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TSM Fix for Franchising

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#1
WinterZ

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-Rossy (No Fragging Power, Bad Attitude)
-gMd (He isn’t what TSM needs rn imo)

+trent
+v1c

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ROLES:

Corey: Raze/Jett (Duelist + Entry)
seven: Chamber (Oper)
Subroza: Omen/Viper/Brimstone (Controller + IGL)
trent: Fade/Sova/Skye (Initiator)
v1c: Skye/Breach/Sage/KAY/O (Support)

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MAP COMPS:

Pearl:

Raze (Corey)
Chamber (seven)
Viper (Subroza)
Sova (Trent)
Sage (v1c)

Fracture:

Raze (Corey)
Chamber (seven)
Brimstone (Subroza)
Fade (trent)
KAY/O (v1c)

Breeze:

Jett (Corey)
Chamber (seven)
Viper (Subroza)
Sova (trent)
KAY/O (v1c)

Icebox:

Raze (Corey)
Chamber (seven)
Viper (Subroza)
Fade (trent)
Sage (v1c)

Ascent:

Raze (Corey)
Chamber (seven)
Omen (Subroza)
Fade (trent)
KAY/O (v1c)

Bind:

Raze (Corey)
Chamber (seven)
Brimstone (Subroza)
Fade (trent)
Skye (v1c)

Haven:

Jett (Corey)
Chamber (seven)
Omen (Subroza)
Skye (trent)
Breach (v1c)

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Please make sure to comment down below if you’re reading this and give feedback, it really helps me to improve for when I do this in the future. Rate the roster out of 10 if you want, no this is jot bait and have a great rest of your day :)

#2
Hsnapn
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??

#3
WinterZ
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Hsnapn [#2]

??

Wdym by that?

#4
cyk
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drop all and rebuild

#5
WinterZ
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cyk [#4]

drop all and rebuild

Thats an interesting idea… Who would you rebuild with? (genuinely curious)

#6
chauste
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drop everyone except subroza

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deadSQUAD
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corey
cryo
trent
roza
valyn

#8
Aartanis
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WinterZ [#5]

Thats an interesting idea… Who would you rebuild with? (genuinely curious)

corey and 7 are solid

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Aartanis
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wardell
subroza
cutler
hazed
drone

#10
Excaliburn
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Aartanis [#9]

wardell
subroza
cutler
hazed
drone

The true answer

#11
WinterZ
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Aartanis [#9]

wardell
subroza
cutler
hazed
drone

based asf

#12
Sprouts
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I wouldn’t bet on Trent leaving TGrd unless they don’t make franchising but v1c would be a great pick up

#13
WinterZ
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Aartanis [#8]

corey and 7 are solid

agreed. Thats why I asked who he'd rebuild with

#14
WinterZ
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deadSQUAD [#7]

corey
cryo
trent
roza
valyn

honestly a fat W.

#15
WinterZ
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Sprouts [#12]

I wouldn’t bet on Trent leaving TGrd unless they don’t make franchising but v1c would be a great pick up

tbh ion like the Guard's chances of making franchising. Even if they did TSM probably can afford trent's buyout anyways. Thanks for the compliment on v1c tho. Hes underrated imo

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Stax_rb_op
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V1c that good??
There are better players no??

#17
WinterZ
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Stax_rb_op [#16]

V1c that good??
There are better players no??

he has played vs Tier 1 to tier 1.5 teams before and put up good numbers plus hes really killing it in T2 scene so yeah I think he's quite good

#18
NG1nS
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this team has no salvation i'm sorry

#19
Stax_rb_op
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WinterZ [#17]

he has played vs Tier 1 to tier 1.5 teams before and put up good numbers plus hes really killing it in T2 scene so yeah I think he's quite good

Hmm

#20
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NG1nS [#18]

this team has no salvation i'm sorry

the roster or the org?

#21
WinterZ
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Stax_rb_op [#19]

Hmm

you can check his stats if u want to

#22
Stax_rb_op
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WinterZ [#20]

the roster or the org?

But Grd is getting a franchising slot no??

