonkar/maxie - controller/flex
Pyth 6th man?
nutab1e [#80]canada clears
Marved
TenZ
eeiu
FNS
JonahPthere's a lot of different combos you could do
Russia still diffs hard
Nats
Redgar
Chronicle
Shao
Sheydos/suygetsu
Cloud
Shownu [#59]UK
Boaster
Mistic
Aardis
Soulcas
LinkCoach: mini
Im still confused about aardis nationality tho. He's latvian rght? He is just growing up in liverpool?
archetype [#28]5 of the teams I mentioned are proven teams, so how does your fantasy roster made up of
1 person who never qualified to playoffs
1 person who qualified ONCE and didn't do much against middle-of-the-pack teams
1 insane star duelist and the best raze itw
1 proven IGL
1 guy who did pretty decently in playoffsbeat any one of those teams and make top 5 "easily"?
not to mention it's not 5. you cannot tell me LEV + Keznit and LOUD + cauanzin would lose to this SG team. They have literally replaced tier 1 talent with tier 1 talent, but your team has 3/5 tier 2 players.
The Canadian team has 3 Masters winners, the best IGL in the world, the best NA controller player, and the MVP of Masters Reykjavik
Indonesia has f0rsakeN, mindfreak, and an LCQ winning core.
common archetype W
archetype [#28]5 of the teams I mentioned are proven teams, so how does your fantasy roster made up of
1 person who never qualified to playoffs
1 person who qualified ONCE and didn't do much against middle-of-the-pack teams
1 insane star duelist and the best raze itw
1 proven IGL
1 guy who did pretty decently in playoffsbeat any one of those teams and make top 5 "easily"?
not to mention it's not 5. you cannot tell me LEV + Keznit and LOUD + cauanzin would lose to this SG team. They have literally replaced tier 1 talent with tier 1 talent, but your team has 3/5 tier 2 players.
The Canadian team has 3 Masters winners, the best IGL in the world, the best NA controller player, and the MVP of Masters Reykjavik
Indonesia has f0rsakeN, mindfreak, and an LCQ winning core.
Big w for you bro from Indonesian
symbols07 [#69]finland jamppi derke bonecold hiber hoody
i dont remeber all players from lithuania but remember doing this before and they had a stacked team. from what i remember nukkye vakk destrian hype boo nbs coach(acend)
uk boaster mistic link soulcas ardiis benjyfishy (this has potential not neccesarily better)
❗❗❗ opinion alert opinion alert ❗❗❗
fun fact you are only allowed to believe things off of recent tournament results, because everyone knows what just happened will continue to happen for eternity
hekzy [#82]Bonecold is one of the best IGLs in Europe right now.
Shy and mazino ain't impressive either.
Bro he said mazino ain't impressive 💀💀💀
Marcusgeez [#93]Im still confused about aardis nationality tho. He's latvian rght? He is just growing up in liverpool?
Half English
archetype [#14]chile and china are already included in the list, but yeah a Canadian roster (something like tenz, zander, marved, fns, mada, florescent/moose even) & Indonesian roster (f0rsaken, mindfreak, famouz, monyet, fl1pzjder) would be crazy
ty for the praise but not me LOL
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