Mate you should'nt be talking right now im trying to explain what i meant when i said they were "underperfoming".

you dodged my main point again.Just because KC and TH qualified doesnt mean they're EMEAs best, when you had teams like NAVI maybe FUT too who could've qualified too.And TH got shit on by vitality and same thing with KC by the hands of fut.Even DRX in pacific and NRG in NA could've had the potential to qualify
Eight teams is jsut too small of a number to call a 4th place finish good imo esp with two chinese slots there

IM NOT SAYING LOUD IS BAD BUT THEY'RE NOT PLAYING LIKE THEY WERE BEFORE.THATS WHAT I MEANT BY THEIR UNDERPERFORMING

You're not even replying to my main point.The reason they came so far was because of the formatting of the tournament.Only credible win i can see is sen but you cant guage anything from a first time matchup since they got beat later. They got fuckin EG in the playoffs while NRG had to play sen......

Coming to Madrid, Two of the teams were chinese and two of the eu teams were playing from inexperience....4th place would mean more if they did it at shanghai than madrid

kickoff results dont mean shit they got doggystyled by sen later on.And they got 4th in a tournament that had only 8 teams by the way, two of which are china which are literally free wins(unless ur paper rex who likes to throw)

Again, what i meant by them underperforming was that they're not at their level anymore i dont think they'll even make top 4 in shanghai

LOUD placed 4th in a double elimination format, where winning/losing one game doesnt guarantee that ur elimination and that they get an oppurtunity to do better next time.They fumbled against GENG, and again against a "jingless" paper rex . If this was the kickoff format GenG would've won am i right??

My point still stands though, aspas would've gotten much better results probably compete with geng and sen for the trophy but sadly i dont think their in contention for championship AS OF NOW(opinions probably will change by the end of season)

underperforming is a relative term my guy.When I meant LOUD underperforming, i meant that they're still not at the level they are supposed to be rn.I doubt LOUD would be even top 5/6 in shanghai ngl

PS :LOUD already has this standard to be maintaining ever since 2022. Remember when fnatic got shit on by heretics last week and the whole fanbase went "Fnatic's finished" etc.Thats because they're expected to perform better given their last yr performance

nah, u shouldnt be using kickoffs as a metric since LOUD didnt face every other team in the season .The tournament being single elim didnt help either.....and when they finally faced NRG they got humbled.

they placed 4th out of EIGHT TEAMS lil bro, and this is fucking LOUD we're talking about.We're used to seeing them get top 3 every tournament dont act like qck wasnt a huge downgrade from aspas

ngl bleed could clear most of the chinese teams probably become top 3 in the region

bait used to be believable

nah, at least he'd do better than assdiss last yr

I dont think yay being a sentinel is a bad thing.Listen, the chamber meta has been long gone and the only type of agents that would suit the calm and precise playstyle of yay are sentinels...I simply dont get the reasoning behind putting him on raze or even SKYE for that matter his playstyle is just not suited for those agents

I think the chamber meta is the reason why yay flourished so hard in 2022 but even putting that aside, he's still a solid player.Its just that his teammates cant set him up for fights or smth like optic did

how many trophies va-china have?

poor guy has been stuck with shitty ass teammates for 1.5 years now its like he lost his family ever since gambit disbanded😭😭

thats this year...And LOUD are underperforming rn so yeah.Last year their duelist was clear mvp

their util usage is complete ass bro most of the time yays pushing out taking fights relying on his raw aim probably why he underperformed today

IMO with the kind of calm aim yay has, i think he'd be much more fit for a sentinel role than a raze

He should've joined NRG, at least he wouldve had much better teammates to play with.But hey, I'm not him so let the man do what he wants

valorant community is filled with a bunch of kids and man-children who only know how to throw hate at people for no reason.

you're just so fucking better man

will was fine but derrek , and even asuna were extremely inconsistent last year and anyway we got an upgrade to will by getting cryo. Poor bang was the only one who was putting out bangers

you also have to take into account our shitty roster back then which had frauds like derrek , will and stellar.Compared to that this roster has so much more potential.Still we made it to champs somehow

100T has always been suffering a coaching staff problem.Like our coaching staff last year was absolute dogwater even after using timeouts, they dont change up their playstyle a bit, and even the timing of their timeouts.....It has always been this way ever since sgares left.We'd be much better than we are if we still had him.....

honestly yeah jawg would be a BIG game changer for our team but i doubt he's willing to leave EG but then again he'd be reunited with his old teammates so the incentives are definitely there

Imo the only one who needs replacing is asuna.Im willing to bet there are flex-duelist players in T2, that are probably more consistent fraggers than asuna.Hell maybe even get an import from emea but yk what happened with NRG... The rest of the 100T squad looks solid, and if the coaching staff is also good then they can get really far

c0m def dont deserve better with how much aspas is carrying his ass rn lol

TH already knew the team they were playing very well while NAVI was pretty much playing a new team.Its like what happened with sentinels when they got beat by geng and then beat them again in the gf. In a double elim format i doubt TH would be qualifying

i never called it an upset, my point still stands tho emea is still competitive asf

I havent seen RRQ enough although i wont be counting them out.I was still impressed by their performance against geng tho

Forgot to mention EMEA, imo they look more competitive than ever with TH and KC dropping games now, and liquid almost beating NAVI(Lost due to TMV curse).Even FNC is also struggling to beat these other teams.Now it looks like any team could make shanghai tbh (except BBL, KOI and maybe GM8)

NA LOOKS the most competitive right now although apac isnt that far behind.Now even DFM looking solid with their new coaching staff, even NAs best IGL Puchan knows how good they are while PRX,DRX,T1 And geng all fighting for shanghai spots.(and potentially DFM copium)

You didnt understand my point.EMEA didnt have their better teams show up at madrid. TH and KC bombed out early purely because of inexperience(not because they were a bad team) while a team like NAVI would've made top 3 given their insane chemistry. SEN's biggest advantage is that they already have players who have been through it all. They got 2 major winners(Sacy and tenz) and even zekken whose been to int events before. Before commenting on anything i suggest you to stop using one tournament , that too a fucking kickoff tournament as a metric to how shit or good a region is....

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kickoff tournaments dont meaan shit tbh, NAVI should've been the one playing in madrid but they were practically playing against a new team which is why a double elim bracket wouldve been better.And FUT had to play both KC and TH but they're undoubtedly much better now.Basically, first time matchups dont mean shit, we saw that in geng vs sen game

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also no way you exposed his stats like that bro😭

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Lev needs to hire a therapist dedicated to just aspas's back ngl

people already started calling him "best player in the world" after one season like they havent seen aspas and jinggg perform all year?Like helloo???

I dont hate sen but never in my life have i seen someone meatride a fucking esports team this much.Like they dont know you lil bro😂😂

lmao im sure you're enjoying the high crime rates over there at brazil, unlike what we have over here🥱

Sen is not optic bro.Ngl with how Pacific is especially PRX and geng I wouldn't be so sure of the sen era rn

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You mean low impact teammates

When you don't have anything to reply with so you have to make fun of nationalities now...What are you, 5??

what? pansy and hypoc arent the only casters in emea you know

Honestly, TL's lotus was really good.But their split was so horrible even on attack side the only reason they got 10 rounds was cause all the navi players had an off day up untill the 2nd half......

bro will make the fastest 10k shit takes