#23
xLeo
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W efforts my broo 😎

#24
WinterZ
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Stax_rb_op [#22]

But Grd is getting a franchising slot no??

ion think so tbh. even if they do TSM can probably buy trent out from them

#25
WinterZ
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xLeo [#23]

W efforts my broo 😎

tysm habibi

#26
xLeo
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WinterZ [#25]

tysm habibi

😳 حبيبي

#27
PrinceCharming
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WinterZ [#24]

ion think so tbh. even if they do TSM can probably buy trent out from them

Even if they could afford Trent I find it unlikely he would leave the guard given they've shown they're an org willing to invest (as seen across multiple titles) and arguably have a much better winning formula

#28
WinterZ
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xLeo [#26]

😳 حبيبي

UwU نعم

#29
Heineck
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I honestly think they should stay together

#30
Heineck
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Aartanis [#9]

wardell
subroza
cutler
hazed
drone

Sadge

#31
deathlyclaws
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-subroza +skuba

#32
ATLASSTYX
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i just want to see them fail :)

#33
WinterZ
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ATLASSTYX [#32]

i just want to see them fail :)

and why is that exactly?

#34
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deathlyclaws [#31]

-subroza +skuba

who'd igl the roster tho?

#35
WinterZ
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PrinceCharming [#27]

Even if they could afford Trent I find it unlikely he would leave the guard given they've shown they're an org willing to invest (as seen across multiple titles) and arguably have a much better winning formula

i mean if TSM can afford his contract then dont TGRD have to give him up?

#36
deathlyclaws
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WinterZ [#34]

who'd igl the roster tho?

I forgot that lol maybe Trent

#37
NG1nS
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WinterZ [#20]

the roster or the org?

roster

#38
NG1nS
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WinterZ [#28]

UwU نعم

تاسل はやwptjü'čž

#39
DaDoar
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I would suggest Ange instead of v1c ngl, he has been a great player on darkzero and now dark ratio while playing really sacrificial roles, really like him as a player on those smokes agents, I also doubt trent is leaving TGRD unless they dont make franchising(i doubt, they got a lot fo money behind the org), so I would say that Jovanhi from ex-Akrew deserves a shot at tier 1, I really liked him in the recent games they have been playing

#40
RiotGunBuddy
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imagine still caring about shitty tsm lmao! dude, they are done af and nothing can fix this crap org anymore! they are a shitty t3 org that keep signs shitty tier 2-3 players and thinks all they have to do is paying a lot... and ofc, they got 200M Dollaz for being shit from something shitty called FTX lmao

#41
minte
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WinterZ [#21]

you can check his stats if u want to

STATS

#42
WinterZ
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DaDoar [#39]

I would suggest Ange instead of v1c ngl, he has been a great player on darkzero and now dark ratio while playing really sacrificial roles, really like him as a player on those smokes agents, I also doubt trent is leaving TGRD unless they dont make franchising(i doubt, they got a lot fo money behind the org), so I would say that Jovanhi from ex-Akrew deserves a shot at tier 1, I really liked him in the recent games they have been playing

Ange is a great smoker. He doesn't really play the roles I assigned v1c tho so idk how that would work out. It'd be harder to fit him in the roster than v1c imo.

#43
AceGX
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Trent is coming to c9

#44
WinterZ
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NG1nS [#37]

roster

why tho?

#45
WinterZ
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AceGX [#43]

Trent is coming to c9

maybe...

#46
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Problem is that the Guard likely get a franchising spot. Team is good, has a huge financial org backing, has a decent viewership. we're looking at like 6-7 NA team slots for the Americas and even if they dont make it as an org that roster likely won't break up. So including Trent while it is your hypothetical i dont find to be realistic.

#47
WinterZ
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MerkFreeks [#46]

Problem is that the Guard likely get a franchising spot. Team is good, has a huge financial org backing, has a decent viewership. we're looking at like 6-7 NA team slots for the Americas and even if they dont make it as an org that roster likely won't break up. So including Trent while it is your hypothetical i dont find to be realistic.

tbh I think that TGRD wont get franchised. Imo trent has a lot of incentive to join a big org like TSM

#48
vlr-demon
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WinterZ [#15]

tbh ion like the Guard's chances of making franchising. Even if they did TSM probably can afford trent's buyout anyways. Thanks for the compliment on v1c tho. Hes underrated imo

tgrd is in the top 5 most financially backed orgs in valorant rn (big mobile brand I forget which). also the org has franchising experience with their overwatch team. + actually being top 1 NA team previously, I think they are looking good

#49
Kimchii
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WinterZ [#35]

i mean if TSM can afford his contract then dont TGRD have to give him up?

if the players wants to leave, yes

#50
Mortadelo
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Who IGL's in TSM right now? Cause as far as I know all Subroza, gmd and Rossy are or have been IGL right?

