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No bad team at Champions

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#1
doosean

Here is a quick reminder for y'all.

I like seeing people evaluate and try to predict the outcome of the Champions even tho it boils down to biased takes and wishes from fans. But do not overdo it with region slander and toxicity directed towards certain teams. Keep banter and troll tamed to some extent. I know a team like OPTIC beats Boom Esports probably 8 out of 10 times, but in the end, it all boils down to fine margins and the current momentum. Do not be shocked if we see another Cinderella story emerge out of the final stage of Champions, because...

ALL TEAMS THAT QUALIFIED ARE S TIER TEAMS.

These are the best of the best right now, filtered through multiple regions. [To be fair, filtered with less than 100% precision, as we have some more S tier teams missing].
With that being said, here is my attempt of a tier list, featuring teams that qualified for Champions.

SS+ tier [Probable winners]: FunPlus Phoenix; Paper Rex;
SS tier [Strong contenders]: FNATIC; OPTIC Gaming;
S+ tier [Borderline contenders]: 100Thieves; Team Liquid; DRX; Leviatan; LOUD;
S tier [Upset potential]: XSET; EDward Gaming; KRU Esports;
S- tier [Cinderella run potential]: ZETA Division; FURIA; Boom Esports; Xerixia

Feel free to critique and give your own thoughts and hot takes down below.

#2
RnJn
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Anyone can win with how good the teams are, if edg wins I won't be surprised. I'll only be surprised if team liquid is the best eu team in the tournament, that's impossible.

#6
doosean
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Team Liquid is a momentum-based team with a LOT of raw firepower.
In essence, you have 5 players who can flip the course of a round and the course of a match in a matter of seconds. If they are getting the outcome they desire with their strats, they can beat anyone, which people often forget.

The least likely scenario is them being the best placed team from EMEA. It is far from impossible tho.

#63
chimpy
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I would say they are also a team that is likely to be shut out

#3
bambamskrrt
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momentum is so crucial in this game, teams can slipped 1 round only and they're fucked. its anyone game tbh.

#9
doosean
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EXACTLY.
It is almost a butterfly effect where even one slip up in round2 can spiral out of control and show its effects in the later rounds.

#4
Primion
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EDG is not S tier
put it on SS+ tier

#7
doosean
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TBH, I wanted to place them higher up. I just haven't seen them on the international stage and against teams that have a very specific or unorthodox style of gameplay. But just seeing how well coordinated and structured they are, I can see team causing ruckus on the stage, no doubt.

#8
iric222
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edg is not confirmed in LAN

#10
Primion
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champion confirmed ^_^

#11
iric222
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I mean their true skill is not confirmed.
They can be a new rising star or just a bunch of onliners like Full Sense did.

#15
Primion
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apac is not same like east asia lol

#17
iric222
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How cant it be same?
EDG have never played LAN before

#66
texraupen
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We don't know that for sure tbh.
Maybe there were some local chinese LANs that we just never heard of.

#67
philion
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enough with the EDG dickridin plz, we'll find out what they're made of in 3 weeks

#5
DrudaL
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BOOM BOOM BOOM

#13
FrostTree187
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BOOM BOOM BOOM

#52
nutab1e
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I want you in my room!

#12
camosoulja
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It's offensive to call FURIA S tier

#19
doosean
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ALL TEAMS THAT QUALIFIED ARE S TIER TEAMS.

These are the best of the best right now, filtered through multiple regions.

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#16
Dybala21
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W take

#18
Barre
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Every single NA team legit shits on Furia

#20
doosean
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 I know a team like OPTIC beats Boom Esports probably 8 out of 10 times, but in the end, it all boils down to fine margins and the current momentum. Do not be shocked if we see another Cinderella story emerge out of the final stage of Champions, because...

ALL TEAMS THAT QUALIFIED ARE S TIER TEAMS.
#21
mrGoudas
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and every emea team shits on 100t, your point?

#23
Number1DubstePFan
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fact: 100T never lost to an EMEA during Master's Berlin. They beat both Acend and Gambit. They lost to NV tho.

#30
mrGoudas
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current fpx m3c fnatic and maybe tl destroy 100t

#35
Mapusaurus
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100T also have only 1 player remaining from that run

#68
Gre4t
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I love how this is based on nothing but vibes.

#22
NG1nS
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the only ranking i agree with

#46
ZPEmE
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bro everytime i see u in a new thread u have a new flag and flair

#56
NG1nS
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i'm jose Mourinho

#24
cyk
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i doubt xset

#25
BattleCry
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EDG is just one LAN wonders like F4Q, it's about time until team figure out them and edg will fall.

#32
jimjam789
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f4q wasnt good lmao, they werent even the 2nd best korean team when they qualed for berlin

#45
Asphyxia
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Nah their fundamentals are just stellar, I don't think there's a way to beat raw fundamentals unless u do something crazy like drx or prx

#71
Adi69LassiSeller
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Better than India's whole career 🤡☠️

#26
BattleCry
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You all guys clearly forget xirxia. The best of APAC. If I have any home from APAC other than prx it's only xirxia. Boom eSports won't be winning any series.

