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Franchising and Luminosity

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#1
babysasuke

Stop pretending anyone here cared about Luminosity before they announced that they were disbanding.

Franchising is going to give the orgs involved the ability to really build rosters and sign players and built up aspiring talent without worrying that one bad game is going to cost them 6 months of not playing at all.

It worked well in LoL, players are going to be making more money, and the ecosystem is going to stabilize.

Or keep crying typical VLR users.

#2
Trykan
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I think the main concern for everyone is seeing what RITO does with the T2 scene. Especially given the downfall of NA CS due to the lack support when competing.

This hinders growth and competition of Valorant as a whole

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They arent doing anything at all with the T2 scene now? Its all NSG and Knights

Worst case scenario: Riot does nothing and players not signed to orgs in VCT continue to play Micky Mouse tournaments as they always have
Best case scenario: Riot implements an Academy League like in LoL

#22
emirlol
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currently any team that regulars the Mickey Mouse tourneys can turn a cinderella story and qualify for the big LANs (not exactly the Guard storyline, but you get what I mean) in VCT. Franchising completely kills any chances of orgless/shit org teams from ever entering T1 competition where the big bucks and publicity are. The most they can hope for is keep grinding T2 until they picked up by a franchise team but the idea of that seems so boring.

#24
iSlasher
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franchising just means that the t2 orgs basically act as a proving grounds type of deal. In LoL, Riot has Proving Grounds and LCS Academy for exactly that reason. with franchising, the players get more job stability, better income, more consistent tournaments/travel/practice, etc.

#15
Shownu
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Riot doesn't develop CS, thats Valve. Only real comparison is with League.

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jackb2016
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Franchising is bad i don't care what you reply, advocating for franchising like they have in LoL will most likely kill the Tier 2 and beyond scene, not good for the game. LoL has survived because of its massive fanbase, which cannot be said for valorant at the moment.

#17
NightBeam
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LoL survived coz their competition is a overly complicated game + they spreaded the fanbase with a good marketing.
Valo entered in a competition against a 10 year game that is simpler for new people to understand whats happening and is rooted in esports culture.

If they fuck with tier 2 and tier 3, a lot of players won't be able to see an accessible way to become a pro and be world champion someday.
This is the perfect oportunity for Valve to give the endorsement to ESL/BLAST/DH/PGL/ESEA/Faceit/Etc... create a well structure open t2/t3 league and steal back their NA players

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jackb2016
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thank you

#4
nutab1e
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actually talented team like luminosity can't compete viably so that orgs like faze and tsm can sit on paycheck stealers for even longer than they already have

#6
Darkzeccos
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TSM and FAZE are way worse then LG and their games aren't the most fun to watch

#29
gweees
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Money talks sadly and you just named two of the teams that bring the most fans/viewerbase

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Olofboost
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What if the franchised org decides to save some funds and keeps with same old garbage roster, instead of signing better but less marketable players?

Let's say Sentinels get a slot and they just keep going without roster changes, there will be NA teams with better squads who were forced to be in tier2

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babysasuke
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Part of franchising is that you can be forced to sell if you are too bad for too long, the orgs involved have to at least be competitive to retain their spot.

#11
Olofboost
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Another thing is that Valorant skill ceiling is very low compared to other games

You can literally build 15 teams all over North America (with 75 talents), all of whom gonna perform on more or less equal level

But only 6-7 teams get into Americas superleague with the chance of going to international tournaments?

#14
babysasuke
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Weird argument.

If you really think all of the players and teams are doing the same thing, and at the highest level theres no difference, then why watch it at all?

What Riot does best is keep games evolving, for better or for worse. Even if every players movement and aim was exactly the same, there are always new strategies/agents/maps to pick up and then it would be about who comes up with the best read on the meta the quickest, and who can execute it.

#16
Olofboost
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I think you didn't get it

There's just too much talent in the scene to have only 5-6 slots for North America for example
This talent is equal, some players are indeed better, but overall they're equal
Way too few vacancies in these prestige organizations

This doesn't happen in LoL because that game requires way more skill to "peak" and stand out

#9
Big_Floppa
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I think they should keep it half and half that would work best imo

#10
babysasuke
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what does this mean

#12
BBL_Wtcn
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Half of the teams win a spot from franchising the other half earns in through qualifications similar to the system in Emea challengers now

#13
775kar
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are they gonna play in challengers

#18
PoohShiesty
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Franchising = boring af
no more underdog stories and it will kill T2.

This is why VALVE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RIOT

#23
emirlol
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CS doesn't have franchising but it's T2 scene has been dead for years lmfao

#26
PoohShiesty
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Literally not even true. There's endless upcoming players in CS.
Just look at the EU major qualifiers, they don't have enough slots for the amount of good teams.

#31
mauge67
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no?,what did you think or hear to come to this conclusion

#33
Marshal_D_Teach
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Broky came from Epsilon (tier 5 team) to faze and he is a major winner

#19
Lanss
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I don’t know much about lol so I fact-check me if I am wrong , but In lol, NA, Brazil, and LATAM are split into three regions with NA and Brazil having 10 franchised spots each and latam has 8. That’s a total of 28 franchised spots. Right now, if sources are true, we are looking at around 10 franchised teams FOR ALL THREE REGIONS. I don’t really know what it exactly entails, but comparing lol and valorant is stupid.

#20
mystbz1
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:c

#21
AltonBu02
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I cared ... :(

#25
Johndrocketfella
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same

#27
GlitchX
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:(

#28
anticemyt
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I actually unironically liked LG. I

#32
Marshal_D_Teach
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sasuke fan at its finest

#34
babysasuke
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thanks for your input brother

#35
Marshal_D_Teach
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you're welcome, my fellow narutard

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