#51
DaDoar
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WinterZ [#42]

Ange is a great smoker. He doesn't really play the roles I assigned v1c tho so idk how that would work out. It'd be harder to fit him in the roster than v1c imo.

i think he should just take up gMd roles, I perfer subroza on flash agents, he looks way more comfortable than playing controllers

#52
WinterZ
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Mortadelo [#50]

Who IGL's in TSM right now? Cause as far as I know all Subroza, gmd and Rossy are or have been IGL right?

Currently its Subroza :)

#53
WinterZ
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DaDoar [#51]

i think he should just take up gMd roles, I perfer subroza on flash agents, he looks way more comfortable than playing controllers

yeah but historically controllers have been the best agents to IGL on and controllers is something Subroza can do quite well on for an IGL

#54
DaDoar
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WinterZ [#53]

yeah but historically controllers have been the best agents to IGL on and controllers is something Subroza can do quite well on for an IGL

IGLs play whatever they want, screaM igls on raze, Saadhaak IGLs on Kay/0, FNS igld on chyper and KJ for a long time, zest igls on sova/fade, I think comfort is way better than an ideal role igls should play, also there's an uptick in star controller players, like Mako, Sugarz3ro, Marved, nAts in the worlds top teams

#55
WinterZ
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DaDoar [#54]

IGLs play whatever they want, screaM igls on raze, Saadhaak IGLs on Kay/0, FNS igld on chyper and KJ for a long time, zest igls on sova/fade, I think comfort is way better than an ideal role igls should play, also there's an uptick in star controller players, like Mako, Sugarz3ro, Marved, nAts in the worlds top teams

Omen and the other controllers were Subroza's historically most played agents. IMO he looks more comfortable on Omen than he does on Skye or Breach. But thats just my opinion :)

#56
Ultimateattack
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is v1c a flex player or smth? he seems to like play so many diff agents and gd stats across most

#57
trola
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Aartanis [#9]

wardell
subroza
cutler
hazed
drone

good ol days for the fan

#58
trola
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i kinda forgot TSM has an auto spot lol hopefully they rebuild the team so their result isnt gonna dissapoint

#59
WinterZ
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Ultimateattack [#56]

is v1c a flex player or smth? he seems to like play so many diff agents and gd stats across most

yup. He said he's comfortable on almost all initiators and controllers

#60
w0v
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Ngl, gMd isn't that bad, you don't have to replace him

#61
WinterZ
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trola [#58]

i kinda forgot TSM has an auto spot lol hopefully they rebuild the team so their result isnt gonna dissapoint

same. I hope all franchised teams make good roster changes :)

#62
WinterZ
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w0v [#60]

Ngl, gMd isn't that bad, you don't have to replace him

Dont get me wrong, he's very good. He just isnt what TSM needs. Subroza is a smokes main and so is gMd. One of them would have to go and I chose gMd.

#63
Tsuna
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I like some the changes but the main issue I see is if chamber gets another nerf and other sentinels become meta they won’t have any actual sentinel mains

#64
MerkFreeks
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WinterZ [#47]

tbh I think that TGRD wont get franchised. Imo trent has a lot of incentive to join a big org like TSM

if TGRD doesnt make franchising why would the team break up, Tier 2 has been established and that roster put in alot of work and could easily get into the league through promotion as they'd be one of the better teams there.

TSM might not even make franchising either. That much has not been confirmed yet.

#65
nutab1e
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you are fucking smoking if you think they should remove gmd

#66
VAL_OMEGALUL_RANT
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chauste [#6]

drop everyone except subroza

content creator

#67
WinterZ
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Tsuna [#63]

I like some the changes but the main issue I see is if chamber gets another nerf and other sentinels become meta they won’t have any actual sentinel mains

Good point… I’ll see what I can do to fix that for future rosters

#68
100TBoeJiden
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stewie2k
shanks
PROD
sinatraa
Tarik

#69
espeon
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im pre sure gMd is there to igl attack while roza igls def? i forgot which side they both igl on, but i think removing gMd puts a big strain on the team, which obviously isn't good at all for the team, but that coordination both roza and gMd have is pretty important to me.