#36
Jaox-101
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No! i think GLOBAL ESPORT Better ThAn Any OtHer Team oN APacE. They DeSERve BOOM slOT For FuN maATCH nO CAP

#64
No1AsunaFannn
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Stop embarrassing yourself

#69
Adi69LassiSeller
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Tbh skrossi solos botserx and ppjder. Boom just got lucky that they didn't face any Indian teams & skrossi or else we would've shoved our hot Indian spicy thingy into bani bani's wkwkwk and make him a bunny

#70
wolkSy_vlrt
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do you think GE can beat BOOM?? fcking delusional

#72
Adi69LassiSeller
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Chill I'm Just "jokey jokey" obviously baiting

#27
Tyzehhxo
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I think XSET CAN have upset potential it's more a less do they do it? If they play how they did at Masters then no. I don't mean to slander XSET but I just think back to that Masters run and it was literally Cryo and Zekken doing INSANE plays to keep the scores level against Leviatan. I think Dephh as an IGL really struggled to get reads on teams and what they were doing especially against OpTiC, that was a clear IGL diff. Lets see come Champs time though, maybe they can prove us all wrong and beat teams we wouldn't pick them to beat.

#28
no_noise_979
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i dont think you understand tier list

Difference between SS+ and S is like the same between S and B. You only just renamed it all which is stupid.

Putting a team in B doesnt mean theyre outright bad.

#39
doosean
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And you absolutely missed the point of why it is purposefully renamed like that.

#55
no_noise_979
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i didnt miss the point, you are saying every team is great but it doesnt matter because everyones idea of tiers is different

just because someone puts a team in like a B tier doesnt mean they think its bad just worse than other teams and you even proved it by making your own tier list and just renamed them

if you think i missed the point then explain it lol

#29
screetox
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you forgot to include xerxia in your ranking man

#31
jwise
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sadge :(

#38
doosean
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edited, i accidentally deleted it when i was repositioning some teams

#33
youngblood
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with not team winning back to back events I'm expecting a new face to win champs, with valorant being such a momentum based game you really cant predict who'll win

#42
doosean
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True indeed, one can only speculate.

#34
akproxx1
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Nah
U will never have the best team playing when your quals are online
And not only online but unfair ping differences

#37
indi_getrektson
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I find it weird Zeta is put on the cinderella list, they were proven to be top contenders from their last run. Tho without TeNN anything might have happened to the team.

#40
doosean
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I was not 100% sure about where to place them. TeNN is a loss, sure, but they probably worked around his absence already. I was just not convinced enough, seeing them kinda crumble during stage 2, yk

#43
Mortadelo
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I think you did right

#41
Mortadelo
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I actually really agree with the tier list good job

#44
hazard25
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what makes you think boom, xerxia and zeta are S- and 100t and LILquid are S+ ?????????????????????????????????????

#47
geometrix
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Hello doosean, good list. BTW, FPX is spelled Phoenix, not Pheonix. Understandably a confusing word.

#48
doosean
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Thanks for pointing out, it was a typographical error

#49
geometrix
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no problemo king. have a good rest of your day

#50
remedyzx
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No shot DRX is on the same level as 100t and LOUD. 100T and LOUD actually have a chance to win DRX will choke like they always do.

#53
Shidoh
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OpTiC and LOUD are the same level. plus: LOUD destroyed DRX on scrims tho no official match happened.

#60
dejikke
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vks was really strong on scrims back in iceland 2021, scrims don't mean that much

#51
X_ae_A_12
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No m3c is a crime on riots part

#54
trembolonaRage
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Levithan on S+

Delusional

#57
Yogod
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I've study this champions a lot 2 say:
Loud and Furia: Loss to Kru
Leviathan will win EMEA and NA shit region
So, Leviathan and Kru in the finals
Leviatán 3x2 KRU

#58
matiasqnt
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I just hope it's like the last master or even better

#61
Mjtchell
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EDG deserves a tier of its own called "S?" since its hard to rate them against anyone

#62
doosean
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Its not hard to rate them, they're fucking amazing lol
But to be fair, they got kicked a spot or two down rn, because they don't have international LAN experience and probably haven't faced juggernauts like FPX yet.

#65
_necromancer_
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Tbh, boom esports being underrated they may show us surprise and make huge upsets, fpx and prx being the teams on which most of the other teams would work on counter strat them

#73
SnooTangerines
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Edit: VLR bug why has my post gotten down here :(

#74
Seulgi
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OPTIC beats Boom Esports probably 8 out of 10 times, but in the end, it all boils down to fine margins and the current momentum.

Boy guess what.

#75
doosean
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LMAO no way
I just cursed OPTIC 100%

#76
Ryuzaki
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Furia.

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