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AlphaSahara
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My choice:
Zekken(entry)
Cryo(op)
Zander(igl+smokes)
Sick(if he gets dropped. Honestly a God tier flex) or subroza(flex/initiator)
And any sentinels main(maybe bcj?)

#71
WinterZ
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espeon [#69]

im pre sure gMd is there to igl attack while roza igls def? i forgot which side they both igl on, but i think removing gMd puts a big strain on the team, which obviously isn't good at all for the team, but that coordination both roza and gMd have is pretty important to me.

I didnt know that. I thought Subroza IGL'd both sides. Maybe in that case TSM could move Subroza to content creation and pick up zander as an IGL?

#72
WinterZ
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100TBoeJiden [#68]

stewie2k
shanks
PROD
sinatraa
Tarik

Bold idea... What would the roles look like, Who'd be IGL?

#73
WinterZ
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AlphaSahara [#70]

My choice:
Zekken(entry)
Cryo(op)
Zander(igl+smokes)
Sick(if he gets dropped. Honestly a God tier flex) or subroza(flex/initiator)
And any sentinels main(maybe bcj?)

there aren't many dedicated sentinel main in NA Tier 1/2 val atm. I'd say go with a talented support/initiator player like brawk or johnqt

#74
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WinterZ [#71]

I didnt know that. I thought Subroza IGL'd both sides. Maybe in that case TSM could move Subroza to content creation and pick up zander as an IGL?

would gMd be a better igl than roza? from numbers alone, he does put up rly good numbers, plus they both have a lot of experience anyways, im torn cuz i wanna see tsm and more specifically roza succeed so lol

#75
twistedkaijuu07
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Tsuna [#63]

I like some the changes but the main issue I see is if chamber gets another nerf and other sentinels become meta they won’t have any actual sentinel mains

Rossy can pretty much play all the Sentinel agents, GMD stays on smokes and Subroza plays the main initiator role with Fade and Breach

#76
WinterZ
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espeon [#74]

would gMd be a better igl than roza? from numbers alone, he does put up rly good numbers, plus they both have a lot of experience anyways, im torn cuz i wanna see tsm and more specifically roza succeed so lol

Idk abt IGLing skill but statistically Subroza has been a historically better smoker then gMd plus he’s a capable IGL.

#77
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WinterZ [#76]

Idk abt IGLing skill but statistically Subroza has been a historically better smoker then gMd plus he’s a capable IGL.

then why move roza to content creation if, stats wise, he's better than gMd? zander is a very good player, but i think finding a better initiator would probably be more of the move (?)

#78
Eag1e
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TSM should hire you

#79
WinterZ
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espeon [#77]

then why move roza to content creation if, stats wise, he's better than gMd? zander is a very good player, but i think finding a better initiator would probably be more of the move (?)

cuz zander can IGL on attack and defense, he does it better than subroza and he puts up similar numbers to him

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WinterZ
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Eag1e [#78]

TSM should hire you

thanks dude :)

#81
Perma
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Drop val roster and stick to apex

#82
pig7128423
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whats wrong with gmd? cant play viper?

#83
burritx
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Stopped reading at trent

#84
WinterZ
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pig7128423 [#82]

whats wrong with gmd? cant play viper?

nothings wrong with him. Roles just wouldn't make sense with 2 talented smokes players/igl's on the team. One of them wouldn't be very comfortable and I wanted to eliminate that possibility.

#85
pig7128423
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WinterZ [#84]

nothings wrong with him. Roles just wouldn't make sense with 2 talented smokes players/igl's on the team. One of them wouldn't be very comfortable and I wanted to eliminate that possibility.

imo subroza isnt truly a smokes player, he's way too agressive to not play some initiator

#86
WinterZ
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pig7128423 [#85]

imo subroza isnt truly a smokes player, he's way too agressive to not play some initiator

his top 5 most played agents of all time are 60% controllers. Plus his form on initiator has seemed a little questionable tbh as of recently. He has more impact on smokes imo

#87
unknown_trash
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vlr-demon [#48]

tgrd is in the top 5 most financially backed orgs in valorant rn (big mobile brand I forget which). also the org has franchising experience with their overwatch team. + actually being top 1 NA team previously, I think they are looking good

Plus willingness to create content (PROD as a cc for a bit)

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WinterZ [#33]

and why is that exactly?

Hater

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